Command & Conquer Remaster Collection (EA+Petroglyph)
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 07:43    Post subject:
mand what a world.... EA of all things manages to do proper remaster soon after Blizz absolutely destroys theirs


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 09:46    Post subject:
What i like the most is no origin on steam version, no fucking ea logo (there is an old one at the bottom) and the usage of the Westwood logo Smile ITs really well done.

Kudos to the old team.

Also got my ass kicked in MP, not used to the old mechanics like few resources etc.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 09:48    Post subject:
23 GB wut
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 10:02    Post subject:
As allready stated before, most is Audio and Video stuff which is lots due the big library with cut and never before seen content that got added.

I am kinda sad that they didnt improve the pathfinding atleast a little.

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5GB for the Textures, didnt thought its that much.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 10:02    Post subject:
15GB are movie files, 5GB Textures
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 10:09    Post subject:
DaLexy wrote:
What i like the most is no origin on steam version, no fucking ea logo (there is an old one at the bottom) and the usage of the Westwood logo Smile ITs really well done.

Kudos to the old team.

Also got my ass kicked in MP, not used to the old mechanics like few resources etc.


yep forgot about origin, thought i would have to install that garbage, fortunately not.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 10:14    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
DaLexy wrote:
What i like the most is no origin on steam version, no fucking ea logo (there is an old one at the bottom) and the usage of the Westwood logo Smile ITs really well done.

Kudos to the old team.

Also got my ass kicked in MP, not used to the old mechanics like few resources etc.


yep forgot about origin, thought i would have to install that garbage, fortunately not.

you will find another reason to hate it, im 100% sure Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 11:10    Post subject:
There is always a reason to hate an EA game nowadays. Wait 1-2 months until they put in the in-game store for "improved user experience"...
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 11:36    Post subject:
What could you possibly sell in this game?

They included everything, including source code...

and mod support...

So stop hating and just be happy for once we get what we wanted...
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 11:41    Post subject:
Glorious how far we've come in 25 years.

Now do RA2.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 11:43    Post subject:
I rather have Generals first Smile RA2 has aged nice enough, but Generals looks like shit on modern screens. It has that "early low poly 3d" sickness.

This looks amazing imho:



and this... not so much Smile

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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 11:53    Post subject:
Generals would be nice, some flashy 3d engine with top-notch graphics.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 15:08    Post subject:
As I feared. The FMVs are terrible. (I knew that they used AI upscale for the rework so no surprises on that) It's worse than what they showed in the trailers, and not just a bit.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 19:03    Post subject:
Nah, FMV's are fine with what they are based on the source they had from 25 years ago.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 19:20    Post subject:
Absolutely fine, considering it's like 600x400 interlaced source lol.

But yeah, haters gonna hate

WHY NO 4K VIDEO!
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 20:32    Post subject:
i guess i must admit that EA has done something good once in a decade (even if its just giving the ok for the Remaster).

Timeline i wish for:

RA2/Tibsun Remaster
Generals Remake (newer version of SAGE)
Tiberian Twilight REMAKE (completly redo it)

Rest is still fine IMHO.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 20:45    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
Absolutely fine, considering it's like 600x400 interlaced source lol.

But yeah, haters gonna hate

WHY NO 4K VIDEO!


Hate?

It had to be a very hard decision to go ahead with the movies like this.
It really adds zero improvement over the source material, ok maybe the interpolation does.
Of course I already knew -when they announced the remaster years ago- that they probably won't have the source footage, since they lost a bunch of stuff during the studio move.

Still I might have canceled the remasters due to this, but thats just my approach: either doing a proper remaster or just let it go.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 20:48    Post subject:
This is a proper remaster, what the fuck are you talking about?

Videos are fine... you would cancel the whole game, because of that, lol?

Yeah, no, you are not hating for hate sake, aren't you ^^

Just glad this didn't get delayed because of those nasty demonstrations, hein?
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 20:58    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
This is a proper remaster, what the fuck are you talking about?

Videos are fine... you would cancel the whole game, because of that, lol?

Yeah, no, you are not hating for hate sake, aren't you ^^

Just glad this didn't get delayed because of those nasty demonstrations, hein?


Yes, probably, I'm really on the balance between canceling and going ahead, that is why I have stated that it must have been difficult for the team to make the decision.

It's not hate, it's more like a letdown. And I know they did what they could, still it's a bit sad to know that the source material is probably lost forever.

And yes I'm glad that it didn't got delayed since it has nothing to do with the game Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 00:20    Post subject:


Forgot how good the music was! Very Happy



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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 00:36    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
This is a proper remaster, what the fuck are you talking about?

Videos are fine... you would cancel the whole game, because of that, lol?

Yeah, no, you are not hating for hate sake, aren't you ^^

Just glad this didn't get delayed because of those nasty demonstrations, hein?


Its just a quick cash grab.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 01:20    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
What could you possibly sell in this game?

They included everything, including source code...

and mod support...

So stop hating and just be happy for once we get what we wanted...


Greediness can find a way. US skins, new voice packs. units skins, whatever. It's hard and probably won't happen but EA rarely fails to amaze with their scummy practices.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 01:35    Post subject:
jaapie18 wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
This is a proper remaster, what the fuck are you talking about?

Videos are fine... you would cancel the whole game, because of that, lol?

Yeah, no, you are not hating for hate sake, aren't you ^^

Just glad this didn't get delayed because of those nasty demonstrations, hein?


Its just a quick cash grab.


Euhm... no?
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 05:24    Post subject:
As much as I'm fond of this remaster, I do wish C&C had been updated with some modern features though. In particular rally points for constructed units and the attack move command. I think those additions wouldn't have impacted the game too much whilst still keeping it faithful to the original.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 05:55    Post subject:
At the end of the day, no cunt is gonna be happy with anything Wink Remember the days past, as they are never the same today, or tomorrow Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 07:25    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
jaapie18 wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
This is a proper remaster, what the fuck are you talking about?

Videos are fine... you would cancel the whole game, because of that, lol?

Yeah, no, you are not hating for hate sake, aren't you ^^

Just glad this didn't get delayed because of those nasty demonstrations, hein?


Its just a quick cash grab.


Euhm... no?


Ignore them. Hate is strong with those guys. They expected C&C 5 out of this Remaster.


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 09:58    Post subject:
Used to run C&C in my net cafe last century it was popular but I didn't get far into it, (too much energy just tryin to keep everyone going sharing a 512 kb/sec microwave wan connection) so I thought I would check to see what the hump said about the remaster.
No surprises that even tho many approve, nearly as many disapprove over some inconsequential issue. FMV ffs So humpy!

I'll give it a go to see if old age as mellowed me to the merits of strategy.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 10:12    Post subject:
dethy wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
jaapie18 wrote:


Its just a quick cash grab.


Euhm... no?


Ignore them. Hate is strong with those guys. They expected C&C 5 out of this Remaster.


Nah i dont like strategy games.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 13:20    Post subject:
I just completed the original series a few months ago so I can safely say that this is a really good and proper remaster.
No hand-holding, no annoying pop-ups etc. Just hardcore CnC.

The videos are good considering the source. Whoever said that they are shit, hasn't played the original game on modern system. 320 res on even FHD display is abyssmal and the upscaled videos look vastly better.

Oh and people who like to "hurr-durr, EA will add mtx or whatever" can eat a bag off dicks Smile
This collection is 20€ and they used all the original assets and mechanics (even the shitty pathfinding) AND added proper mod-support with public source code. For this they can add cosmetic stuff later Smile
The core playerbase will never buy them and casual gamers whou would pay for shit like that, are too soft to handle games like this.


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