Why does it need to be better than MCU? Who the fuck cares? I liked MCU and after a rewatch, I like BvS Extended and the Snyders JL. But to say that JL just made me care about the characters just as much as MCU did is wrong. I don't care much about any of the DCEU characters tbh but the plotline just got alot better and more fleshed out than it was before. I want to know how it continues. So I care about the story. But the characters are all still pretty dull imo. Many of the character dialogues in JL felt very tacked on without emotional investement. The emotions stem from the soundtrack and the camera mostly.
Seriously, the worst thing about the DCEU is its characters. Flash, Cyborg and Aquaman are not really that interesting, there is no interaction between them worthy of note. Not "Stark went through a period of depression and alcoholism vs. virtue Captain America plotiline" interesting. For Batman vs. Superman it took just the fucking name of their mother to break their rivalry. Stark vs. CA took all the movies. And it made me care about both characters.
I think its best to just enjoy the movies as they are but MCU did the build-up better. Its only with Extended and Director cuts that the DCEU finally finds a plot worthy of my attention. The characters, not so much.
And bottom line: Its all popcorn flicks and many of these movies are ok for what they are and quite entertaining, but thats all.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
Bruh movie just came out.
And it did better than expected.
Studio execs don't come here to see if we like it to greenlight a subpar franchise (in terms of box office numbers, not quality). You can defend it, but come one people are allowed to have differing opinions.
Thanos was created after Darkseid in comics.
Darkseid converts planets into his own legions to be the only thing in the multiverse. He's also searching for the ultimate weapon to make it easier.
Thats his back story. As simple as it was explained in the movie. Thats it. Hes a child who wants things. And I think the movie did well enough to show that he's a bad guy. Steppenwolf was the main antagonist of the movie just like the new York attack in avengers. It hinted on thanos.and even then his plot was get some rings and destroy shit to save shit. Unlike in the comics where he did it to seduce death.
Jl 2 would have been age of Ultron type shit hitting in 2018 and jl3 would have been infinity war/endgame in 2019 had zsjl came out in 2017 and they let him continue. Simples. They didn't. They lost years.
Not sure theyll let him continue as they kinda also trashed the actors, and fucked over ray fisher. Studio has a lot of thinking to do. If they want to continue and try to get back into the good will of zack daddy. He loves the characters and his crew and would do it for them, but he's not a big fan of the studio. You don't forget when the studio fucked you over when your daughter died.
You are exaggerating, again. It's not even the same thing and he needed 4 hours, so it wasn't exactly one movie either.
you are hating, again. its exactly the same thing. 1 movie is 1 movie dosent matter what runtime it has. titanic is 3h30, is that not 1 movie?
Oh, there we go, the hate stereotype because you got nothing to say. You and Sin would make a good couple. It's obvious you didn't figure it out by now that this wouldn't have been Snyder's theatrical cut.
You are exaggerating, again. It's not even the same thing and he needed 4 hours, so it wasn't exactly one movie either.
you are hating, again. its exactly the same thing. 1 movie is 1 movie dosent matter what runtime it has. titanic is 3h30, is that not 1 movie?
Oh, there we go, the hate stereotype because you got nothing to say. You and Sin would make a good couple. It's obvious you didn't figure it out by now that this wouldn't have been Snyder's theatrical cut.
Had wb not rushed to make bank at theaters before being bought, and didn't enforce a 2hr mandate to achieve the most possible daily screen showings, this would have been a theatrical. Things changed once big heads swapped and they needed money to survive. Its all about profits. He cut it down to 3.5 hrs, cutting out a bunch of exposition for sequels. And had it made bank then, then they'd allow him to add the previously cut exposition in the sequels, possibly giving him cart Blanche for runtime. But with how they treated him during a crisis, it will take a lot to get him back. A possible cyborg movie. Zack daddy would deffo leverage his own career to push someone else's.
To them A 4hr movie wouldn't make as much monies as a 2hr movie. Which then proved to be wrong with titanic, and endgame it was a bad call to cut it to 2hrs, and they realized it then and are realizing it now that there is an audience. But also disney built an audience over 10 years and 20+ movies. Disney also has unlimited monies and can risk less screening time and still make bank. Wb did not
Thanos was created after Darkseid in comics.
