Resident Evil 3 (thRE3make)
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2020 23:16    Post subject:
Just encountered my first hunter beta. I emptied 3? magazines on it and it still killed me Crying or Very sad Need to take a break


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2020 23:18    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Just encountered my first hunter beta. I emptied 3? magazines on it and it still killed me Crying or Very sad Need to take a break


They are a bitch even on standard. I found flash grenades are quite effective against them.
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2020 23:45    Post subject:
Well, I only have 1. Razz

Man, there are things like this that elevate this game despite its shortcomings. We haven't seen hunters this difficult and scary since RE1 and their 1 hit kill.

I'm actually finding this game a much better sequel to RE1/make than RE2/make (not talking about quality here, but story continuity), in the sense it references the mansion incident, the original characters, the files detail the aftermath of that event, and you live the consequences.

I would call this game a direct sequel to RE1 actually and would prefer to play REmake-RE3make back to back. I really like its story.

I liked original RE3's story as well, but I wouldn't call that a direct sequel to RE1, aside of Brad it didn't really reference the mansion incident or detail what happened afterwards like this.

Even simple changes, like the hospital being renamed "Spencer Memorial Hospital" in this, enrich the game's story with RE lore. Good stuff.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2020 01:03    Post subject:
8 hours and I'm now doing stuff in the labs, the final area. But that's enough for today. I'll finish it tomorrow.

edit: Or at least I think that's the labs on the way but I haven't reached them yet to say for sure. I'm somewhere underground in any case.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2020 06:39    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2020 08:48    Post subject:
https://twitter.com/everglaid_/status/1246011887994556422

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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2020 11:03    Post subject:
Nice selfie
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This Guy is a RE Speedrunner, He plays this Franchise since ages on a daily basis. So he knows what he is talking about IMHO.

tl;dw

He gives the Storymode a 9/10.
He misses the Cut areas but there are also new ones added, so it evens out.


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consolitis
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2020 12:56    Post subject:
If that's what he says I agree with him regarding the story mode, though I would normally not trust speed runners, because they would naturally rush Razz I will watch the video later.

The biggest cutback is to the puzzles, really.

Also, the design is less metroidvania than one would expect, there is still backtracking for sure, it's not push forward, but it's more like, let's say Half-Life: Alyx, if you've played that recently. Some backtracking to use an item to open a door, but it's not anywhere like the mansion or RPD.

But the streamlined design does wonders for the game's pacing. It's very focused, works really well. One of the best games in the series in this regard from what I've played so far, I would say.

And the story is better than original RE3. Most characters and relationships are way more fleshed out, and the story hooks with RE1 & 2 are also much better done. It feels like a proper wrapping up for the Arklay & Raccoon City trilogy.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2020 16:37    Post subject:
this has the same problem as re2 with color space right? srgb looks too washed out or dark scenes are grey and have to switch to rec 709


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consolitis
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2020 16:45    Post subject:
I find it's a bit better this time and wouldn't recommend 709 as it's too dark (I used both in RE2make, switching back and forth trying to make the game look better/visible, but not here).

Use these settings: https://www.resetera.com/threads/resident-evil-3-demo-comes-out-19th-march-resistance-open-beta-on-the-27th-ps4-xbox-pc.175369/page-36#post-30187568


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2020 16:49    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
this has the same problem as re2 with color space right? srgb looks too washed out or dark scenes are grey and have to switch to rec 709

It's not a problem. That's their weird design choice. In 709 it's weirdly dark


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2020 20:30    Post subject:
So I finished it.. and uh.. the back half of the game is not as good. Particularly the last two levels, hospital basement and the labs. They feel kinda empty, and the encounters with Nemesis are few and not that special. Ok, the final encounter is alright and I like very much the new battery gun ("it was cut lol wut" no it wasn't , it's redesigned)

Cutscene quality takes a huge nosedive. Crying or Very sad Lip syncing? What's that? Laughing

Jill and Carlos's relationship doesn't really continue to evolve, they barely exchange a few lines, and that's it.

Raccoon city's fatal moment (last cutscene) is a huge downgrade from the original..

Man, where did the budget go in the later half of the game? It's very clear they run out of budget compared to the earlier levels (which on their own were constrained, but overall fine).

Having said that, the lore of the last chapters continues to be great. The new locations, the new rail gun, the new files, make more sense than in the original game and enrich the mythos.

The only location I miss from the original is the Clock Tower. Everything else has a replacement etc. This is a non-issue (Clock Tower aside). You can argue about the complexity and scale of layouts, of course.

Playing time was fine. It took me 10 hours to complete including all deaths and restarts.



Now I can play on Nightmare with remixed enemy and item placement. I have heard that there are some nice surprises.

To conclude, a comparison between this and RE2make:

Production values: RE2make > RE3make
Writing: RE2make < RE3make
Boss fights: RE2make < RE3make
Better stalker monster: RE2make > RE3make (sadly, not because Nemesis was bad, he was fine, but he was severely underutilized in his pursuing form)
Metroidvania design: RE2make > RE3make
Replayability: RE2make > RE3make
Lore: RE2make < RE3make
Music: RE2make < RE3make (but RE2make with classic DLC soundtrack wins easily)
Authenticity to the original: RE2make > RE3make
New content compared to the respective original games: RE2make < RE3make
Connections to the rest of the franchise and continuity: RE2make < RE3make
Better story retelling compared to the respective original games: RE2make < RE3make (a lot of people will disagree because "the story is completely different", it's not, it's the same story, but retold from scratch).

