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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 02:05    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 02:28    Post subject:
cant u just download win10 iso put to usb stick and insert the win7 pro key during install ?
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 03:22    Post subject:
Yes.
Also once you got an account, you just install and log in to your account with the next build/install.


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 07:10    Post subject:
Update

I put my windows 7 pro key in, said it failed try again later. Rebooted my computer for an update, message pops up saying they are adding features, now have windows 10 pro Very Happy

Thanks for the tip

I also updated the bios to 2407 today, that Noctua looks interesting.
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 08:26    Post subject:
Ok, Boiler just gave me a window to ask my laughable question: Did anyone here ran Windows 7 with one of the ryzen's? Laughing
Have a windows 7 partition (it just plays better with older gamebryo stuff, at least when running a i5-4690K that's definitely the case) that has both heavily modded oblivion and FONV installed, and while FONV would be fairly easy to "move" to the win10 partition (MO2) OB's would be a fucking nightmare since it's all wrye bashed.

So after upgrading MB+CPU+RAM in the future, how likely would my win7 partition even be able to boot, assuming that the ryzen won't just point at it, laugh and tell me to fuck off? Very Happy


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 16:08    Post subject:
it will boot in safe mode for sure, just install the amd chipset drivers first when u do and ur all good to go

i have been using same boot drives in intel and amd machines randomly without isseus.
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 17:48    Post subject:
If you are upgrading the MB, just be normal and reinstall Windows. But then there really shouldn't be any good reasons for someone not to upgrade to Win 10, it's 2020 damnit


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 17:55    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
If you are upgrading the MB, just be normal and reinstall Windows. But then there really shouldn't be any good reasons for someone not to upgrade to Win 10, it's 2020 damnit
Dual boot


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 18:08    Post subject:
You can dual boot Win10 and Linux too. If dualbooting is your thing.


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 19:45    Post subject:
On loonix those games would likely run even worse than on W10 Razz


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 20:03    Post subject:
Razz


Is there really a performance difference between W7 and W10?


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 22:05    Post subject:
On the Gamebryo engine, yeah a little bit.
I'm sure there's some other stuff out there that can perform better on W7.


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 22:17    Post subject:
Think it's mostly for older CPU's though. I would/will be surprised if the difference is still there when I'm running those games with a 3900x or so. My main reason for even attempting it is that somehow moving that modded oblivion onto Win10 would be a pain in the ass, it took aaaaaaaages to set up and fine tune Sad


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 22:53    Post subject:
Now that is a reason I can understand. All these hours of modding just wasted. Dayum... Surprised


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 23:42    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jul 2020 02:23    Post subject:
Continuing my Ryzen transformation. Picked up the new HP ENVY x360 13" 4700U (8 core) today. Dream machine to replace my tablet, which it will, rather nicely Wink Gonna replace the NVMe drive though, as it's performance is lacking. Beautiful screen, and a fuckin beast for its size Smile, all for under a grand. We have come a long way.

If you get it direct from HP, which I did, they are doing a good deal of throwing in the '3 year pick up and return warranty' for nothing (usually £100) + a certain voucher code which I found, which also knocks £50 off the total, so £950.00 delivered Smile Steal!
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jul 2020 03:03    Post subject:
Yeah, gotta say that HP Envy looked rather great for the price.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2020 04:21    Post subject:
Morphineus wrote:
Yeah, gotta say that HP Envy looked rather great for the price.


Arrived today.

Beast, it really is, for the size, and fan is pretty good on full. Loaded with utter shit, as per usual, but more so with HP. So, shit on top of shit. Spent the night making a less shitless copy of 2004 in NTLite, gonna shove that on in morning. McAfee Firewall/Internet Security/System Protection + Windows Firewall/Defender/Malware Protection + HP Security Center all installed and running, lol, WTF!?? Do they think I work for the Pentagon? I know I now got 8 cores on my laptop, but could I at least have one of them free?

/start RANT

I also see MS never stops it sneaky tricks. Unit came with Win10 Home, and they have stopped users from using a 'local' account on that version, and 'MUST' use an MS one! No longer is the option to skip, or anything. Fuckin cunts! Preying on the weak and unwary, as that is the user base for 'home', so they get away with it. Had to look it up, but it can be solved by disconnecting router, so when the screen comes up for creating the account, it says 'something went wrong', and lets you create a local one eventually. No, something went right fuckwits! Smile

Upgraded to Pro once in, with the many Technet Win7 keys I have, so will no longer have that problem, as this doesn't happen on Pro, for now.

