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| Posted: Thu, 5th Nov 2020 23:46 Post subject: |
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| PickupArtist wrote: | 75 fps on 1080p ... nobody should be rejoicing about that, rather cry  |
3080 makes 75fps on Quake2 rtx
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Nov 2020 23:50 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | | Glad I bought that 3700X not too long ago |
Meh, I'm in no hurry to update from mine. Patience will be rewarded with Zen 4 and DDR5, unless they can make the XT refreshes more worthwhile than they were with the 3000 series.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 11:01 Post subject: |
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Benches at 360p
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 11:36 Post subject: |
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So, it is the last CPU release for AM4 socket? Seen somewhere that AMD promised in 2016 to stick to AM4 for 5 years.
I wonder if 5600x is a prudent purchase right now, seeing as it has less cores than the new gen consoles.
i7 6700k @ 4.4 GHZ, 2060s, 16 GB RAM, SSD, Windows 10x64.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 12:12 Post subject: |
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during the night I've lost ~50Hz from boost
today the CPU doesn't boost as high as it did yesterday
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 12:15 Post subject: |
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| KGen wrote: | So, it is the last CPU release for AM4 socket? Seen somewhere that AMD promised in 2016 to stick to AM4 for 5 years.
I wonder if 5600x is a prudent purchase right now, seeing as it has less cores than the new gen consoles. |
Yes it will be last, i would not buy anything less than 8 cores / 16 threads now.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 12:41 Post subject: |
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Just wait for a sale to get the 5800x for like $399
Or grab a 3900x for even less
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 12:43 Post subject: |
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The latest BIOS for AMD now includes a new option:
DRAM Latency Enhance - increases slightly DRAM timings
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 16:06 Post subject: |
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| KGen wrote: | So, it is the last CPU release for AM4 socket? Seen somewhere that AMD promised in 2016 to stick to AM4 for 5 years.
I wonder if 5600x is a prudent purchase right now, seeing as it has less cores than the new gen consoles. |
5600X is one of the best choices for now. I wouldnt spend 2-3x more just to have more cores doing pretty much nothing at 1440p and 4K resolutions. Unless you do some production in addition to gaming. If you do then 5900X or 5950X all the way. 
5600X being quite cheap it's not the end of the world if you upgrade it after 2-3 years, especially with AM5, DDR5 etc in mind.
Ryzen 9800X3D CO ~-26/+200 | Freezer III 360 A-RGB & 3x Phanteks T30 | Strix X670E-F WiFi | MSI GeForce RTX 5090 Ventus OC | Fury Beast 64GB (2x 32GB) DDR5 5600MHz C40 @ 6000MHz C28 | 970 EVO Plus 2 TB | 38GN950-B | S.M.S.L RAW-MDA1 & HiFiMAN Arya Organic | Lancool III Snow White + 4x be quiet! Silent Wings Pro 4 140mm | RM1000x (2021) Gold | G Pro X SUPERLIGHT 2 & POWERPLAY | Win 11 Pro | Logitech MX MECHANICAL
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 17:50 Post subject: |
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| escalibur wrote: | | KGen wrote: | So, it is the last CPU release for AM4 socket? Seen somewhere that AMD promised in 2016 to stick to AM4 for 5 years.
I wonder if 5600x is a prudent purchase right now, seeing as it has less cores than the new gen consoles. |
5600X is one of the best choices for now. I wouldnt spend 2-3x more just to have more cores doing pretty much nothing at 1440p and 4K resolutions. Unless you do some production in addition to gaming. If you do then 5900X or 5950X all the way.
5600X being quite cheap it's not the end of the world if you upgrade it after 2-3 years, especially with AM5, DDR5 etc in mind. |
That's exactly the issue - with new socket and new memory on the horizon (next year maybe?) and low amount of cores, it's maybe a decent upgrade to current am4 mobo holders. For me a switch from 6700k doesn't look that worthwhile. I believe new games will be optimized for 8 cores from now on.
i7 6700k @ 4.4 GHZ, 2060s, 16 GB RAM, SSD, Windows 10x64.
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Danyutz
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 18:59 Post subject: |
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^ I'm in the same boat KGen, in march next year I have 5 years since I got the 6700k and I'm looking at 5600x as a replacement.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 19:18 Post subject: |
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5600X is good way to go if you dont want to regret in the future by paying eg. 580€ (5900X) now and hoping to get even half of that when AM5 and DDR5 are out. So play smart based on your _actual_ needs at this very moment.
