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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 04:39    Post subject:
@Interinactive At least you are not quoting that retard. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 04:44    Post subject:
Like a puppet on a string, string, string, string.....

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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 05:00    Post subject:
GDDR6X Memory

Currently, GDDR6X is the fastest graphics memory and delivers ultra-high bandwidth, which is close to that of HBM2 memory. GDDR6X is the successor of GDDR6 memory with significant improvements in all departments that include speed, bandwidth, and power efficiency. GDDR6X memory can have speed up to 21Gbps and can deliver bandwidth up to 1TB/s. The memory uses PAM4 signaling technology to achieve much higher speeds. It is developed by Micron and is currently being used in the latest top-end RTX 30 series graphics cards that include the RTX 3080/3090.

3070 and below all use GDDR6 only.

Something else to consider, along with having a true PCIe 4.0 slot Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 06:09    Post subject:
Highly doubt PCI 4.0 will have any impact on this generation, I dont consider the 3090 a realistic option from price perspective (prefer put that cash towards a decent monitor or something that will last 5-10 years).
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 10:36    Post subject:
They already said difference between 3.0 and 4.0 is within margin, at most 1%.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 10:40    Post subject:
Remains to see if leveraging their RTX IO to boost loading speeds has any impact on the relevance of the PCI-E gen

But not for general usage

In fact given that Nvidia did all of their presentation on a Intel CPU...
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 12:01    Post subject:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/imx9id/nvidia_ampere_geforce_rtx_30_series_has_sriov/

Surprised

Fairly big deal feature if true, essentially allows you to do PCI/GPU passthrough between host and VM without a secondary GPU (well thats my usecase anyway). In the past NVIDIA have intentionally crippled this kind of functionality so in usual fashion they can put it behind a paywall, looks like they might just allow this functionality on the 3000 series.

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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 13:13    Post subject:
Amadeus wrote:
Remains to see if leveraging their RTX IO to boost loading speeds has any impact on the relevance of the PCI-E gen


The preview won't be available to developers until some time next year, which imo puts the first titles using it for a 2022 release at best. It won't make one bit of difference during Ampere's lifetime, especially since we all know how quickly developers adopt these new technologies in general. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 17:51    Post subject:
RTX IO...

Wait what??!

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The graph displayed by the manufacturer shows reads up to 14 GB/s with low CPU usage.


Uhm, fastest NVMe has around a quarter of that performance. I must be missing something.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 17:58    Post subject:
"Ray Tracing Xxx IO" Laughing

DirectStorage is most likely the name that will stick, especially after AMD has its own "NAVI IO" implementation.

Frant wrote:
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The graph displayed by the manufacturer shows reads up to 14 GB/s with low CPU usage.


Uhm, fastest NVMe has around a quarter of that performance. I must be missing something.

Isn't that number also taking into account the data after decompression, which is now offloaded from the CPU to dedicated hardware or GPU?
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 18:05    Post subject:
I don't know, I haven't really done much reading about the new compression stuff and how much of the CPU's processing power is used to decompress data (I take it the data is textures, geometry etc.?).


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 18:06    Post subject:
Probably also general-purpose compression for other content. Most likely new compression algorithms will also come out of this, which were deemed prohibitive until now.
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2020 08:52    Post subject:
according to GN, NVidia considers 3090 a Titan and not a gaming card



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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2020 09:12    Post subject:
I will buy it and game on it to prove them wrong Mad
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2020 09:36    Post subject:
Yeah it's $1800 USD regional pricing here, it's several hundred dollars cheaper to buy 2x 3080's here Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2020 12:38    Post subject:
People seem to think 24GB VRAM is needed for gaming Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2020 12:47    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
People seem to think 24GB VRAM is needed for gaming Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2020 13:21    Post subject:
People seem to think 10GB VRAM is enough for gaming when you currently have card with 11GB and are not happy down grading.
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2020 13:41    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
People seem to think 24GB VRAM is needed for gaming Smile


Who does?
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2020 14:10    Post subject:
So, the 2080 & 2080ti cards are worth a big chunk less now.

Mmm so do i sell my 2080 now before the price hit rock bottom, or wait it out and be left with fuck all value in my card!

I'd really like to upgrade to the 3080 as my Ultrawide pushes my 2080 too hard and struggles to get to the higher settings.

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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2020 14:23    Post subject:
AMD cards have always had like double the VRAM compared to Nvidia counterparts, but Radeon VII is not gaming card only, its defect Radeon Instinct card with normal drivers and display outputs. If you think you need that 24GB for gaming, especially for 1080p/1440p just go ahead and buy it, sick of this retarded VRAM fight Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2020 14:30    Post subject:
If nvidia releases a 3080 with 20gb it'll probably be $200 more

I'd still hold out and see if 10gb ain't enough
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2020 14:35    Post subject:
Can´t see any reason why they would do that, 3080ti will be the card which will get 20GB or so VRAM.
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2020 14:41    Post subject:
There is a leaked 3070 Ti with 16GB. But why would they need that when clearly 10GB is all that you ever need??? lol wut
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2020 14:47    Post subject:
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