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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2020 08:02    Post subject:
I can see *that* from the Era comments too.
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It was to be expected anyway, every remake seems to target drooling idiots.



Stuff like this.
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Honestly, I'm glad they are modernizing the gameplay. I never liked the original gameplay, I know what they were going for with it, but it's very much a product of it's time and I absolutely would not want to play a game with as much simulation elements as Mafia 1. Many of my friends are pretty much the same way, they basically put the game though a microscope and criticize every little change and I think it's silly, I like what I see and I'm going to enjoy it, I always wanted to enjoy Mafia 1 story without a gameplay that actively fights against you.



I do wonder what Vavra could do with a budget and a good deal of active time for development, Kingdom come lacked a bit of both but still tried to deliver and if there had been more time the launch state should have gone a lot smoother but it's both that and the financial situation.

Kickstarter is nice but it's only a small amount of the money involved in bigger budget productions and when it comes to publisher deals you can't expect to be given much unless you give up a lot and also hit sales expectations which for a niche game I doubt is going to be interesting to a majority of the bigger publishers playing it safe and targeting mass appeal.


It's good though but it's a fine line for what can be done even when you have some backing yourself or through investors but it worked out. Mostly.


Curious as to the design of Mafia 1 here and then including a "Classic" mode as a extra but the game isn't primarily designed around it anyway though it could be neat to have but it won't be the same thing.

At a guess fan feedback and popularity and they get something to work on and have been working on for a while before starting up the next project and I expect a shift to the Playstation 5 and XBox Series X systems.

With a possibility to repack a complete edition of Mafia 1 Remake here and re-sell it with some enhancements for these.
(There's going to be DLC and pre-order bonuses or well we already have some of them so nothing new there.)



EDIT: Well Vavra won't be doing Mafia since the rights belong to the publisher here and they are using it in full with a potential for either a sequel or using Hangar's engine here for future developments and other projects once it's been overhauled a bit.

Executive meddling and publisher demands, would be interesting to see what sort of creativity could be done with less of that mentality plus the crazy expenses thrown into marketing and advertisement alone for some projects with a turnabout time of 1 or 2 years development and limited chance of getting a delayed OK'ed if needed.


Next gen might have everyone fucking then or how the saying here goes again. Razz
(Even Rockstar seem to have felt that recently from their publisher leading to some changes and they're doing ridiculously well due to MTX in the existing games too.)
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vurt




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2020 08:43    Post subject:
ACG acting like a retard, as expected from him. He excuses certain graphical issues with "it's a remaster of an older game".. uh what, this new version have nothing to do with the older engine or it's graphics. How does this idiot have so many subscribers? i remember making a comment on his Vampyr review (which he claimed was like the best game ever), and all i got was a "lol good trolling" when all i did was asking why he refused to talk about the negatives. Clearly he works as a paid advertiser more than a unbiased reviewer.
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qqq




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2020 09:00    Post subject:
^ watched his video a bit. yeah, never liked the guy, his voice and way of talking makes me wanna do bad things to him. resetera likes him, so maybe hes aligned in taste with them.

From what i watched he says he never really liked Mafia 1, he thinks the arcade driving in the remake is much better, he says "if anyone played that game...", about the original. These journos are gonna review this game in a complete vacuum. They havent got the slightest idea about the original. And i guess around 80% of them were barelly out of diapers then.

The game as far as i can see has,in broad stroaks the same missions, but like i said on the previous page, they neuter all the details that actually form the experience. Sure, the first mission is the same, get away and go to the bar. But here, you dont actually have individual health for each of the 3 characters, you have a broad one on the car, that goes away very slow. The "escape" has several cutscene triggers it seems. The police is very scarce and easy going. The melle is the usual auto magnetise when you get in the trigger area, instead of actualy having to connect the hit. The combat is the usual retarded snap to cover and pop-a-mole.

And christ almighty, the voices. They sound awful, each and every one of them.

All in all, seems like a game Sin will absolutely love and provide us with countless pages of youtube videos
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bronson




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2020 09:28    Post subject:


Pretty much covers everything.
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bringiton




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2020 09:32    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:

* GPS navigation will still be available on the minimap, you won't see any in-world navigation signs popping up on street corners and such to show you the way.



You know what? I always preferred having signs on the world itself instead of just on the minimap. Not because it'd lol wut, but because I can finally keep my eyes on the game itself rather than just focusing on a small corner of the screen all the time. I actually get to know the city better that way, in some open-world games I will drive around only looking at the minimap and not even know afterwards where exactly I went.


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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2020 09:58    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
ACG acting like a retard, as expected from him.[...] How does this idiot have so many subscribers? i remember making a comment on his Vampyr review (which he claimed was like the best game ever), and all i got was a "lol good trolling" when all i did was asking why he refused to talk about the negatives. Clearly he works as a paid advertiser more than a unbiased reviewer.


Glad I am not the only one who sees that.

Made a comment on his HZD PC review and called him the most "talented dissimulated influencer on YT".

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At the same time, it's quite worrying and sad that so many people are seeing him as such a "good" reviewer. Ignorance reigns queen around these parts.


