What I personally loved was that they went with the look he had in the Jedi Knight games, when he was training people at his academy. Maybe we'll have that reintroduced into the canon?
I would have also preferred if they looked for a new actor to play him. As much as I love Mark, a younger actor that could carry the torch would have allowed them to do the above very easily and center one of their many shows around that instead of much more boring concepts.
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What I personally loved was that they went with the look he had in the Jedi Knight games, when he was training people at his academy. Maybe we'll have that reintroduced into the canon?
He was straight out of RotJ, with the robe + i love the green lightsaber
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To me this forced need to always think outside the box is what kills some new shows for me (JJTrek, JJWars, STD, Picard etc.). Sometimes sticking to old clichés and doing what just works isn't so bad. Star Wars never was particularly deep or outside the box. And neither is the Mandalorian. The character is totally OP, the story predictable without twists and the good/bad clichés are typical. But it still works, because its just well done.
Having this particular Jedi in the finale was what made it worth a finale since it was the only possible upgrade to having already had another Jedi before. The way he completely overpowered the enemy could only have been done by someone exceptionally skilled.
But I understand thats not what all people like.
Yeah, feel the same. I don't think the show has anything original, every little thing is some reference to existing lore, but I don't mind. For now, at least, we'll see for later seasons. After the prequels/sequels and spin-offs, everyone was craving for classic Star Wars, without fart jokes and SJW/politics, and The Mandalorian delivered.
R2D2 was a bit too much, but it was worth it. Especially since we didn't get much R2D2 in the sequels anyway. But seeing a young Luke (looked like he just left Jabba's palace, or was on his way to it ) fighting at full power, with 'modern, fast lightsaber combat' (compared to the slower fights in the OT), was just fucking awesome.
Lightyears away from this:
Spoiler:
Too bad it wasn't actually Mark Hamill, but let's face it, he looks to old for the part now.
I don't think having another actor would have worked, for this scene at least. He has a very iconic face. Perhaps they'll go with a look alike for next season (if he'll reappear anyway)
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
To me this forced need to always think outside the box is what kills some new shows for me (JJTrek, JJWars, STD, Picard etc.). Sometimes sticking to old clichés and doing what just works isn't so bad. Star Wars never was particularly deep or outside the box. And neither is the Mandalorian. The character is totally OP, the story predictable without twists and the good/bad clichés are typical. But it still works, because its just well done.
Having this particular Jedi in the finale was what made it worth a finale since it was the only possible upgrade to having already had another Jedi before. The way he completely overpowered the enemy could only have been done by someone exceptionally skilled.
But I understand thats not what all people like.
Yeah, feel the same. I don't think the show has anything original, every little thing is some reference to existing lore, but I don't mind. For now, at least, we'll see for later seasons. After the prequels/sequels and spin-offs, everyone was craving for classic Star Wars, without fart jokes and SJW/politics, and The Mandalorian delivered.
R2D2 was a bit too much, but it was worth it. Especially since we didn't get much R2D2 in the sequels anyway. But seeing a young Luke (looked like he just left Jabba's palace, or was on his way to it ) fighting at full power, with 'modern, fast lightsaber combat' (compared to the slower fights in the OT), was just fucking awesome.
Lightyears away from this:
Spoiler:
Too bad it wasn't actually Mark Hamill, but let's face it, he looks to old for the part now.
I don't think having another actor would have worked, for this scene at least. He has a very iconic face. Perhaps they'll go with a look alike for next season (if he'll reappear anyway)
At least he did the voice, the age difference would be too much to CGI away I guess
What I personally loved was that they went with the look he had in the Jedi Knight games, when he was training people at his academy. Maybe we'll have that reintroduced into the canon?
That's actually what I was expecting to be part of Episode VII+, not the shit fest we actually got. JJ and Rian truly fucked up the story and the lore. Rey in her first light saber duel ever against a highly skilled Sith Apprentice and outclassing him while also being able to use the force without any kind of training whatsoever? Bleh.