Ryzen 9800X3D CO ~-26/+200 | Freezer III 360 A-RGB & 3x Phanteks T30 | Strix X670E-F WiFi | MSI GeForce RTX 5090 Ventus OC | Fury Beast 64GB (2x 32GB) DDR5 5600MHz C40 @ 6000MHz C28 | 970 EVO Plus 2 TB | 38GN950-B | S.M.S.L RAW-MDA1 & HiFiMAN Arya Organic | Lancool III Snow White + 4x be quiet! Silent Wings Pro 4 140mm | RM1000x (2021) Gold | G Pro X SUPERLIGHT 2 & POWERPLAY | Win 11 Pro | Logitech MX MECHANICAL
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 19:41 Post subject: |
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| PickupArtist wrote: | does steve watch his own videos these days, super boring 30 min vids, super annoying monotone speedtalking, dull graphs ... like cmon man, innovate and get some more personalities ffs  like he really is just rambling filler content atm ... |
I've also gave up on their videos. It's like listening to someone reading a phone book. Too much info, too much reading and less relaxed talk.
Hardware Unboxed is currently probably the best channel. Short videos, tons of information and pretty much zero annoyances.
Ryzen 9800X3D CO ~-26/+200 | Freezer III 360 A-RGB & 3x Phanteks T30 | Strix X670E-F WiFi | MSI GeForce RTX 5090 Ventus OC | Fury Beast 64GB (2x 32GB) DDR5 5600MHz C40 @ 6000MHz C28 | 970 EVO Plus 2 TB | 38GN950-B | S.M.S.L RAW-MDA1 & HiFiMAN Arya Organic | Lancool III Snow White + 4x be quiet! Silent Wings Pro 4 140mm | RM1000x (2021) Gold | G Pro X SUPERLIGHT 2 & POWERPLAY | Win 11 Pro | Logitech MX MECHANICAL
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 19:42 Post subject: |
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| Danyutz wrote: | | ^ I'm in the same boat KGen, in march next year I have 5 years since I got the 6700k and I'm looking at 5600x as a replacement. |
Yeah, I was hoping it's time to upgrade, but the more I think about it, the less attractive it gets.
| escalibur wrote: | | 5600X is good way to go if you dont want to regret in the future by paying eg. 580€ (5900X) now and hoping to get even half of that when AM5 and DDR5 are out. So play smart based on your _actual_ needs at this very moment. |
Well, I am considering getting 5600x and mobo+memory combo on the cheaper side, to hold me over until the "next big thing", but it really goes against my grain. I like buying good hardware knowing it will serve me well for quite some time, not bridging gaps with bare minimum. 
i7 6700k @ 4.4 GHZ, 2060s, 16 GB RAM, SSD, Windows 10x64.
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Danyutz
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 19:47 Post subject: |
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Same here, I'd do just fine with a new gen gpu only, to replace my 1070. The CPU has been serving me just fine until now.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 20:00 Post subject: |
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| Danyutz wrote: | | Same here, I'd do just fine with a new gen gpu only, to replace my 1070. The CPU has been serving me just fine until now. |
Then you're in better shape than me, I stupidly switched 970 to 2060s earlier this year. You on the other hand can get a 3070/3080 and be fine for a while.
i7 6700k @ 4.4 GHZ, 2060s, 16 GB RAM, SSD, Windows 10x64.
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Danyutz
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 20:07 Post subject: |
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Why don't you do that as well? i'm running stock clocks, also on 16g ram - same shape
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Danyutz
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2020 20:25 Post subject: |
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I know, i can turbo it safely to 4.2 from bios alone, but I never touched OC, because I don't need it and Im not curious about it because it worked flawlessly. The GPUs were the issue, all the time.
Bear in mind that since I got the 1070 (1.5 years ago), I game at 1440p on high, with locked 60fps. If the game is too demanding and not well optimized, I switch to 1080 and increase details. Nothing to complain about.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Nov 2020 15:51 Post subject: |
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| Areius wrote: | | PickupArtist wrote: | | does steve watch his own videos these days, super boring 30 min vids, super annoying monotone speedtalking, dull graphs ... like cmon man, innovate and get some more personalities ffs like he really is just rambling filler content atm ... |
Welcome to every YouTuber. I really do not see the point in such videos, I highly prefer written ones, you can easily browse to the sections you find interesting, without people shouting. Just some graphs you can read at your own pace. |
I don't think that applies here (about the every youtubers) since what pickup wants is rather one of those shouty showboats.  |
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_SiN_
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Nov 2020 17:37 Post subject: |
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Hopefully AMD can push out far more CPUs than Nvidia can with their GPUs. I ordered a 5950X a couple of hours after they released, and I'm placed at 185 in the queue where I ordered it from :/
Not that I'm in a hurry, but I don't want to wait months either.
Watercooled 5950X | AORUS Master X570 | Asus RTX 3090 TUF Gaming OC | 64Gb RAM | 1Tb 970 Evo Plus + 2Tb 660p | etc etc
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