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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2018 19:57    Post subject:
I don't know how advanced the techs used are, but even 720p content looks good enough on an lg 65 inch (2017 series).

Can the internal netflix app on the lg oleds stream 4k hdr over wifi?
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2018 20:14    Post subject:
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Can the internal netflix app on the lg oleds stream 4k hdr over wifi?

Yes. The bitrate requirement for Netflix isn't very high; it requires 25mbps for a 4K Dolby Vision stream.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2018 20:15    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
I have a questn.

Do all those new fancy pancy high technology TV have some kind of builtin "madVR" renderer features to improve image quality?

You know, internal dithering for de-blocking and such most typical MPEG and h264 artefacts as well as chroma- and luma-upsampling and advanced shit like dat?

You really want your TV to do all that? Just connect a small PC there (you have one, no?) and use madVR. Just make sure your GPU has HDMI 2.0a/b output.

The LG has noise reduction as well as MPEG noise reduction, but it leads to detail loss, which is not recommended. Just get a better source.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2018 21:37    Post subject:
Non-4K Netflix is a big shite. They have lowered the bitrate very low. The 1080p web rips on the internets are from the 4K stream because that one is not as much starved, so I suggest you use that. If you have a 4K, I suggest paying for the 4K tier, sadly. I upgraded today to see the difference, and it's really there. 4K is starved too, but not as much.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Jul 2018 18:06    Post subject:
Took the xe900 back and got the xf900, found an amazing deal at Emag, only 100e more than the xe. Total was around 1150 euros. Should be a nice upgrade in nits plus dolby vision support.

Ok this one is way better for HDR and for only 100e more wow.

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Tried dolby vision netflix shows and omfg, even better than normal hdr10. Too bad it doesnt support dv over hdmi and usb, then again dv content doesnt seem to be able to be ripped.


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Mar 2019 23:28    Post subject:
So,bought the b8 as well. Was decently priced (55inch - 1200euros ) and i wanted to try out oled as well. After having the xf900 and ks8500 to compare to, there is nothing to compare to. Sure, the xf might be able to go brighter overall but because of the incredible contrast with the lg the latter will ‘seem’ brighter and look better. The colors will be pure ( no white contamination ).Been comparing them for the last 3 days... only downside is ofc because of burnin i gotta go back to working at the desk instead of the couch but whatevs. I’m gonna game/watch movies on it,whilel SO besides the movies will most likely watch tv shows ( thankfully the 2 channels have transparent white logos, so should be ...’ok’ compared to some cnn red ones, told her about the issues but dont want to make her feel uncomfortable using the tv.

Anyway just thought this might help some people decide between oled and led from someone who was scared of oled burnin, then again even if it ‘goes bad’ in a year or two imo its worth it. All content was HDR10 btw as well as dolby vision (netflix)


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Mar 2019 02:09    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
told her about the issues but dont want to make her feel uncomfortable using the tv.


I explained burn in to my family the very first day but they didn't get it. They are constantly leaving static images on the screen. I decided to enable the power saving feature which lower the brightness and I only turn that setting off when I'm watching something I want the full experience with.

They can't even tell the power saving feature is on. I recommend you try using it that way for a few weeks and see how it goes.
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th May 2019 12:29    Post subject:
Any ideas how important HDMI 2.1 will be in the upcoming years? The biggest benefit seems to be for gaming, but I doubt even the next gen of consoles will make full use of it (except VRR maybe). I assume 4K at 120fps won't be a target for the next gen consoles.

Any use in investing ~500 euros more for a newer model OLED (C8 vs. C9)? I use a TV for about 5-6 years.
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th May 2019 14:47    Post subject:
If you use a TV for 5-6 years, wouldn't you agree that 500 euros is not that much in the grand scheme of things? I think the benefits here are worth it; dynamic HDR metadata, inmediate switch between modes (DV -> SDR -> HDR10 -> DV), variable refresh rate, etc.
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th May 2019 15:03    Post subject:
Quick googling reveals that they appear to have further tweaked the sub pixel structure, meaning larger areas, which makes them more efficient and or brighter and should reduce burn in risk. If differences with the latter are significant is almost impossible to tell, but hey Wink

I use a 2018 panel as my sole PC monitor, btw. Very dark settings though.