I thoroughly enjoyed the finale. It gave me everything I could want and then some. I don't want some edgy YA show, I want something that feels Star Warsy and The Mandalorian is the best live action show (whether on stream or in cinema) since the original trilogy even though it's just a side story.
Its not anymore just a side story.
That's the thing. It started as a side story which was nice.
Different, but held its own in the lore and star wars universe. But in the end its always about luke, Leila, han solo, chewie, r2d2, obi wan.
Its great if you love star wars trilogy et al. But Hamill is old. He can die any day now. Mandolorian distanced itself from the family drama of the trilogies. And now its in it. I would have preferred having somebody else, open up the universe like mandolorian did. Instead they went for glorious fan service.
No it doesn't. It needs to diversify and stray away from the ridiculous family drama that lasted 3 trilogies.
New jedi, New adventures not linked to the trilogies.
There are bitches on other planets that don't know Luke Skywalker but know some other jedi master.
Like... we don't need more luke. Or any characters from og trilogies. They can bridge a gap in other stories, but not to be heavily included. It just makes it hang onto a whim to draw in audiences. Mandolorian drew audiences cause it was different. Unique. Simple. Didn't need to link itself with the trilogies. Anyone who says otherwise holds onto the trilogies as gold and cannot fathom star wars stories outside of the trilogies. There is sooo much potential and yet... hey look its luke.
No it doesn't. It needs to diversify and stray away from the ridiculous family drama that lasted 3 trilogies.
New jedi, New adventures not linked to the trilogies.
There are bitches on other planets that don't know Luke Skywalker but know some other jedi master.
Like... we don't need more luke. Or any characters from og trilogies. They can bridge a gap in other stories, but not to be heavily included. It just makes it hang onto a whim to draw in audiences. Mandolorian drew audiences cause it was different. Unique. Simple. Didn't need to link itself with the trilogies. Anyone who says otherwise holds onto the trilogies as gold and cannot fathom star wars stories outside of the trilogies. There is sooo much potential and yet... hey look its luke.
But isn't that literally the only thing that draws a sizable portion of the audience? Waxing nostalgia and internal warm and fuzzies feeling that they are enough of a fan to 'get' the references to the source material?
Its a 'thing' Disney does in movies. (not just them but they are bad about it):
Make some movie that is a string of a timeline, throw in references and cameo's to other characters so the audience goes "WHOOO! thats so and so! from so and so! I feel so engaged and marvel at the depth this movie has in connection to its other material in this timeline. This is a heavily tied tangent to that thing I already love".
Disney isn't known for risking brand new canon in an establish audience base. Their whole cooperate business model is marketing old nostalgia in new wrapping paper. I mean it has a baby yoda (like) thing..it could be ANY baby of any race, but why risk that, sell nostalgia for a cute old endeared thing, by wrapping it in a cute young skin.
Disney knows it works, they know when to do it to make it work, and it makes people feel less "I need to learn whole new lore, I 'get' the old lore I knew and loved in this one. Less new stuff to remember".
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Mandoloriqn drew in its own audience as well as og fans audience. It made its own footing on the star wars franchise. Little fan service shit here or there are ok, but going full on out with this... is just poor planning. They announced so many star wars shows and it was a hopeful announcement. Now I'm thinking, oooo is chewie gonna show up in this show? Lando? Maybe they're gonna get that guy from original trilogies to do a voice over or something.
I understand why something like rogue one needed Vader in it. To get people excited for star wars in a star wars movie. As if they weren't excited throughout. Same here. It's silly fan service. There were so many book written, and shit that expanded the universe. Then they canned it all and now its all connected to family drama.
Yet again the deepfakers does a better job than the studio.
+1 This is just amazing. They should edit the episode officially with this
Frant wrote:
It will be a looong wait for the next season.
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Will there be a Mandalorian Season 3?