Darkseid converts planets into his own legions to be the only thing in the multiverse. He's also searching for the ultimate weapon to make it easier.
Thats his back story. As simple as it was explained in the movie. Thats it. Hes a child who wants things. And I think the movie did well enough to show that he's a bad guy.
It's as I thought it seems, evil just to be evil. What a shame. Thanos was done much better, but we'll see (if a sequel ever is made).
Well before he was evil to be evil until his ass got merc'd by gods now he has revenge on his mind and super weapon.
He went from a spoilt brat to get what he wants to a spoilt brat to get what he wants because he failed.
Thanos whole plot was get stones to restore balance.
Darkseid get anti life to get power. So like galactus.
Who's all eat planets to be powerful.
Theyre comic book characters bruh. Nothing deep.
Thanos storyline in comics was better and more fleshed out. In the movies his henchmen were more menacing without the stones. Thanos was just a purple hulk.
I was the 2nd viewer when it came out. I got bragging rights!!! they gushed over it tooooo much and missed some plot points, and snyder cut fandom stories. But overall not that bad of a review. But when you wanna throw in bits from the snyder cut lore like nolan and Debbie were like don't watch that shit, also add that all he had with him when he left after his daughter died was a b/w 4:3 cut of the movie with him that he occasionally toyed with for the past 3 years. Thats all he looked at, that's all he dealt with after the loss of his daughter and thats why its in this format + imax. So b/w isn't a pompous naraccistic idea. It has an emotional tie to him.
You are exaggerating, again. It's not even the same thing and he needed 4 hours, so it wasn't exactly one movie either.
you are hating, again. its exactly the same thing. 1 movie is 1 movie dosent matter what runtime it has. titanic is 3h30, is that not 1 movie?
Oh, there we go, the hate stereotype because you got nothing to say. You and Sin would make a good couple. It's obvious you didn't figure it out by now that this wouldn't have been Snyder's theatrical cut.
oh noe, its the hater again, i never saw you post a positive comment in any thread. not only this, you dont even read what people even said hence you are not even interested in the subject. and for your information i already said that this was not the version it was supposed to come out in theatres.
its always the problem with snyder movies, you cant do this you cant do that, but its ok for other movies to have it.
WaldoJ wrote:
So b/w isn't a pompous naraccistic idea. It has an emotional tie to him.
yeah who cares about snyder and his pompous narcissistic b/w and 4:3 ratio, all plebs see and be like hack zzzzznyder
I watched it on my ipad so the 4:3 ratio actually came in handy.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
you are hating, again. its exactly the same thing. 1 movie is 1 movie dosent matter what runtime it has. titanic is 3h30, is that not 1 movie?
Oh, there we go, the hate stereotype because you got nothing to say. You and Sin would make a good couple. It's obvious you didn't figure it out by now that this wouldn't have been Snyder's theatrical cut.
oh noe, its the hater again, i never saw you post a positive comment in any thread. not only this, you dont even read what people even said hence you are not even interested in the subject. and for your information i already said that this was not the version it was supposed to come out in theatres.
its always the problem with snyder movies, you cant do this you cant do that, but its ok for other movies to have it.
WaldoJ wrote:
So b/w isn't a pompous naraccistic idea. It has an emotional tie to him.
yeah who cares about snyder and his pompous narcissistic b/w and 4:3 ratio, all plebs see and be like hack zzzzznyder
wb shuts down restore the snyderverse and ayer cut.
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only hbo max cand save this
Interview talking points are just that talking points.
Wb has nothing to do with zsjl or snyderverse anymore. They have no say in the matter. Lol. In 2 weeks we should know the future of snyderverse. Other than that any interview provided by studio head or any exec other than snyder/kilar is just pr because they themselves have no idea whats going to happen or whats in play.
Reactions have been above and beyond.
Reviews have been above and beyond compared to previous snyder movies/dceu movies.
The impossible 4hrs in theaters after 3.5 of endgame yah. Its all talking points to cover their asses.
In due time we will know whats what. You also have to realize zackdaddy has 2 projects greenlit. We may not see anything from snyderverse until 2023.