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th May 2019 18:39    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
If you use a TV for 5-6 years, wouldn't you agree that 500 euros is not that much in the grand scheme of things? I think the benefits here are worth it; dynamic HDR metadata, inmediate switch between modes (DV -> SDR -> HDR10 -> DV), variable refresh rate, etc.

Dynamic HDR metadata is not available with current HDMI bandwidth?
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Sep 2019 22:50    Post subject:
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Let's hope they'll get used to the Wii-Remote style handling. Laughing

You should be able to use them normally if you want
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Sep 2019 07:54    Post subject:
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As far as im concerned its totally random if people understand control schemes or not, so good luck. Maybe replace their phones while you're at it so you dont get called if things dont work out Cool Face


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LG Magic Remote is very good to use as a normal remote.


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https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/lg-gsync-compatible-hdmi-big-screen-gaming/


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Sep 2019 10:53    Post subject:
Let me guess, will cost 10K €.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Sep 2019 11:36    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Let me guess, will cost 10K €.

would be weird for lg
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Sep 2019 11:40    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Let me guess, will cost 10K €.


LG E9 and C9 doesnt cost that much.

Eg. A while ago 55C9 was 1499€ in Finland. Not a bad price for pretty much the best 55" TV in overal you can buy atm.




Now try to find alternative gaming monitor which has G-Sync, HDR, 120Hz panel, 4K resolution and it happens to be OLED as well. Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd May 2020 16:31    Post subject:
I ordered the LG 65C9, the new CX doesn't seem to offer much more except some software tweaks and I'd have to pay 400 euros more for it (600-200 rebate). I have a question regarding playing HDR x265 files on this TV. Is it as simple as buy a NAS (probably Synology DS218+), download a x265 4K HDR movie, open mkv with internal media player and enjoy? I assume I have to use Plex? I know something like a Shield is very good, but I don't want any other devices really.
Are x265 rips of UHD bluray discs good? They seem to vary between 20-40 gigs, seems tiny. I know it's new and sexy compared to ancient x264, but are the files not compressed to shit?

The 2020 LG OLED TV's don't even have a passthrough option for DTS btw, weird. I understand no license is no DTS, but I didn't know you can't even touch the bits without a license.
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd May 2020 19:01    Post subject:
Cant answer directly, but my experience at least hints towards a good possibility that HDR could be easy.
I'm using MPC-BE with madVR as the video render with an Nvidia RTX with a panasonic OLED (also LGD screen) and I had to do nothing for HDR to work. It actually caught me off guard, because when HDR mode of the TV is engaged SDR content is distorted to hell and back with regards to colour Very Happy. When I close the player everything switches back automatically as well.


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd May 2020 22:00    Post subject:
@Mister_s you can use the internal player (it even supports subtitles) or the webos Plex app. I have Plex media server running on my PC and I'm streaming 4k hdr without any issues


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PostPosted: Mon, 4th May 2020 08:38    Post subject:
Thanks guys. Is Whathifi a reliable tv review site? According to them there's a clear difference between C9 and GX in PQ. Now I'm thinking of cancelling the order Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th May 2020 09:11    Post subject:
Glanced at two TV reviews by them and see no measurements. Then found this in the LG review

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Having calibrated both the GX and C9 using a THX Optimizer disc ,[...]

No, i don't think they are reliable. That isn't a calibration. That is eyeballing using a pattern. Since we have much better tools to evaluate screens objectively, a review needs to use them, otherwise we venture into a very subjective territory where almost any outcome of a review is possible.

link to the review: https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/lg-oled65gx
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