The good news is that there will be no shortage of Star Wars content going forward, with a number of spin-offs coming in 2021. The slightly bad news is that The Mandalorian Season Three will return slightly later than normal, with Disney confirming that the release date is Christmas 2021.
12 months wait.
That's actually a short time to wait by today's standards
Mandoloriqn drew in its own audience as well as og fans audience. It made its own footing on the star wars franchise. Little fan service shit here or there are ok, but going full on out with this... is just poor planning. They announced so many star wars shows and it was a hopeful announcement. Now I'm thinking, oooo is chewie gonna show up in this show? Lando? Maybe they're gonna get that guy from original trilogies to do a voice over or something.
I understand why something like rogue one needed Vader in it. To get people excited for star wars in a star wars movie. As if they weren't excited throughout. Same here. It's silly fan service. There were so many book written, and shit that expanded the universe. Then they canned it all and now its all connected to family drama.
Such big galaxy, only 6 key people in it. Lol.
I completely agree!
But Disney is going to..Disney, unfortunately. They are all about reinforcing old nostalgia in a new dress for established characters as how they always have, and always will operate. And not so much creating whole new not related nostalgia hooks based in current well established 'grandfathered' franchises.
Take something familiar and remarket it in a new angle, framed in what made them love it start with. To me at least, the baby yoda is that in a nutshell: "What alien race is people most attached to? Ewoks...hmm maybe but too generic and not everyone liked them, we need a particular one that everyone universally liked. Yoda! Yea..that could work, make him young and mcguffin him up for the laughs so its a new 'twist' on an old beloved friend. The toy/cups/shirts/etc sales will be through the roof".
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Something I can't wrap my head around, if Disney is so focused on the original cast why did the kill them off? It doesn't make sense how do you move forward if that is your plan? They said numerous times in the 7 and 8 to move forward you need to kill the past which is exactly what they did.
His "cameo" was almost a gimmie, maybe episode 10 will feature the child as a true jedi master??
I thought overall the first two seasons did a good job existing in the universe without mixing over into the main stream story line until the last few minutes.
Yet again the deepfakers does a better job than the studio.
+1 This is just amazing. They should edit the episode officially with this
Frant wrote:
It will be a looong wait for the next season.
Quote:
Will there be a Mandalorian Season 3?
The good news is that there will be no shortage of Star Wars content going forward, with a number of spin-offs coming in 2021. The slightly bad news is that The Mandalorian Season Three will return slightly later than normal, with Disney confirming that the release date is Christmas 2021.
12 months wait.
That's actually a short time to wait by today's standards
We had the deep fake talk. They hired wrong people in the studio and were ok with what they paid for.
Also mando3 got confirmed, but don't expect 2021 Xmas. That's book of Bobba. We still don't know if pedro will be back.
Fucking cringe lol.
Couldn't have gotten anybody else?!
Like there are no other Jedi at all anywhere?!
Had to tie it in to that?! Lol.
Was a nice episode. Everything tied up nicely.
Did not like the fan service.
+1 it was awful, then i would have prefer it just not be star wars at all because it doesn't need to be. I reckon Disney gave the series creators more creative freedom with this not expecting it be successful, now they have a hit but don't know why (likely forced this bs finale in here as well, it doesn't even make sense given its a prequel). Now they are making 10 more StArWaRs TV shows
The major problem for me was the total unnecessity of it. In such a big universe, do we really need the same old characters introduced into everything? I find this a simple yet entertaining show, it was doing its own thing. It's SW though, the whole little Yoda thing was a gimmick. As was the end, a gimmick.
Pedro will return, already confirmed few days ago.
Show got confirmed by Favreau. But he never mentioned Pedro when doing interview. There was drama and as you can see book of bobba is taking mando s03 space for rls next year.
Hopefuly Pedro will be back. He walks and talks like timmothee elephant in justafied.
Pedro will return, already confirmed few days ago.
Show got confirmed by Favreau. But he never mentioned Pedro when doing interview. There was drama and as you can see book of bobba is taking mando s03 space for rls next year.
