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| PickupArtist wrote: | | i called it, software was gonna make obselete this bullshit nvidia gimmick and all those precious RT SCAMcores gonna be TOTALLY useles |
bullshit or not, these are additional cores that ue5 will not use. Which is a waste of resources
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jun 2021 21:12 Post subject: |
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Seems like the new cards only limit eth and nothing else.
Gg nvidia!
The 3080ti for example, does around 240mhs mining Ergo. As a reference, the 3070 does 170... and that algo is limited on the 3060...
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jun 2021 21:53 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | PickupArtist wrote: | | i called it, software was gonna make obselete this bullshit nvidia gimmick and all those precious RT SCAMcores gonna be TOTALLY useles |
bullshit or not, these are additional cores that ue5 will not use. Which is a waste of resources |
A waste of tech due to Nvidia releasing it far too early. They should have kept working on the tech for a couple of more years instead of deciding to slap them onto the 20x0 series when the tech clearly wasn't in a satisfactory state. Epic have worked quite a while on their Lumen engine and it's producing very good results without the need for specialized hardware like RT cores.
| Quote: | | Lumen is the default global illumination and reflections system in Unreal Engine 5. It renders diffuse interreflection with infinite bounces and indirect specular reflections in large, detailed environments at scales ranging from millimeters to kilometers. |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2021 08:11 Post subject: |
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That's like saying "Hey, stop printing money" ^^
Anyway, this just shows, how far removed from reality corporations like NVIDIA are...
"YES, WE LIMIT THE HASH RATE ON OUR NEW GPU'S"
...but only 1 particular algorithm and nothing else, despite there being several other coins just as or even more profitable to mine with our hardware...
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2021 15:01 Post subject: |
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the fact that u think they dont know that, they know full well, they just know the majority of their customer base is dumb as fuck and would bilieve their little marketing ploy
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Jun 2021 11:52 Post subject: |
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| PickupArtist wrote: | | i called it, software was gonna make obselete this bullshit nvidia gimmick and all those precious RT SCAMcores gonna be TOTALLY useles |
Lumen can still use Hardware Raytracing through DXR which just uses the RT cores on Nvidia GPUs.
They raytrace the edges of the screen and off-screen stuff and use screen space for the rest.
The quality is still not as good as RT on the accumulation
It is when you up the settings, but then it runs just as bad as RT (on software).
Kinda defeating the purpose. Lumen is super heavy on the GPU.
You're not gonna kill the "ray-tracing gimmick' by still partially using raytracing and inferior screen-space reflections for the rest.
That's just a middle ground to improve performance if you don't have dedicated hardware for it.
Ray-tracing isn't going anywhere. Heavy implenetation on the new consoles is only gonna spread this "gimmick".
The only scam here is the lie you tell yourself every morning when you wake up.
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Jun 2021 14:58 Post subject: |
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With Bitcoin going down at this pace, we should start taking a look at 2nd hand market. I got my 1070 practically for free when that happened last time.
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Miners deserve bitcoin will drop to zero, but it won't happen to that extreme, sadly.
"Fuck Denuvo"
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Jun 2021 15:22 Post subject: |
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| X_Dror wrote: | | With Bitcoin going down at this pace, we should start taking a look at 2nd hand market. I got my 1070 practically for free when that happened last time. |
Oh the delusion ^^
Btc and ETH are more stable now than ever.
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Jun 2021 15:34 Post subject: |
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You annoyed?
I hold BTC, and could also use a GPU for gaming.
If you're looking for a GPU at a reasonable price, it would be unwise to not check GPU prices in the secondary markets when the crypto markets fall.
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Jun 2021 17:19 Post subject: |
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Crypto market isn't falling. It quickly spiked in April/ May a day then dropped back to its normal ceiling and has been stable since. Second hand cards are bought off immediately by miners.
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Jun 2021 19:26 Post subject: |
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you mean 50%? 
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Jun 2021 20:03 Post subject: |
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Can we not drift of into crypto in this thread, please. There are enough threads for that.
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Jun 2021 21:47 Post subject: |
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And besides all that, wasn't UE4 used in a fraction of games when compared to UE3 anyway? UE5 will probably go down the same route.
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Jun 2021 06:29 Post subject: |
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Some games starting to get delayd, I am sure the GPU and conesoles shortage has something to do with that...
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Jun 2021 10:03 Post subject: |
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| JackQ wrote: | | Some games starting to get delayd, I am sure the GPU and conesoles shortage has something to do with that... |
Highly doubt that is the case.
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Jun 2021 11:51 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | JackQ wrote: | | Some games starting to get delayd, I am sure the GPU and conesoles shortage has something to do with that... |
Highly doubt that is the case. |
it's a possibility. of course it's also because of corona, just like the last year already. there were no games and if there were games then they were mostly shit, because they couldn't work like before, so everything is getting pushed back.
but for example: sony is releasing gran turismo 7 for ps4 now, even tho it was announced as an ps5 exclusive. there is no other reason then getting more sales. they know exactly why they do that. cause they want those sales and they are not getting even near that right now with just the ps5.
yes it's their best sold console ever (or fastest) but that doesn't matter if a lot of those sold consoles sit in a warehouse or so, because people buy them and then try to resell instead of using them.
imaging buying the newest consoles or graphics cards right now. there is no reason at all, except you want to resell it. im so happy i ditched the 499 euro 3070, because even at that price it wouldn't be worth it for me anymore. i just wanted it because i wanted it and not because i needed it. just got a 40 euro ps3 and replay all the good games from the last 10 years for free. i don't know when i had this much fun on a pc last time.
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Jun 2021 13:17 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | JackQ wrote: | | Some games starting to get delayd, I am sure the GPU and conesoles shortage has something to do with that... |
Highly doubt that is the case. |
In fact that can be one of the reasons. Why bother releasing something, people cannot play ie. wont buy at the release -> all the hype goes down the toilet. I'm sure CD Projekt would be much happier if the game was pushed for a year or something. Yes they sold some copies but in general the release was/still is a disaster.
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Jun 2021 14:05 Post subject: |
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Afaik Microsoft and Sony sourced big batches their main components early on compared to the typical OEM/Intel/NV/AMD model where they have to wait for the foundries to manufacture new designs. Unfortunately even the console makers couldn't foresee the difficulties that would arise and are now suffering from component shortages as well.
Every forecast says things should be back to normal in 2022 unless things go sideways again (ie. some new strain/variant pops up that makes all the vaccines totally useless and infects even more people faster with a more severe outcome).
We'll see. As for UE5 not being used, we'll see about that as well. I believe it will be used when it's ready. It'll be used by higher end developers and since the games takes years to finish we'll see the first full UE5 games around 2023 or so. There's always a time lag from when a game engine is completed to the first game (somewhat big game) that use it is released simply due to the time it takes to develop a game.
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Jun 2021 17:54 Post subject: |
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Nah the virus isn't gonna be the reason, more likely climate related restrictions on carbon emissions until they realize it doesn't work in 2030.
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, heard they going for 300 eur these times lol , a 580 for 400
