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Frant
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Thanks for the info and interesting that it's a "legit" license.... for now. I'm getting ready to reinstall my PC and I'm still deciding whether I'll do a normal Win10 Pro install or go the LTSC route. Thing is, I need to get the store app and xbox live stuff working since I'm using game pass and it seems to be a bit of a hassle to get it working properly on LTSC.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Aug 2020 06:02 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | Thanks for the info and interesting that it's a "legit" license.... for now. I'm getting ready to reinstall my PC and I'm still deciding whether I'll do a normal Win10 Pro install or go the LTSC route. Thing is, I need to get the store app and xbox live stuff working since I'm using game pass and it seems to be a bit of a hassle to get it working properly on LTSC. |
Nah, if you wish the Store on LTSC, it's really easy m8  Follow the guide on MDL, or let me know?, and I'll guide you through it There is nothing that cant be done, honestly
...although, 'Game Pass' is a no go  The App requires latest Win10, and will proceed to upgrade your system if you don't have it, or in LTSC's case, throw up an error, as this version can't upgrade to that path  This is the same for version 1903, it will make you update to 2004 just to use your 'Game Pass', so be warned. Don't you just love it
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Aug 2020 11:02 Post subject: |
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Or get the yarr pass + LTSC, works just fine
"stuck in the past" 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2020 08:03 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2020 10:15 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2020 10:49 Post subject: |
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most of that stuff are probably not something you want to install/run on windows.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2020 15:39 Post subject: |
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| Areius wrote: | | You should try out KeePassXC, it's much better than KeePass. And Macrium for backups, it's much more reliable than O&O |
Oh yea, I LOVE Macrium reflect.
Once I found it it use the hell out of it. Image drives, restore them, open them directly as folders/mounted drives.
I use it on every PC in my house before a windows reinstall. As my kids always forget to backup SOMETHING they wanted. Open the image up from the NAS and grab what they want off it.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2020 22:56 Post subject: |
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i don't think I've ever used backup products on my own systems ever, just full rebuild. Oh i do have data replicate between my devices, i guess that's backup, syncthing.
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Aug 2020 11:46 Post subject: |
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Does anybody have a solution for a PROPER multidesktop solution under Win10?
When I use the built-in multiple desktops, some applications (especially those that go fullscreen) will be shown in the taskbar of both/all desktops. I want the applications launched on one desktop to be stricly limited to showing up on only that one.
Any ideas around this?
βThe only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.β
- Albert Camus
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Aug 2020 20:07 Post subject: |
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| bringiton wrote: | Does anybody have a solution for a PROPER multidesktop solution under Win10?
When I use the built-in multiple desktops, some applications (especially those that go fullscreen) will be shown in the taskbar of both/all desktops. I want the applications launched on one desktop to be stricly limited to showing up on only that one.
Any ideas around this? |
That's an option in windows under the taskbar settings. "Show taskbar buttons on..."
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Aug 2020 20:24 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Aug 2020 15:52 Post subject: |
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Continued.....
| Areius wrote: | | Using LTSC means missing out on new OS enhancements that are included in SAC releases β particularly new security features |
Good. They are all bloated useless intrusive shit anyway, and LTSC gets the security features anyway.
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No support for the modern Edge browser |
Good. That shit is one of the first things I strip out, or prevent installing anyway.
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No support for Windows Store |
Even better. It's a pile of horse dung.
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From January 2020, Microsoft Office 365 will not be supported on |
Would never go near it, so that is welcome news.
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LTSC does not keep pace with feature enhancements to Windows Defender ATP |
Another piece of crap that is one of the first to get stripped out. System hog, and worthless at best.
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Potential Independent Hardware and Software Vendor support and limitations on LTSC
Non-security operating system fixes and enhancements may not get back-ported to LTSC
LTSC should be used on machinery, monitoring systems, lab equipment etc. Basically equipment that has a single function.
TLDR: get normal Enterprise edition, this is meant for desktop purpose. |
The rest is utter nonsense.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Aug 2020 17:41 Post subject: |
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Eh I'll give enterprise a go on the next upgrade, probably later this year.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Aug 2020 19:33 Post subject: |
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| scaramonga wrote: | Continued.....
| Areius wrote: | | Using LTSC means missing out on new OS enhancements that are included in SAC releases β particularly new security features |
Good. They are all bloated useless intrusive shit anyway, and LTSC gets the security features anyway.
| Areius wrote: |
No support for the modern Edge browser |
Good. That shit is one of the first things I strip out, or prevent installing anyway.
| Areius wrote: |
No support for Windows Store |
Even better. It's a pile of horse dung.
| Areius wrote: |
From January 2020, Microsoft Office 365 will not be supported on |
Would never go near it, so that is welcome news.
| Areius wrote: |
LTSC does not keep pace with feature enhancements to Windows Defender ATP |
Another piece of crap that is one of the first to get stripped out. System hog, and worthless at best.
| Areius wrote: |
Potential Independent Hardware and Software Vendor support and limitations on LTSC
Non-security operating system fixes and enhancements may not get back-ported to LTSC
LTSC should be used on machinery, monitoring systems, lab equipment etc. Basically equipment that has a single function.