Hopefuly Pedro will be back. He walks and talks like timmothee elephant in justafied.
His stunt double confirmed it at least. "Yes!! Pedro is coming back and awesome . There was never any question. DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ."
Yes, but no mention of Pedro.
Talked about the characters but not the actor.
So we will see. I do hope Pedro returns. But with the gossip of the drama, and book of bobba taking place of s03. Pedro may be in trouble. They could have done book of bobba and mando side by side. Stack the weeks.
Its up in the air.
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WaldoJ wrote:
Areius wrote:
Pedro will return, already confirmed few days ago.
Show got confirmed by Favreau. But he never mentioned Pedro when doing interview. There was drama and as you can see book of bobba is taking mando s03 space for rls next year.
Hopefuly Pedro will be back. He walks and talks like timmothee elephant in justafied.
His stunt double confirmed it at least. "Yes!! Pedro is coming back and awesome . There was never any question. DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ."
I believe sources that haven't been wrong yet about Disney productions and dceu productions.
Also stunt double isn't privvy to negotiations behind closed doors. Mando will always return and stunt double will always have work for that show. Voice actor and main actor may not. You gotta understand this.
Yes, but no mention of Pedro.
Talked about the characters but not the actor.
So we will see. I do hope Pedro returns. But with the gossip of the drama, and book of bobba taking place of s03. Pedro may be in trouble. They could have done book of bobba and mando side by side. Stack the weeks.
Its up in the air.
Areius wrote:
WaldoJ wrote:
Show got confirmed by Favreau. But he never mentioned Pedro when doing interview. There was drama and as you can see book of bobba is taking mando s03 space for rls next year.
Hopefuly Pedro will be back. He walks and talks like timmothee elephant in justafied.
His stunt double confirmed it at least. "Yes!! Pedro is coming back and awesome . There was never any question. DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ."
I believe sources that haven't been wrong yet about Disney productions and dceu productions.
Also stunt double isn't privvy to negotiations behind closed doors. Mando will always return and stunt double will always have work for that show. Voice actor and main actor may not. You gotta understand this.
The whole thing about Luke was fan service but as such it was very successful whether the cynics hated it or not. I had no issues with it and thought it was cool to see Luke in his prime kicking ass (and I interpreted it as a "forgive us" from Disney after fucking him royally in the new trilogy) although I didn't get particularly emotional about it like so many others; just check youtube reactions to the episode and you'll see Star Wars fans going completely nuts, getting extremely emotional and even crying from happiness.
Anyway, we now know how most of us feel about the season finale whether positive or negative so please let's move on from that.
The Mandalorian S3 HAS been confirmed and will not be replaced by the new Boba Fett show (which is a separate spin-off).
Jon Favreau:
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“This is actually separate from The Mandalorian Season 3,” Favreau continued. The Book of Boba Fett is currently filming, as we had reported earlier, “and then we go into production after that with Season 3 of The Mandalorian, with the main character that we all have known and loved (played by Pedro Pascal).” 1 day ago
In other words, they're already filming The Book of Boba Fett and will film The Mandalorian S3 right after (The Mandalorian S3 is already in the pre-production phase). I believe the long waiting time is because of the other spin-off show with Ahsoka as well as the other shows they announced previously.
If they can keep up the quality to the same standards as The Mandalorian as far as canon, quality of the production and giving us at least some of that classic Star Wars vibe I'm good.
Now I have to download Clone Wars and Rebels to give it another go (I think I watched the first three seasons of Clone Wars but lost interest due to getting totally engrossed in anime).
So live and let live.
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Ya i think ill move on, show was good until that finale, I can't stand "fan service" / lack of originality to appease "its character i recognize!!" derpa. I have no idea who this appeals to because children couldn't give a fuck about a young a Mark Hammil, oh well.
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) fighting at full power, with 'modern, fast lightsaber combat' (compared to the slower fights in the OT), was just fucking awesome.