HP made it rather hard to access the unit, a bastard in fact, which gave me problems from the off. The rear top 3 screws are Philips, but covered by a long strip of rubber, which serves as one of the back feet, the bottom one can be left untouched. Peeling this off carefully was not easy, and getting it back was worse, as it had stretched while peeling, so is now too long to fit. Had to rig a bypass circuit and trim it, but I can see it coming away with little use. 2 Torx screws sit below front rubber strip, so no problems there. Spudgers galore to prise the cover off, as it's tight, real tight, (5 in there at the same time before it started giving) and if you use metal, you will fuck the cover. Why the fuck do they do that? Just to be a cunt?, like MS? Evil or Very Mad

Got NVMe drive replaced OK, but because original had a single chip on it, the 970 Pro was thicker, so heat sink bent up at one end - FFS!!! Mad Got around problem by wrapping Kapton tape around drive and sink, at one end, to allow it to sit flush once screwed in.

All good and running well, but a FUCKIN PAIN IN THE ASS!!!

/end RANT.


Gettin too old for this nonsense.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2020 13:22    Post subject:
If only there was a opensource alternative out there where you didn't put up with garbage spyware to use your machine.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2020 15:39    Post subject:
You can make local account, but you need to make sure you are not connected to internet.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2020 19:52    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
Morphineus wrote:
Yeah, gotta say that HP Envy looked rather great for the price.


Arrived today.

Beast, it really is, for the size, and fan is pretty good on full. Loaded with utter shit, as per usual, but more so with HP. So, shit on top of shit. Spent the night making a less shitless copy of 2004 in NTLite, gonna shove that on in morning. McAfee Firewall/Internet Security/System Protection + Windows Firewall/Defender/Malware Protection + HP Security Center all installed and running, lol, WTF!?? Do they think I work for the Pentagon? I know I now got 8 cores on my laptop, but could I at least have one of them free?

/start RANT

I also see MS never stops it sneaky tricks. Unit came with Win10 Home, and they have stopped users from using a 'local' account on that version, and 'MUST' use an MS one! No longer is the option to skip, or anything. Fuckin cunts! Preying on the weak and unwary, as that is the user base for 'home', so they get away with it. Had to look it up, but it can be solved by disconnecting router, so when the screen comes up for creating the account, it says 'something went wrong', and lets you create a local one eventually. No, something went right fuckwits! Smile

Upgraded to Pro once in, with the many Technet Win7 keys I have, so will no longer have that problem, as this doesn't happen on Pro, for now.

HP made it rather hard to access the unit, a bastard in fact, which gave me problems from the off. The rear top 3 screws are Philips, but covered by a long strip of rubber, which serves as one of the back feet, the bottom one can be left untouched. Peeling this off carefully was not easy, and getting it back was worse, as it had stretched while peeling, so is now too long to fit. Had to rig a bypass circuit and trim it, but I can see it coming away with little use. 2 Torx screws sit below front rubber strip, so no problems there. Spudgers galore to prise the cover off, as it's tight, real tight, (5 in there at the same time before it started giving) and if you use metal, you will fuck the cover. Why the fuck do they do that? Just to be a cunt?, like MS? Evil or Very Mad

Got NVMe drive replaced OK, but because original had a single chip on it, the 970 Pro was thicker, so heat sink bent up at one end - FFS!!! Mad Got around problem by wrapping Kapton tape around drive and sink, at one end, to allow it to sit flush once screwed in.

All good and running well, but a FUCKIN PAIN IN THE ASS!!!

/end RANT.


Gettin too old for this nonsense.

I also thought of getting that but I guess I'll go for the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 14". Maybe even the 4500u. It has less cores but a higher base clock.


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jul 2020 09:20    Post subject:
That's my boy (4690K)! No 3900x comparisons though Sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jul 2020 00:45    Post subject:


intel is soo fucked, 7nm delayed to 2023
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jul 2020 11:45    Post subject:
https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/intel-changes-technology-organization/


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jul 2020 14:24    Post subject:
oh no stock prices went down, lets make some blabla press release how we still care Razz

continues limiting budget boards, fuck em , hope their stock plummets
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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Aug 2020 12:15    Post subject:
https://videocardz.com/newz/report-amd-ryzen-9-4950x-5950x-engineering-sample-boosts-up-to-4-8-ghz


https://www.techpowerup.com/270706/intel-preparing-avengers-branded-ka-processors?amp

Not a bad way to make them even more powerful. Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Aug 2020 17:53    Post subject:
Mm'yeah. I'm sure looking like clowns will help them. Razz


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Reaction Whats next, My Little Pony branded ones?
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