TLDR: get normal Enterprise edition, this is meant for desktop purpose. |
The rest is utter nonsense. |
What are the reasons behind your statements?
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Aug 2020 22:12 Post subject: |
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| Ampee wrote: | | I see, do you happen to know why he is fed up with windows? |
i would guess the intrusive tracking and calling home features, the continuous messing up of updates by microsoft... many justified frustrations I guess but aiming to stay on outdated OS is not the solution either. with the machine I am maintaining for my girlfriend I think i found the sweet spot now, just removing the obvious crap in a clean way without botching the install for future updates. in the end users of windows need to accept their OS will not respect their privacy so it is not worth the time to tweak it until it becomes a proprietary privacy oriented operating system. if you want this, do it right and move to linux, use your time in building your own system instead of dismantling windows... my 2 cents
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Aug 2020 23:10 Post subject: |
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| skx7 wrote: | | Ampee wrote: | | I see, do you happen to know why he is fed up with windows? |
i would guess the intrusive tracking and calling home features, the continuous messing up of updates by microsoft... many justified frustrations I guess but aiming to stay on outdated OS is not the solution either. with the machine I am maintaining for my girlfriend I think i found the sweet spot now, just removing the obvious crap in a clean way without botching the install for future updates. in the end users of windows need to accept their OS will not respect their privacy so it is not worth the time to tweak it until it becomes a proprietary privacy oriented operating system. if you want this, do it right and move to linux, use your time in building your own system instead of dismantling windows... my 2 cents |
but how is it outdated, if just some new features are missing? there are still up to date bug and security fixes.
for example a friend of mine still uses ltsb 1607 (still uptodate and secure) and just a few weeks ago he had his first problem, where a normal x86/x64 game wouldn't start because of an older windows version. he has his system running since 2016, when ltsb 1607 was released. not a single problem in all those years, just a stable system. how is that bad?
he could upgrade on ltsc 1809 if he wants too, but he doesn't care about that cracked game anyway, so he won't probably until the next ltsc version comes next year. it would run fine on the latest ltsc 1809 version. other then microsoft store games, there is no downside for anyone, also not for games, except if you need gpu scheduling or cpu scheduling for ryzens.
everyone i know who uses ltsc is happy with it and everyone i recommend it or install it, know what "downsides" it could have and they are fine with this, because they don't care about the microsoft store or some of those few new features. they rather want an untouched and stable system which runs many years, so they can upgrade when they want to.
another friend of mine said "no he wants store games", so of course i didn't installed ltsc on his pc.
so i don't see the hate, just because microsoft says, it's not meant for desktop pc's?
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Aug 2020 23:27 Post subject: |
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| freiwald wrote: |
but how is it outdated, if just some new features are missing? there are still up to date bug and security fixes.
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it can be that it still receives all security fixes from microsoft but i noticed on my girlfriend's machine that a default ltsc was running slower and acting slower compared to a fresh latest win10 pro install. i am not a windows expert myself but the experience of 2 fresh installs showed quite different performance on her machine.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Aug 2020 00:12 Post subject: |
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| skx7 wrote: | | freiwald wrote: |
but how is it outdated, if just some new features are missing? there are still up to date bug and security fixes.
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it can be that it still receives all security fixes from microsoft but i noticed on my girlfriend's machine that a default ltsc was running slower and acting slower compared to a fresh latest win10 pro install. i am not a windows expert myself but the experience of 2 fresh installs showed quite different performance on her machine. |
but how can that be? maybe there was a driver missing? ltsc uses less resources and supports the same stuff the newest version does, except gpu scheduling and cpu scheduling for ryzen cpus.
not that you would notice it that much, but i always thought it would be a little bit faster, atleast with a fresh install. if you unbloat windows 10 it could become the same, but you have to redo that atleast with every huge update. also it uses way less ram.
like i said i can see why people want pro or normal enterprise versions, for example for store games, or because they want to get the best out of their ryzens. but otherwise i can't see why ltsc shouldn't be used on the desktop.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Aug 2020 00:58 Post subject: |
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| freiwald wrote: |
but how can that be? maybe there was a driver missing? ltsc uses less resources and supports the same stuff the newest version does, except gpu scheduling and cpu scheduling for ryzen cpus. |
W10 non LTSC became better compared to previous versions? majority of bloatware can now also be easily uninstalled via uninstall menu or powershell. I can imagine W10 from 3 years ago still got many more teething issues compared to today's version. Like latest version allows you to cleanly uninstall cortana... besides all the remaining crap, these are nice changes made by mircosoft at least
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And afaik only Enterprise allows you to disable telemetry in case you're worried about MS spying on you.