Also jeez calm down. People are allowed their opinions. Unless they cite snyders racism, sexism, etc then they're not haters. They have valid opinions. You're the kind of fella snyder distances himself from for all the negativity you spew. He'd publicly denounce you on a stream. Be better.
wtf are you talking about, how is 4h not 1 movie, what valid opinion is this? everything is an opinion these days, it has lost its meaning a long time ago
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Your attitude is straight up attacking anyone who has a valid opinion. Defending a movie director and a movie that sees you as a consumer. Not as a friend. Relax.
Breathe. And instead of calling people haters and shit, see their point for what it is and either have something to add, or just ignore it.
Point is, it could have easily been two movies, 3 months apart of 4 months apart in release schedules. Or as it was structured with chapters a tv series. If wb didn't want a 4hr cut in theatres they could have ended movie one when snyder himself put in a break for theatrical.
Liked it. Never seen the "other one" and probably never will, so no bias there.
Watched it in 3 sittings lol. The plot itself is a bit "meh", but I don't expect much from "Popcorn Action flicks", so I am fine with that. Not everything has to be deep AF, lol.
Could easily have been 2 movies, the first ending when Steppenwolf got away with the box or something like that, but I guess that would have been even more like Avenger's Infinity and End Game ^^.
when steppenwolf gets the last mother box that is not an ending to a movie, thats exactly the middle chapter plotpoint of a movie. zsjl ends like avengers 2, with zsjl 2 and 3 be infinity war and endgame
WaldoJ wrote:
Your attitude is straight up attacking anyone who has a valid opinion. Defending a movie director and a movie that sees you as a consumer. Not as a friend. Relax.
Breathe. And instead of calling people haters and shit, see their point for what it is and either have something to add, or just ignore it.
Point is, it could have easily been two movies, 3 months apart of 4 months apart in release schedules. Or as it was structured with chapters a tv series. If wb didn't want a 4hr cut in theatres they could have ended movie one when snyder himself put in a break for theatrical.
Like... calm down.
yeah, it COULD, but it isnt, its 1 movie. is titanic not 1 movie? is the hateful eight not 1 movie? there is also a miniseries now, but its structured like a miniseries, even though the movie works like a series too, its 1 movie.
nah bruh, when there is valid opinions there is something to have conversations about
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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Also, what was Steppenwolf's big bad thing that he was being punished for? Can't remember nothing hinted at besides some implication that he got too greedy/ahead of himself. FFS zZZzzZZznyder, he's your final boss character for this huge ass movie, explain some shit a little better!
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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
Wow, Leto is not salvageable as the Joker no matter the director or design I guess. I quit the film moments after he appeared in disgust, I will have watch the epilogue tomorrow.
Anyway, the second half of the film was worse than the first, but it had some alright action so not bad.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
Wow, Leto is not salvageable as the Joker no matter the director or design I guess. I quit the film moments after he appeared in disgust, I will have watch the epilogue tomorrow.
Anyway, the second half of the film was worse than the first, but it had some alright action so not bad.
Letos joker would be fine had it been longer.
He was nice and creepy. But it was a throwaway.
A whole movie with this joker along with batman and such would work as a horror movie. Shame we won't get it.
That explains everything. Nephews always punish their uncles. Its common knowledge, duh.
Darkseid wanted complete rule.
Steppy was like hell nah you a babby.
Darkseid was all im a strong babby!
Steppy was like imma spank you!
Darkseid was all hell nah you horned faggit and beat his ass. Spared his life and banished him from home. Only can go back if he claims planets in name of Darkseid.
Its spoken in passing in the movie.
If you're familiar with the comics and such, then the passing words and shit make sense. If you're not then you just know that steppy did a bad thing and got banished for it.
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It's obvious you didn't figure it out by now that this wouldn't have been Snyder's theatrical cut.
they gushed over it tooooo much and missed some plot points, and snyder cut fandom stories. But overall not that bad of a review. But when you wanna throw in bits from the snyder cut lore like nolan and Debbie were like don't watch that shit, also add that all he had with him when he left after his daughter died was a b/w 4:3 cut of the movie with him that he occasionally toyed with for the past 3 years. Thats all he looked at, that's all he dealt with after the loss of his daughter and thats why its in this format + imax. So b/w isn't a pompous naraccistic idea. It has an emotional tie to him.
