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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 06:44    Post subject:
Kommando wrote:
_SiN_ wrote:
Hehe, well the "head" part was an exaggeration, i´m just saying that they are unbelievable hard to kill, most of the time. Even my dad who watched me play today pointed out that they seemed very hard to kill Razz


Took me 27 bullets on chest to kill a guy up close..well most of them...anyway i played all the game so far with my rifles set to single shot..always aiming for the head


Come on now, did you really sit there and count to 27, I'm seriously thinking no.


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Kommando




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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 08:00    Post subject:
sTo0z wrote:
Kommando wrote:
_SiN_ wrote:
Hehe, well the "head" part was an exaggeration, i´m just saying that they are unbelievable hard to kill, most of the time. Even my dad who watched me play today pointed out that they seemed very hard to kill Razz


Took me 27 bullets on chest to kill a guy up close..well most of them...anyway i played all the game so far with my rifles set to single shot..always aiming for the head


Come on now, did you really sit there and count to 27, I'm seriously thinking no.


i was just reloading my gun (50 bullets) when he pop up in front of me in one of those farm house... so yeah i can count since 50 bullets full --> 23 bullets left when he died = 27 bullets to kill him.

Anyway everyone agree that if its not a Head shot or a sniper kill...it takes way too many bullets to kill...and those fucks with the hockey mask or even worst to kill...up to 2 full clip sometimes
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spykE_e




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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 08:55    Post subject:
Who said the game was all about realism? Please people, Criterion Games nor EA did.
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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 09:44    Post subject:
The soldiers have body armor inside their faces Smile


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Kommando




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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 10:10    Post subject:
Elazul wrote:
The soldiers have body armor inside their faces Smile


I know....but no face armor in the world will stand against AK-47 bullets
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Nailbiter
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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 11:07    Post subject:
spykE_e wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
For me, this game didn't live up to the hype. It's short, the enemies are rather stupid, there is essentially no storyline, the cutscenes are lame and cannot be skipped and I killed the two bosses without even realising it.

But, the technology behind the game (graphics, destruction, physics, loading) is fantastic. Kind of like farcry in a way. But it's not even in the same league as HL2.

7/10 for me.


Lol no story? Lame cutscenes? Dude try to get yourself INTO the story, not standing aside of it.

are you serious?

the story was THE worst story ever! i hated that i couldnt skip the crap and had to go away and do something else for a couple of minutes.
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spykE_e




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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 13:55    Post subject:
Lol, well I'm not saying that it's superb, but it's not bullshit either o.O
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 14:03    Post subject:
it doesnt have to be realistic, but takin a whole clip for a single enemy is just too ridiculous.
why do you think people incorporate realism and physics into the games?
because theyre more fun when they have a fundamental connection to reality, plus its an fps game, you cant evade and do sommersaults and shit like in the arcadey games where you need a whole clip to kill an enemy - its more justified there.


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spykE_e




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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 14:07    Post subject:
D_A_Kuja wrote:
it doesnt have to be realistic, but takin a whole clip for a single enemy is just too ridiculous.
why do you think people incorporate realism and physics into the games?
because theyre more fun when they have a fundamental connection to reality, plus its an fps game, you cant evade and do sommersaults and shit like in the arcadey games where you need a whole clip to kill an enemy - its more justified there.


I thought I heard you saying a few pages ago that you don't have the game yet? You own a PS2 right? Why the hell are you bsing about 1 clip? No shit, I have never used one clip to take down an enemy, not at one single weapon. The guy who said that few pages ago really can't aim. You can also choose if you wanna put your weapon on burst or single shot? Why did they implement that huh? To get killed for not spraying enough with your gun? Think twice.
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 18:47    Post subject:
The shotgun guys can take a full clip to the chest from an automatic weapon. You can shoot them at close range so you don't miss. Try using the MP5 or Mac10.

