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Frant
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@Frant that would be idiotic business tactics, but I'm not a business man obviously. Producing like crazy and selling all the product to the crazy consumers would be much more profitable I think. I think they just wanted to really get the end year release, AMD did the same.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 12:16 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | @Frant that would be idiotic business tactics, but I'm not a business man obviously. Producing like crazy and selling all the product to the crazy consumers would be much more profitable I think. I think they just wanted to really get the end year release, AMD did the same. |
im not into conspiracy theories and i really think it's mostly because of covid.
but if it's what you guys think, then they could sell the new cards for a higher price while at the same time get rid of the old ones which otherwise no one with a right mind would buy.
i have multiple shops on my watch and the 20xx cards sell just fine right now, some shops even sold them out.
if my 970 would die now, i rather would stay on my onboard intel, or buy a used card for 20 euros (if i would have amd and no onboard), but not getting scammed with an old 20xx card, not because they are bad, but because they are not priced right anymore, prices have changed with the new cards, but not for the shops. and of course if they don't sell those 30xx cards for the msrp (with maybe 10-30 euros on top) i will also not get those.
it's not like it's medicine and i NEED it or otherwise i will die. why are people so stupid man. of course i want a new card but i won't let me get scammed and feel like an idiot the next 5 years while using it.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 12:31 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 13:53 Post subject: |
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today a german retailler had the zotac 3070 for 570€ in stock, that's the best i could find so far -- immediatly sold out
so i guess/hope(?) the situation is going to improve over the next weeks (...or it gets much worse when everybody wants to secure a GPU for the christmas lockdown)
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 14:14 Post subject: |
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AMD is too nice compared to Nvidia with their proprietary stuff. I guess they sacrifice an advantage in order to improve support on Intel platforms.
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 14:17 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | @Frant that would be idiotic business tactics, but I'm not a business man obviously. Producing like crazy and selling all the product to the crazy consumers would be much more profitable I think. I think they just wanted to really get the end year release, AMD did the same. |
That's obviously part of it; rushing for holiday sales. However, the marketing psychology of creating a massive demand at start as well as getting the extra PR for their GPU's constantly being out of stock as soon as they come in (ie. putting the idea that the cards are so good that they can't produce enough of them) does have some merit to it methinks. But I'm just ranting, I have no proof or insight, just a simple hypothesis.
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jackbomb
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 17:22 Post subject: |
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One year old 2070 Super (Gigabyte) for 350€. Yay or Nay?
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 17:43 Post subject: |
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I've seen 3080's going for that price. I'd wait a while if you can, let this clusterfuck settle down and the second hand prices will come down once the new cards are more readily available.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 17:51 Post subject: |
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350 euros for a 2070 super is a good price. Don't expect it to be cheaper in the coming 6 months.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 17:53 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | 350 euros for a 2070 super is a good price. Don't expect it to be cheaper in the coming 6 months. |
Secondhand market is tits up around my place. People ask about 400€ for a 2060 Super...
Thanks, will meditate.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 22:33 Post subject: |
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Ain't gonna settle down till middle of 2021, if ever. Any new product is immediately bought up by bot scalpers on release, so most have no chance. I blame eBay, as they will not stop people from selling that stuff at nonsense prices, as their cut is just too much to pass by.
You can get most cards now if you are willing to pull out the stops and 'F5' it all day, and maybe pay over the odds, but it's not worth the time or effort, let alone, the extra dosh.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 23:02 Post subject: |
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I blame stupid people, as they will not stop buying stuff at nonsense prices.
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 23:06 Post subject: |
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In this case patience is a virtue. Stick with your current hardware (unless it died on you) until the stocks have stabilized.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 23:31 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 01:19 Post subject: |
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Save for the durrs that really don't need an upgrade, but must buy that shiny new GPU to brag NOW, for the many people that have been holding out for a while to upgrade and the ones whose card died it's a shame to have to endure with the current bullshit.
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| Posted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 10:29 Post subject: |
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@JackQ Did you order or waiting for more stock?
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 10:32 Post subject: |
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I am not getting it yet, I decided to get PC around Q1 2021.
So I am waiting to see what intel has to offer on terms of CPUs and then making final decisions.
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| Posted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 11:07 Post subject: |
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Better to wait for 2021, for new 7nm process Ampere cards.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 17:48 Post subject: |
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@Nec Which store did you order from? Wellcom?
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Nec
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| Posted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 17:54 Post subject: |
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Nah, didn't buy. Ordered it from one of our suppliers at work. Morlevi, if you're familiar.
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Nec
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| Posted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 19:25 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | What are the prices? |
Around 3k before tax. Cheaper than the stores, obviously.
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I hope this makes the 3070 perfrom better than the 6800.
Store keeps informing how high the queues are and how many products they get, but what good does that do when they cant tell me what position im in? 
