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Ispep
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 23:26    Post subject:
SWAT 3 was the best of the series. I bought it when it came out and never experienced any bugs that I recall ruining my experience - in fact I'm not even sure what bugs your going on about.

It's understandable that a newer game might do some things better than an older game but what is unforgivable in my opinon is to take backwards steps elsewhere in favour of the more commerical improvements.

The AI and gameplay was superior in the original SWAT 3. It felt more like SWAT than on-the-rails shooter like everything else. SWAT 4 is a great game, and hasn't fallen foul of the Rainbow Six et al disease but it still got assimilated into the formulaic trends of today.
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The Rat
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2006 03:45    Post subject:
The bad bugs were introduced with the final patch of Swat 3. VUG left Swat 3 with a few annoying bugs and this seems to be a habit with them.

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You attack other people constantly for not loving blacks or asians or whatever. YOU are the most hateful of us all, you sit there and preach hate toward people who dont like diversity
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jagger




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2006 22:59    Post subject:
SWAT4 VIP MP is amazing, very good team gameplay even on public servers and a lot of fun.
Better than most of the other fps stuff that is released in these days...
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The Rat
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Feb 2006 13:23    Post subject:
As I said, TDM and DM players are happy with the game but serious coop players are totally bored with it.

kirkblitz wrote:
You attack other people constantly for not loving blacks or asians or whatever. YOU are the most hateful of us all, you sit there and preach hate toward people who dont like diversity
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Azazell




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Feb 2006 13:24    Post subject:
jagger wrote:
SWAT4 VIP MP is amazing, very good team gameplay even on public servers and a lot of fun.
Better than most of the other fps stuff that is released in these days...

yeah i love it !!
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Feb 2006 23:58    Post subject:
I couldn't care less about the MP aspect of SWAT 4.

As a single player game it was fairly good; however the overemphasis on non-lethal weapons gets irritating very fast. I especially didn't like that the optimal way to play the game was with a full loadout of paintball guns and tasers, because even on the levels where suspects come with body armor and gas masks you can still take them down easily with a bunch of pepper balls. You never have to worry about an unauthorized use of deadly force penalty either.

Despite the warning that flashbangs and stingers could injure or kill at close range, I never once had it happen. The same was true with the "less lethal" shotgun. Completing the missions on the highest skill level was easy with those weapons, all you had to do was make sure you personally didn't get wounded and no one else on your team died.

All that non-lethal stuff just smacks of politically correct bullshit to make the LAPD happy and get them to keep allowing Sierra to use the SWAT name. The idea that a real SWAT team would ever consider going into a high risk situation with that kind of gear is just laughable.

I found the game much more fun on a second run-through where I didn't use any of that crap. The game played out more like an episode of The Shield than some sort of LAPD propaganda. Very Happy

Hopefully the expansion pack leans more towards that direction too.
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arw




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Feb 2006 01:53    Post subject:
Palegod wrote:
I couldn't care less about the MP aspect of SWAT 4.

As a single player game it was fairly good; however the overemphasis on non-lethal weapons gets irritating very fast. I especially didn't like that the optimal way to play the game was with a full loadout of paintball guns and tasers, because even on the levels where suspects come with body armor and gas masks you can still take them down easily with a bunch of pepper balls. You never have to worry about an unauthorized use of deadly force penalty either.

Despite the warning that flashbangs and stingers could injure or kill at close range, I never once had it happen. The same was true with the "less lethal" shotgun. Completing the missions on the highest skill level was easy with those weapons, all you had to do was make sure you personally didn't get wounded and no one else on your team died.

All that non-lethal stuff just smacks of politically correct bullshit to make the LAPD happy and get them to keep allowing Sierra to use the SWAT name. The idea that a real SWAT team would ever consider going into a high risk situation with that kind of gear is just laughable.

I found the game much more fun on a second run-through where I didn't use any of that crap. The game played out more like an episode of The Shield than some sort of LAPD propaganda. Very Happy

Hopefully the expansion pack leans more towards that direction too.



I agree on all the points made there mate...

On my first run i played on highest skill with all non lethal weapons and i found it pretty boring but i did pass all missions...On my second run i played on normal skill with all lethal weapons and stormed my way through giving one warning to drop there weapons if they didn't comply i took them down...I had plenty of unauthorised kills and point deductions for knee capping hostages when they didn't comply (Couldn't be bothered useing tazer) but it was much more fun.. Very Happy
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Accelleron




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Feb 2006 02:44    Post subject:
The Rat wrote:
Since all you can do is insult instead of posting valid points I recommend you get back to Counter Strike you fanboy of crappy games, lol.


1. Not banned yet?

2. The next McHart?

3. Mchart?

4. ?

5. Profit?
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Selt




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 08:41    Post subject:
german version is out... should not be long till we see the english one
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 09:56    Post subject:
what i hated in S4 that u can collect weapons from suspects to build whole fukin army but only use 2 of yours,not to mention those reports every one of them,also u can leave suspects uncuffed & go away for a while, returning back they still there Laughing
i seriuosly doubt swat works like that
i'd say making realistic game ,make it at least a bit realistic apart from damage Rolling Eyes
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cja200




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 13:28    Post subject:
First of all, in the army you never use a gun you dont know, it could be booby trapped or poorly maintained.

secondly, in this new expansion suspects will pick there weapon back up and run away if you move on without cuffing them.

this expansion is not just extra weapons and maps, its an improvement on the whole game.
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The Rat
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 13:53    Post subject:
cja200 wrote:
this expansion is not just extra weapons and maps, its an improvement on the whole game.


