Anyone familiar with Athlon 3000G? It's a Zen 1 CPU, but fits AM4, so theoretically can be upgraded later when there is a sale. I am musing a small itx build/DeskMini, and I see the 3000G is dirt cheap (50USD) and supports HDMI 2.0 natively (unlike Intel's NUC). The questions is, would the Vega 3 on that CPU be sufficient for 4K accelerated playback?
Well, it says it has "hardware accelerated video", but no mention of what codecs. Can I play full remuxes on it? The Gemini Man 60fps remux has quite the high bitrate.
So according to the chart, Raven Ridge has "Video Core Next (VCN) 1.0", which is capable with some HEVC decoding, but still not enough info on what levels are supported. Thanks
lol atom killer, intel killed atom off long time ago
low tdp is good, but i think with undervolting u can reach similar results on their cheap desktop/mobile range, just a niche product nobody really is asking for trying to recycle as much out of failed platters as possible
u can watch youtube on full hd on a 60 euro smaprthphone these days, who really needs this ?
The typical nfohump tardo no-thought response. You have no idea what Atom (or other low TDP CPUs) are for.
Atom is not dead, not by a long shot. Only the consumer-oriented, tablet and laptop stuff. The Atom server and embedded are alive and kicking, and pretty much uncontested in recent years. https://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=114569
Hey guys,
i'm thinking of upgrading some parts of my PC, especially the CPU.
My current config is :
i5-4570
MSI Z87-G43 motherboard
16 gigs of RAM
GTX 1060 with 6GB
A 500GB SSD
A 4TB HDD
I'm mainly doing gaming with this PC.
Do you think I would gain a lot of performance by upgrading my CPU to say a current gen 150-250€ one ? I guess I would also have to upgrade the motherboard so let's say 300-400€ total.
Modern games are starting to benefit from multi-core CPUs. Your CPU is a 2013 4 core-4 thread CPU. IPC has significantly improved since then, and SMT (hyperthreading) is showing significant performance advantage in recent years. Games with physics and open-world features, as is becoming more and more popular these days, are the greatest beneficiaries of modern CPUs.
What Sin said is correct, however. It is most likely that your GPU is currently your biggest bottleneck. If you can investigate in a GeForce 2060/2070 or a Vega 56/64, in addition to your CPU and RAM upgrade, you will see a great overall improvement.
Another factor is what resolution and refresh rate you play in. A 1060 is still quite capable of pushing 60fps, and a CPU/memory boost can give you an benefit there.
ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-based motherboard
Intel Core i5-8400 (6-core, 6-threaded locked CPU that will go to 3.9GHz all-core, 4GHz single-core turbo)
16GB DDR4 @ ~3200MHz (I've tweaked the BLCK a little)
I run all my games 1080P and usually have no issues whatsoever to keep a steady 60fps (I set vsync to "Fast" for each game in Geforce config tool).
I finished Metro Exodus and had most settings high with the most demanding ones at medium. No issues with performance and Metro Exodus is a rather demanding game to begin with. Some of the heavier quality settings doesn't actually make that much of a difference on screen so I felt no issues about having them at medium. And whatever you do, don't believe the benchmark, it's a worst case scenario and I over-tweaked when I first got the game using the benchmark as the test tool. Then I started the game and realized that the game itself wasn't nearly as heavy on the hardware as the benchmark.
Currently playing Forza Horizon 4 (3-months for €1 was a nice deal) with most if not all settings on high/ultra, no issues, perfect 60fps and looks nice.
Ever since I first got this setup I was planning on upgrading the i5-8400 to an unlocked 8700K/9700K but to be honest, I haven't felt the need yet. As Leo said, modern games are taking better advantage of multi-core CPU's and having a 6-core CPU seem to help even though it's locked to 3.9/4.0Ghz. It's not particularly future proof at this point but when I feel the need I'll probably get an unlocked 9-series 8-core CPU which will keep me happy for years.
Modern games are starting to benefit from multi-core CPUs. Your CPU is a 2013 4 core-4 thread CPU. IPC has significantly improved since then, and SMT (hyperthreading) is showing significant performance advantage in recent years. Games with physics and open-world features, as is becoming more and more popular these days, are the greatest beneficiaries of modern CPUs.
What Sin said is correct, however. It is most likely that your GPU is currently your biggest bottleneck. If you can investigate in a GeForce 2060/2070 or a Vega 56/64, in addition to your CPU and RAM upgrade, you will see a great overall improvement.
Another factor is what resolution and refresh rate you play in. A 1060 is still quite capable of pushing 60fps, and a CPU/memory boost can give you an benefit there.
Actually I didn't want to put this much money in an upgrade as I think my GPU is not very old (2016).
I'm playing in 1440p so I don't play at 60fps, more like 25-30 with settings on high, sometimes ultra. Doesn't bother me that much because I'm used to it. Downscaling to 1080p on my 1440p monitor looks terrible.
