100Hz vs. 120Hz vs. 144Hz for gaming
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 17:28    Post subject:
Ampee wrote:
couleur wrote:
3440x1440, and as I said, its for the next 6-8 years. I may not reach 100 FPS consistently now but it will happen in 4 years and I play older games. Plus its a bonus in Windows.


Well unless you ugprade to the new 3080 or 3090 (or its AMD counterpart) you wont do 100+ FPS in many games. Of course if you play games like:
-CS
-Tomb raider
-Doom eternal

Those will probably like 90000000000000000000 FPS with 1% GPU usage.


3080 or AMD counterpart, yes that was the plan.


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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 18:09    Post subject:
Acer Predator X27P

Size: 27-inch | Resolution: 3840x2160 | Refresh rate: 144Hz | Features: G-Sync HDR | Panel: IPS Quantum Dot

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-best-gaming-monitor-7003

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/gjo5wq/acer_predator_x27p_fanmod_review_2020/

and this one here is all out

https://evedevices.com/pages/spectrum

all insanely priced ofc


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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 18:14    Post subject:
Thanks for the suggestion. I’m specifically searching for 3440x1440 res on 34” adaptive sync.


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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 18:19    Post subject:
/r/buildapc may give you some clues
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 18:25    Post subject:
zTurbo wrote:
Acer Predator X27P

Size: 27-inch | Resolution: 3840x2160 | Refresh rate: 144Hz | Features: G-Sync HDR | Panel: IPS Quantum Dot

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-best-gaming-monitor-7003

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/gjo5wq/acer_predator_x27p_fanmod_review_2020/

and this one here is all out

https://evedevices.com/pages/spectrum

all insanely priced ofc


Have 2 of those. They're really great
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 18:57    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion. I’m specifically searching for 3440x1440 res on 34” adaptive sync.


The new cheap Xiaomi MI 34" ultrawide seems to be pretty good, it has Freesync Premium, VA panel with 144hz (samsung panel it seems, those are great).

https://www.mi.com/global/monitor34/
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 19:15    Post subject:
Wouldn't mind going AMD, but always thought nvidia had better compatibility for older games throughout their generations of cards. And since I'm more likely to play old stuff nowadays...


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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 19:42    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
couleur wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion. I’m specifically searching for 3440x1440 res on 34” adaptive sync.


The new cheap Xiaomi MI 34" ultrawide seems to be pretty good, it has Freesync Premium, VA panel with 144hz (samsung panel it seems, those are great).

https://www.mi.com/global/monitor34/


There are a few monitors with exactly that panel around. I might just pick one up to test it. But I hear awful stories about VA Panels. And its not only the black smearing in games but just moving around windows over a dark background triggers it apparently. Then again maybe some people are more sensitive to it than others.

Did you ever use a VA panel yourself?


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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 20:55    Post subject:
2 1/2 years ago I bought and almost immediately returned this one: AOC Agon AG322QCX

First of all my GTX 970 wasn't able to run anything at the max Hz but apart from that, the black smearing happened not only at pitch black but with all darker shades and always left behind some purple trailing which was REALLY annoying. I didn't like the color accuracy and no matter how much I tried to get the colors correct, they always looked a little off. Also you can forget doing anything graphical on a curved screen, it's just suuper distracting Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 21:12    Post subject:
@PumpAction Thats exactly what I don't want. Purple trailing or some such. Sounds awful. The curve, I think I wont mind on a 21:9 screen.


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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 21:29    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
Breezer_ wrote:
couleur wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion. I’m specifically searching for 3440x1440 res on 34” adaptive sync.


The new cheap Xiaomi MI 34" ultrawide seems to be pretty good, it has Freesync Premium, VA panel with 144hz (samsung panel it seems, those are great).

https://www.mi.com/global/monitor34/


There are a few monitors with exactly that panel around. I might just pick one up to test it. But I hear awful stories about VA Panels. And its not only the black smearing in games but just moving around windows over a dark background triggers it apparently. Then again maybe some people are more sensitive to it than others.

Did you ever use a VA panel yourself?


This current 5120x1440 Samsung super ultrawide has VA panel and it doesnt have the "smearing" what usually is on VA panels, motion blur is comparable to my VG271UP 27" IPS monitor, but yeah, the smearing is a thing on VA panels, had horrible on my samsung TV many years ago, my 2 year old Samsung 65" VA TV does not have that.
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 22:11    Post subject:
Ok so there is some hope. Though the Odyssey G9 seems like a bit of overkill to me.


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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 22:23    Post subject:
Ya that LG CX 48 is at present best value and quality panel on the market, the tradeoff being I don't want a 48 inch screen on my desk and also potential burn in. Asus want you to pay more for VA panels with inferior HDR, contrast etc.
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2020 19:46    Post subject:
anyone know how many hrz this is, screw 48 inch i want TWO WALLS FULL of this screen Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 23:39    Post subject:
Anyone gotten those Samsung 49" curved monitors?