But then again, when an M16 somehow holds 100 bullets in a clip, it sort of evens out. Laughing


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spykE_e




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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 21:32    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
The shotgun guys can take a full clip to the chest from an automatic weapon. You can shoot them at close range so you don't miss. Try using the MP5 or Mac10.

But then again, when an M16 somehow holds 100 bullets in a clip, it sort of evens out. Laughing


Well you are right, but those are the only ones. I guess they have truely heavy armor, with the mask covering their face etc. But you can kill them by twice pulling out your shotgun if you aim well.
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 21:59    Post subject:
Well what I do is shoot them until they fall on the floor and then run up and hit them with a melee attack. Job done. Although this isn't always an option. Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 23:36    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
Well what I do is shoot them until they fall on the floor and then run up and hit them with a melee attack. Job done. Although this isn't always an option. Smile



Never thought of that one, I usually fire on them until they drop then kill some other peeps and then go back and kills him as he rises.



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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 00:00    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
Well what I do is shoot them until they fall on the floor and then run up and hit them with a melee attack. Job done. Although this isn't always an option. Smile


Yep, i do the same whenever possible too.


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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 13:56    Post subject:
well i dunno people, i m just playing the ps2 version right now and it doesnt seem as arcadey as described in here at all.
1 headshot kills, 1 shotgun chest-shot mid-range, 4-5 ak chest-shots.
this is nowhere near a whole clip, i m playing on normal mode btw.
maybe the xbox version is a beta or something, but this is clearly different than described in this thread.


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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 15:05    Post subject:
I've also playd the ps2 version now and damn, it's awesome and runs sooooo good and looks sooooo awesome (just as I said it would). Smile
And as you said Kuja, 1 shot to the head kills, all the time, and 1 shotgun from midrange etc. Maybe you guys THINK you aimed at the head but in fact didn't? Wink
Normal difficulty.

Best fps ever, in my opinion, and all because of the spectacular explosions and destruction. If this game had none of this (meaning it would be like the rest) then it would be just another boring fps.
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Elazul




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 15:48    Post subject:
Just tried the Ps2 version also and it surprises me, the Version on Ps2 is _BETTER_ than the one on Xbox, clearer, crisper graphics and support for Dolby Pro Logic 2.


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jonels
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 16:01    Post subject:
Elazul wrote:
Just tried the Ps2 version also and it surprises me, the Version on Ps2 is _BETTER_ than the one on Xbox, clearer, crisper graphics and support for Dolby Pro Logic 2.


LOL.. and wow, I will down it later and see if your right.


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Krille666




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 16:40    Post subject:
Damn! I sent my PS2 to a place where they're gonna install a modchip, gosh! I can't wait, i should get it this week and damn! It sounds like i'm gonna have fun playing this game 24/7 + Shadow of the colossus + RE4! Totally offtopic...
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 16:49    Post subject:
its a really fun game, but i m at the mine field mission now, and this one is kinda annoying, it resets you back to the beginning of the mission if you screw up accidentally, a bit frustrating.


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 17:37    Post subject:
does the PAL ps2 have a NTSC selector?
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spykE_e




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 17:39    Post subject:
D_A_Kuja wrote:
well i dunno people, i m just playing the ps2 version right now and it doesnt seem as arcadey as described in here at all.
1 headshot kills, 1 shotgun chest-shot mid-range, 4-5 ak chest-shots.
this is nowhere near a whole clip, i m playing on normal mode btw.
maybe the xbox version is a beta or something, but this is clearly different than described in this thread.


The one who said that couldn't aim I guess. I already quoted you for saying you were totally wrong about that one clip per enemy.

And about the mine field thing. Just kill everyone you see first before entering it. Go hide in those huts, you'll get there. Just try a few times Smile.