Frant wrote:
My setup and experience for comparison:
ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-based motherboard
Intel Core i5-8400 (6-core, 6-threaded locked CPU that will go to 3.9GHz all-core, 4GHz single-core turbo)
16GB DDR4 @ ~3200MHz (I've tweaked the BLCK a little)
I run all my games 1080P and usually have no issues whatsoever to keep a steady 60fps (I set vsync to "Fast" for each game in Geforce config tool).
I finished Metro Exodus and had most settings high with the most demanding ones at medium. No issues with performance and Metro Exodus is a rather demanding game to begin with. Some of the heavier quality settings doesn't actually make that much of a difference on screen so I felt no issues about having them at medium. And whatever you do, don't believe the benchmark, it's a worst case scenario and I over-tweaked when I first got the game using the benchmark as the test tool. Then I started the game and realized that the game itself wasn't nearly as heavy on the hardware as the benchmark.
Currently playing Forza Horizon 4 (3-months for €1 was a nice deal) with most if not all settings on high/ultra, no issues, perfect 60fps and looks nice.
Ever since I first got this setup I was planning on upgrading the i5-8400 to an unlocked 8700K/9700K but to be honest, I haven't felt the need yet. As Leo said, modern games are taking better advantage of multi-core CPU's and having a 6-core CPU seem to help even though it's locked to 3.9/4.0Ghz. It's not particularly future proof at this point but when I feel the need I'll probably get an unlocked 9-series 8-core CPU which will keep me happy for years.
lol atom killer, intel killed atom off long time ago
low tdp is good, but i think with undervolting u can reach similar results on their cheap desktop/mobile range, just a niche product nobody really is asking for trying to recycle as much out of failed platters as possible
u can watch youtube on full hd on a 60 euro smaprthphone these days, who really needs this ?
Modern games are starting to benefit from multi-core CPUs. Your CPU is a 2013 4 core-4 thread CPU. IPC has significantly improved since then, and SMT (hyperthreading) is showing significant performance advantage in recent years. Games with physics and open-world features, as is becoming more and more popular these days, are the greatest beneficiaries of modern CPUs.
What Sin said is correct, however. It is most likely that your GPU is currently your biggest bottleneck. If you can investigate in a GeForce 2060/2070 or a Vega 56/64, in addition to your CPU and RAM upgrade, you will see a great overall improvement.
Another factor is what resolution and refresh rate you play in. A 1060 is still quite capable of pushing 60fps, and a CPU/memory boost can give you an benefit there.
Actually I didn't want to put this much money in an upgrade as I think my GPU is not very old (2016).
I'm playing in 1440p so I don't play at 60fps, more like 25-30 with settings on high, sometimes ultra. Doesn't bother me that much because I'm used to it. Downscaling to 1080p on my 1440p monitor looks terrible.
Frant wrote:
My setup and experience for comparison:
ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-based motherboard
Intel Core i5-8400 (6-core, 6-threaded locked CPU that will go to 3.9GHz all-core, 4GHz single-core turbo)
16GB DDR4 @ ~3200MHz (I've tweaked the BLCK a little)
I run all my games 1080P and usually have no issues whatsoever to keep a steady 60fps (I set vsync to "Fast" for each game in Geforce config tool).
I finished Metro Exodus and had most settings high with the most demanding ones at medium. No issues with performance and Metro Exodus is a rather demanding game to begin with. Some of the heavier quality settings doesn't actually make that much of a difference on screen so I felt no issues about having them at medium. And whatever you do, don't believe the benchmark, it's a worst case scenario and I over-tweaked when I first got the game using the benchmark as the test tool. Then I started the game and realized that the game itself wasn't nearly as heavy on the hardware as the benchmark.
Currently playing Forza Horizon 4 (3-months for €1 was a nice deal) with most if not all settings on high/ultra, no issues, perfect 60fps and looks nice.
Ever since I first got this setup I was planning on upgrading the i5-8400 to an unlocked 8700K/9700K but to be honest, I haven't felt the need yet. As Leo said, modern games are taking better advantage of multi-core CPU's and having a 6-core CPU seem to help even though it's locked to 3.9/4.0Ghz. It's not particularly future proof at this point but when I feel the need I'll probably get an unlocked 9-series 8-core CPU which will keep me happy for years.
What GPU do you have ?
Overclocked Geforce 1060 6GB. Same GPU as you. It's not really a card for 1440 gaming if you want smooth FPS though.
Intel's 9 series i7s have hyperthreading artificially disabled. Waste of money if you ask me.
Damn, I forgot that only the 9900K have hyperthreading enabled. Now that's just annoying. On the other hand HT seems to have a negative effect on overclocking. I guess it will depend on pricing in the end.
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