Latest one is the Odyssey G9 for 1.5k€ (2x 2k monitor practically)

I'm considering replacing my monitors with such, but ... 1.5k is a bit too steep...


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 09:41    Post subject:
mtj wrote:
Anyone gotten those Samsung 49" curved monitors?

Latest one is the Odyssey G9 for 1.5k€ (2x 2k monitor practically)

I'm considering replacing my monitors with such, but ... 1.5k is a bit too steep...


I have the Samsung Odyssey C49RG90 49" 120hz model that costs 1000 eur, that odyssey one has too much curve for my work,. Never going back to normal aspect ratio screen, its glorious, it can be so immersive on games aswell.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 09:46    Post subject:
@Breezer_ How is the black smearing / Ghosting?


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 10:00    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
@Breezer_ How is the black smearing / Ghosting?


It is very nicely controlled (you can see slight smearing when scrolling text on specific color backgrounds, but in motion you cant see it, in motion the picture is pretty much exactly like on 144hz IPS screen, which has just "motion blur".
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 10:07    Post subject:
Ok, thanks. Is the textscrolling smearing on highest overdrive setting? Does it bother you? I work alot on documents so I'd see it alot. You use it for work too, right?

And last question: How are the viewing angles? I tend do change position on my desk alot when I sit there for hours and I heard VA has bad viewing angles.

My 60Hz IPS screen just has 0 ghosting and near perfect viewing angles, so there is that.


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 10:12    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
Ok, thanks. Is the textscrolling smearing on highest overdrive setting? Does it bother you? I work alot on documents so I'd see it alot. You use it for work too, right?

And last question: How are the viewing angles? I tend do change position on my desk alot when I sit there for hours and I heard VA has bad viewing angles.

My 60Hz IPS screen just has 0 ghosting and near perfect viewing angles, so there is that.


It does not bother me, it is so minimal, when im scrolling i dont even notice it if im not searching it. Viewing angles has always been problem with VA, but im always sitting middle of screen so i dont give a shit about viewing angles, the curve also makes you be in "midlle of the image". Got very lucky with the panel, its pretty much perfect, RTINGS had horrible black uniformity on their sample unit.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 10:15    Post subject:
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Ya that LG CX 48 is at present best value and quality panel on the market, the tradeoff being I don't want a 48 inch screen on my desk and also potential burn in. Asus want you to pay more for VA panels with inferior HDR, contrast etc.


Compare the spec and cost of the Samsung G9 vs. the OLED 48 CX panel, not even competative Just sucks its 48 inch Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 10:16    Post subject:
@Breezer_

Ok, that screen now went up in my list of candidates for a new screen. It really ticks almost all the boxes.

I don't know what Samsung thought when giving the G9 and G7 series a 1000R curvature. That is just too much.


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 10:31    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
@Breezer_

Ok, that screen now went up in my list of candidates for a new screen. It really ticks almost all the boxes.

I don't know what Samsung thought when giving the G9 and G7 series a 1000R curvature. That is just too much.


Go try it somewhere, you wont be disappointed. That 1000R curvature will be very immersive for gaming, you can sit much closer to the screen, but for working its horrible Laughing.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 10:38    Post subject:
What are these prices. I paid 1500€ for my 4k 120Hz 65"! inch OLED with 0 angle issues, no ghosting, no overdrive required, fantastic colors, no smearing and most likely no burn in if I don't run it on full brightness all the time while blasting static content. But if you work on documents your "toolbar" will most likely stay on the same spot allllll the time so... oled might suck for that? A dark, lower contrast theme would definitely help I guess :/

1000€ for a VA seems reaaaally expensive! Aren't there high frequency IPS with good quality in that price range?


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 11:44    Post subject:
@PumpAction Well, its basically two 2560x1440 Panels, so the price might be okish. But I agree that UW Panels have a shitty price/performance ratio.

TV Screens are just too big for office.


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 12:59    Post subject:
Yeah I can't do 48" on the desk either, If you still use dual screens (i don't) it seems more compelling as your getting dual screens in a single 48" panel. It seems like LG just use the PC monitor space to sell VA/IPS panels at extreme prices, a smaller CX TV would easily beat anything by any vendor.. it makes those ASUS screens look criminal.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 13:01    Post subject:
I wish LG would drop bomb and do 32" version of that new 48" OLED, would be fucking amazing. Have been thinking to buy the 48" to my computer room for PS5.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 14:44    Post subject:
I don't get it why the CX are so hyped, the BX, B9 and C9 all were equally capable of 120Hz HDMI 2.1. Heck LG, just give us 32/34" Desktop Oleds YOU BITCH!


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 14:57    Post subject:
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I don't get it why the CX are so hyped, the BX, B9 and C9 all were equally capable of 120Hz HDMI 2.1. Heck LG, just give us 32/34" Desktop Oleds YOU BITCH!


They will cost atleast double what 65" costs when that happens tho.
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