It adds features back into the game that should have already been there in the first place. Swat 3 already had all these "new" features but Swat 4 dumbed it down for the masses.

The expansion pack is nothing more than a "1.2" patch that should have been free.

Having said that I am still waiting for it in eager anticipation. I loved Swat 3 so much that I am happy we are seeing some last minute steps to save Swat 4 (probably too late though).

kirkblitz wrote:
You attack other people constantly for not loving blacks or asians or whatever. YOU are the most hateful of us all, you sit there and preach hate toward people who dont like diversity
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DUSHMAN




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 14:14    Post subject:
did they add "vote admin" option to servers ?
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 14:17    Post subject:
cja200 wrote:
First of all, in the army you never use a gun you dont know, it could be booby trapped or poorly maintained.

secondly, in this new expansion suspects will pick there weapon back up and run away if you move on without cuffing them.

this expansion is not just extra weapons and maps, its an improvement on the whole game.

ok but how about carring all this stuff,for example how much weight 10 mp5 10-12 kilos or more lol & where u gonna put it in your pockets Razz
what booby trappes are u talkin about,guy just shot from his gun,more he can do is put it on safe Very Happy ,u watched too many holly toons
i hope exp will be more realistic,than spraying some guy with 9 9mm & he still standing but they can kill u with one shot in chest throw bp vest,i know,i know they got teflon bullets Laughing
last thing is that recoil for m4a2 is overdone [i used m4a1 & it didn't had that mad recoil,so i assume a2 must have it even less otherwise swat wouldnt use them],only thing i able to use from automs is mp5 with silencer


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The Rat
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 15:30    Post subject:
DUSHMAN wrote:
did they add "vote admin" option to servers ?


They added a vote kick feature.

kirkblitz wrote:
You attack other people constantly for not loving blacks or asians or whatever. YOU are the most hateful of us all, you sit there and preach hate toward people who dont like diversity
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Areius




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 20:16    Post subject:
Swat.4.Stetchkov.Syndicate.GERMAN-SiLENTGATE is out, anyone tried if its ENG as well?

PC: Yes. Console: No.
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luiluilui




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 20:17    Post subject:
FnF wrote:
Swat.4.Stetchkov.Syndicate.GERMAN-SiLENTGATE is out, anyone tried if its ENG as well?

When Silentgate says German is German only
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CaptainCox
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 20:20    Post subject:
Yep just got it, its German allright.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 20:29    Post subject:
CaptainCox wrote:
Yep just got it, its German allright.

how come gerrys getting everything first Confused
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CaptainCox
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 20:31    Post subject:
Actualy have asked that myself, with movies they normaly are very late due to translation, but games...beats me.
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 20:33    Post subject:
so is there a way to install the german addon over the english swat version, besides downloading it again in another language?

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coiken




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 20:34    Post subject:
djeeses, I just bought the game here in belgium... english version (or so it sais) but when I insert the disc I see it's in freakin' italian Evil or Very Mad
Well f*ck you VUgames, I returned the game to the store, wrote down the key first and I'll play with a downloaded version now Mad

BTW: there is no copy protection on it Very Happy
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CaptainCox
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 20:40    Post subject:
deathangel wrote:
so is there a way to install the german addon over the english swat version, besides downloading it again in another language?
Gona try in about 5 min. I am running a Vir scan using Kapersky as Norton did somet in their new update that detects if you are using a fake key Wink. I have the UK version of SWAT 4 and will try with this GER version of "THE STETCHKOV SYNDICATE" right after I am done scanning, will post how it goes.
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coiken




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 20:46    Post subject:
CaptainCox wrote:
deathangel wrote:
so is there a way to install the german addon over the english swat version, besides downloading it again in another language?
Gona try in about 5 min. I am running a Vir scan using Kapersky as Norton did somet in their new update that detects if you are using a fake key Wink. I have the UK version of SWAT 4 and will try with this GER version of "THE STETCHKOV SYNDICATE" right after I am done scanning, will post how it goes.


nice man, thanks... this can be interesting
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CaptainCox
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 20:58    Post subject:
Ok here goes. Load screen takes forever to load (alot of black screen) get in to the menues etc, again takes forever. When starting the mission it hanged so I broke off (alt con del) I think this combo ( GER vs UK) is not the most stable Sad . gona try some more but. could also be the crack they aplied...but actualy it shouldnt work, GER vs UK I mean, so its a long shot anyway. Just as a precaution I am getting the Gerry vers of SWAT 4, I know pain in the bu..but I realy want this baby so...Wink
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 21:05    Post subject:
thanks for trying captaincox!
but i got lucky and the german version just got reupped on a site

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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 21:46    Post subject:
Hmm.. English version perhaps? Not alot of information to go on... Confused

Edit : Never mind.. Not english Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 21:59    Post subject:
deathangel wrote:
thanks for trying captaincox!
but i got lucky and the german version just got reupped on a site

Guess you need the old game to play the expansion...?
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CaptainCox
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 22:06    Post subject:
Ok guys it works! Text is in German but sound is Eng, only wierd thing I found was that one of the civilians was talking in German (maybe a turist Smile ) but I think all the delay and stuff was due to that I was runing Kaspersky in the background Wink, but it does work running the GER vers of THE STETCHKOV SYNDICATE for SHURE!. no change in graphics as such, some new weapons and I guess the gameplay might have been improved, didnt get that far yet, still the 1st mission.
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006 23:03    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Guess you need the old game to play the expansion...?

yea you do

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