Overall, I give RE2make an 8/10 and RE3make a 7/10. But as you can see, some stuff RE3make does them better. Alas, budget and time cut it short.

I think both games had further potential, imagine RE2make with proper A/B scenarios for example. But overall, RE2make is the more complete product of the two.

But of course there is also REsistance included in the package, and I was surprised from the open beta that it's actually somewhat fun. So if I play a few more weekends, not so bad of a deal.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2020 21:44    Post subject:
the srgb is not fixed, it looks fine at first but now that im back at the police station it looks very washed out, 709 looks good here exactly like with re2 without losing details


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2020 22:29    Post subject:
Can't say RE2make looked best on 709. Different areas looked better in one of the two settings. They probably authored in srgb but later raised the black level for some reason and you are compensating this with 709 to bring it down, but it's not really authored in 709.

Anyway, in this one, pretty sure you'll be back to srgb once you finish with the RPD and get back to content created for this game.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2020 22:41    Post subject:
One thing I do really like in RE3make is the unlocks shop where you can buy all sorts of interesting stuff for later playthroughs (with points from the challenges you complete).

I almost wish that was backported to RE2make.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2020 23:44    Post subject:
Nightmare difficulty is Well played Capcom. You have to be a dodge master Smile

It's not a mere "zombies have more health" difficulty. No, zombies are far larger in numbers, they run and lunge towards you, sometimes you die from just a single bite from fine, and many of them are replaced with parasite infected ones that have long range attacks.

How many bullets it takes to bring them down? Don't know, don't care to find out, you don't have the ammo for that, haha. Dodge!!

Sadly, I haven't figured out the timing of dodging the long range ones Sad

This is going to be a nightmare to beat Nemesis. Smile

I spent my points in the shop on Jill's RE1 costume and the Hot Dogger Laughing


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Apr 2020 02:26    Post subject:
https://twitter.com/rubex74/status/1246588870562627585

Man, I love how the OGs look in this game. Smile

Jill in her RE1 costume is perfect for RE1magine.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Apr 2020 13:09    Post subject:
Accidentally got the recovery item challenge on hardcore. The recovery medals combined with the defence medals and Chris's book on dodging make it pretty easy to achieve.
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Apr 2020 13:33    Post subject:
They seriously cheap out on this game.

Some of the textures look bad even on 4G-6G texture quality setting.

The lips work is terrible even during some of the cutscenes, the characters are just moving their mouths with no actual sync to the audio.

The good thing is that at the end of the day this is still Resident Evil. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Apr 2020 15:39    Post subject:
The texture quality setting has no difference between High 1gb and High 6gb.
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Apr 2020 15:47    Post subject:
H4wkeye wrote:
The texture quality setting has no difference between High 1gb and High 6gb.
This happened in RE2R too, unless you need to restart the game after changing it and they somehow don't mention that?


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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Apr 2020 15:54    Post subject:
H4wkeye wrote:
The texture quality setting has no difference between High 1gb and High 6gb.


There is a difference, I did some tests when I was adjusting the settings.
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Apr 2020 16:24    Post subject:
Finished too - play time 5 hours 40 min total time 7 hours 30 min. Mostly disappointed. Too short, lack of puzzles, lack of replayability . Its not a bad game, but IMO RE2 Remaster was way better.


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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Apr 2020 17:16    Post subject:
finished as well, i thought it was great, its not re2 but more streamlined but still was enjoyable, left me wanting more. hope they do now code veronica


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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Apr 2020 17:20    Post subject:
60 eur for 8 hours ? and a remaster Surprised

why isnt this game like 20 eur ?

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this is incomplete half finished game lots of locations from the original one is removed from the game , there is not much of puzzles ,you can finish it in less than 5 hours so think about it before paying 60 dollars for it,multi player doesn't even have server it's P2P game so enjoy the lag,delay,connection errors, IMO w8 for a good sale at least 50% off


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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Apr 2020 17:34    Post subject:
It's unbelievable how bad the combat is for what this game is supposed to be. But I guess they couldn't go for a proper combat because you will finish this game in 2 hours on the first playthrough. The targeting of objects and dodge mechanic are atrocious for today's gaming.
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Apr 2020 17:34    Post subject:
Finished it too, in 7 hours on hardcore. Enjoyed it, more action oriented than RE2 but still a good game. I paid nothing for it so it was well worth it Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Apr 2020 19:15    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
H4wkeye wrote:
The texture quality setting has no difference between High 1gb and High 6gb.
This happened in RE2R too, unless you need to restart the game after changing it and they somehow don't mention that?


There is a difference between low, medium, high but there is no difference between High settings. No matter if it's 1 or 6 gb.
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Apr 2020 19:17    Post subject:
H4wkeye wrote:
tonizito wrote:
H4wkeye wrote:
The texture quality setting has no difference between High 1gb and High 6gb.
This happened in RE2R too, unless you need to restart the game after changing it and they somehow don't mention that?


There is a difference between low, medium, high but there is no difference between High settings. No matter if it's 1 or 6 gb.


I thought the texture quality past high only controlled LOD and textures at a distance. I've always set it to 8gb so I've not really bothered to experiment, but even so.
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