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Cyp




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2020 11:30    Post subject:
am i the only one bothered by the fact that in the intro the guy coming out of the train is the cop and not tommy? in the original the cop waits for him in the diner this one tommy waits for the cop... the whole scene is role reversed


I teleported home one night
With Ron and Sid and Meg.
Ron stole Meggie's heart away
And i got Sidneys leg.
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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2020 11:35    Post subject:
They said that they changed that, after speaking to some real life mobsters. Laughing

Apparently it was common thing when you were a famous mobster to be more careful and always arrive first, take a seat in the back with a view of the front door.
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Cyp




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2020 11:37    Post subject:
Ke1N4o wrote:
They said that they changed that, after speaking to some real life mobsters. Laughing

Apparently it was common thing when you were a famous mobster to be more careful and always arrive first, take a seat in the back with a view of the front door.


i guess it makes sense still bothers me tho


I teleported home one night
With Ron and Sid and Meg.
Ron stole Meggie's heart away
And i got Sidneys leg.
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StEFaN7




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2020 13:20    Post subject:
problem is in your head

as for the game, before the gameplay reveal it looked more next gen, now it looks more current but also a bit dated in some places

blackeyedboy wrote:

Glad I am not the only one who sees that.

that dude is fake as fuck, same as with worth a buy, but people in this forum keep recommending them

lol wut


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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2020 21:10    Post subject:
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bronson




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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Aug 2020 19:48    Post subject:
I still have the yarr discs of the original. A clanmate send them to me, because he thought it was an awesome game - he was right Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Aug 2020 18:58    Post subject:


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Aug 2020 19:15    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Aug 2020 19:51    Post subject:
Laughing


"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.

Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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Adebisi




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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Aug 2020 01:47    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zc9PpC1Xb0


Looks good. Very Happy

I'm happy i will get to finally enjoy the first game story and setting.
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Aug 2020 01:55    Post subject:
Yep, graphics and world look good.

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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Aug 2020 06:01    Post subject:
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qqq




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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Aug 2020 08:04    Post subject:
Adebisi wrote:
headshot wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zc9PpC1Xb0


Looks good. Very Happy

I'm happy i will get to finally enjoy the first game story and setting.


looks pretty awful actually. What prevented you to enjoy the first game in the last 18 years ?

The atmosphere seems to be gone. The original has a much stronger sense of place of the 1930's than this, for some reason. And every nuance and small detail that made the original shine and standout is removed or diluted here. You have the standard automated popamole game that you've played a million times before.
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Aug 2020 11:05    Post subject:
Like most things I enjoyed in my youth, nostalgia has most likely amplified that experience in my memory. The original has one of the most impactful stories and had one of the strongest connections with the protagonist. However, it wasn't without its faults i.e. the world could've been more atmospheric, exploration wasn't rewarded etc.

Putting those memories aside and judging what little I've seen from the remake. This looks very polished and a lot more atmospheric in terms of capturing that era. Whether or not I will warm to the characters is yet to be seen. Knowing how the story ends will probably mean that I won't be as engaged, but that won't be the fault of the developers design choices.
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Aug 2020 13:19    Post subject:
If you played and enjoyed the first game, there's a temptation to fall into a big nostalgia pit.

If you do that, make sure to get the fuck out of that pit quickly.

You'll thank me later...


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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Aug 2020 14:08    Post subject:
MishkiN wrote:
Like most things I enjoyed in my youth, nostalgia has most likely amplified that experience in my memory. The original has one of the most impactful stories and had one of the strongest connections with the protagonist. However, it wasn't without its faults i.e. the world could've been more atmospheric, exploration wasn't rewarded etc.

Putting those memories aside and judging what little I've seen from the remake. This looks very polished and a lot more atmospheric in terms of capturing that era. Whether or not I will warm to the characters is yet to be seen. Knowing how the story ends will probably mean that I won't be as engaged, but that won't be the fault of the developers design choices.


Nostalgia for the original has nothing to do with the derp gameplay in the remake. You have the great story, setting, characters and music from the original that will elevate the remake to be above average. And everything else they borrowed from Mafia 3 that will sink it. Press R to ram the bad guy's car. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2020 03:37    Post subject:


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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2020 08:03    Post subject:
The system requirements are out:

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Minimum requirements

OS: Windows 10 64-bit
Intel CPU: i5-2500K
AMD CPU: AMD FX-8120
RAM: 6GB
AMD GPU: Radeon R9 280X
Nvidia GPU: GeForce GTX 770
Video Memory: 2GB
HDD: 50GB (Free space)

Recommended requirements

OS: Windows 10 64-bit
Intel CPU: i7-3770
AMD CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHZ
RAM: 16GB
AMD GPU: Radeon RX 5700
Nvidia GPU: GeForce GTX 1080
Video Memory: 4GB
HDD: 50GB (Free space)
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2020 09:24    Post subject:
I highly doubt this would be good enough PC to run it.
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bronson




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2020 10:40    Post subject:
One of the reviewers said it runs better than Mafia 3 on the same pc, so a 770 is enough for 1080p on low-medium settings.
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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Sep 2020 16:51    Post subject:


Another short trailer.
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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Sep 2020 18:48    Post subject:


Pre-load supposedly on the 22nd.*

*my bad Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Sep 2020 22:31    Post subject:
Ke1N wrote:
Pre-load supposedly on the 22nd.


Fixed Razz


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