Btw I'm at the 6th or 7th level now, the Graznei bridge or how do you call it. Once you are at the end of it. What you do to get over it? Those fuking mines on the bridge always kill me, and no I'm not shooting. Fukking irritating. Already tried four times maybe, always the same, and you can't leave the bridge by going under it through some hole or smth. Please help me Smile.
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 19:35    Post subject:
first time I regret not having a ps2 because the xbox version plain sucks for me. I ahave given up on the game in level 2. I got to the border then get killed. Tried it on easy and it was just too easy, so crap!!!
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 19:41    Post subject:
D_A_Kuja wrote:
well i dunno people, i m just playing the ps2 version right now and it doesnt seem as arcadey as described in here at all.
1 headshot kills, 1 shotgun chest-shot mid-range, 4-5 ak chest-shots.
this is nowhere near a whole clip, i m playing on normal mode btw.
maybe the xbox version is a beta or something, but this is clearly different than described in this thread.


Yeah, everything you describe is the same in the xbox version, but thats just the first few missions with the normal grunts.

Wait until you get later in the game, and you're fighting the shotgun guys. Thats where it takes the piss.


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 20:18    Post subject:
I completed the game earlier on as well, would agree with those that said the game is a little on the short side, wouldn't say im an especially great gamer so its a surprise when you complete a game on Normal mode in 4 hours 32 minutes dieing in total around 6 times from start of the game to finish 2 of those times coming on that annoying last level in the final room with the spawning shotgun, riot shield/magnum and M249 guys.

I also agree with those that commented on there being nothing wrong with the headshots actually hitting with a single bullet. I found as I played the game I got better and better at picking the guys off from range and judging how far to lead the target, finishing the game with a ratio of almost 1/6 of my kills coming from headshots. That probably could have been alot higher had I not started using the Shotgun heavily at the end of the game just for ease and also been into the idea of killing people in mass using chain explosions by shooting anything that looks like it would explode for the first 2-3 levels.

Overall an enjoyable game, certainly a treat for the eyes and ears but perhaps let down by the length and lack of multiplayer. The Graznei bridge level was my favourite of the lot just loved the combo of the M16 and grenade launcher plus the different tiers of the bridge, the minefield and standoff/shootout at the end. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 20:37    Post subject:
Dammit, wanna play too... Waiting for this damn game the whole day and still got a low speed serv and the game @ approx. 35% Sad

Wont be able to play it this night, maybe just at tomorrow morning Sad

U LUCKY GUYS.....

Are there any extras to unlock?
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StarShine




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 21:13    Post subject:
If my memory serves me correctly in easy you unlock nothing, for completing the game in normal mode you unlock "Silver" weapons which can be used in easy and normal mode as Nailbiter already said. Beyond that I would guess for completing in hard mode you unlock Black ops mode and "Gold" weapons??, for completing Black Ops you unlock "Platinum" weapons?? Im sure you'll get some more official info on that from either gamefaqs or one of the official forums. Maybe seeing as its an EA published game they'll be some gold teeth in it as an unlockable?

I thought that there might have been some other extra stuff to unlock in the form of Criterion company info/trivia/media and videos because when your playing through the game sometimes you'll destroy one of the safes, pick up a dossier or plans etc and it'll say something like destroyed "Burnout technology secrets" or located "contact details for Criterion team" where as the usual secondary objectives that you uncover would say stuff like located "schematics of unknown US city" or "located plans to contaminate UK water system".

I guess all of the stuff about Burnout and Criterion contained within the secondary objectives is just there as humour though. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 21:34    Post subject:
I have a question. Got it for ps2 right now, and one weird thing I'm wondering if you all are experiencing.. When I tap the stick to move a short while and release it I like "glide" very slowly at the direction. It's like I have soap on my feet instead of shoes.. Annoying as hell.
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 22:08    Post subject:
It's because of the analog stick, it still detects the movement in that direction when you release the analog stick, so just position it better. Smile
This do not happen on all pads, but if it does, this is the reason. So it's not a game error.
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Xirius




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 22:15    Post subject:
Thought so, but I haven't had any problems like this before, so maybe the game is just very very sensitive or something.. It's quite hard to actually stand still for some reason.
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