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azzman




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 01:04    Post subject:
I also love it , very nice piece of coding indeed. Cant wait to see a sequel on the next gen system Smile
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hiatus_gsw
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 06:05    Post subject:
where is the fucking checkpoint on level 2. First it said, find the fucking border crossing which I finally managed and then it said cross the border and then around 30-40 guys start shooting at me from all sides, I finally get near the building and guess what, theres more guys in there who nail me. Mission failed and I think ok I get to start from the cross the border part, no sir it takes back to the annoying jaundiced cutscene which cannot be skipped. and you start all over again. I must say this is definitely a cure for insomniacs and impatient people!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 08:40    Post subject:
hiatus_gsw wrote:
where is the fucking checkpoint on level 2. First it said, find the fucking border crossing which I finally managed and then it said cross the border and then around 30-40 guys start shooting at me from all sides, I finally get near the building and guess what, theres more guys in there who nail me. Mission failed and I think ok I get to start from the cross the border part, no sir it takes back to the annoying jaundiced cutscene which cannot be skipped. and you start all over again. I must say this is definitely a cure for insomniacs and impatient people!!!!

Just PM Elazul Wink
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 10:02    Post subject:
yes, the saving system is one thing that i would change!
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 10:05    Post subject:
when oh when will console devs discover that forcing checkpoints and extended playing periods on everyone is not a good thing. anyways good game but i guess 'save-anywhere' is just something beyond hoping for in a console title...


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russ_beer




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 11:06    Post subject:
I think it stinks making a game that only has 6-7 hours playtime. The reason about it being the first of three stinks to me of profit whoring. Plus the next one prob won't be in what lifetime the xbox still has left, so you are expected to buy a 360 to continue your adventure? F*ck that.

On the difficulty thing, the normal level i think is more or less right. fair enough, i am at the start of the asylum and haven't died once yet, but have come very bloody close. So for me it seems ok. One thing that short games like this should have is a difficulty set-up like Goldeneye on the N64, not just more difficult, but more objectives, and better rewards to increase the likelyhood of you wanting to go back and do it again on black-ops mode to get those special weapons and other power-ups. This game tries to do it in a way, with silver weapons/gold weapons on harder levels, but so far I have no idea what benefit these weapons will have for us gamers.
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Elazul




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 11:20    Post subject:
russ_beer wrote:
I think it stinks making a game that only has 6-7 hours playtime.


Actually it doesn´t, most games that are over 20 hours get boring sometimes. Black is fun all the way through, i´d rather play a short game that is extremely enjoyable all the time than a slowish game that is longer.


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russ_beer




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 11:21    Post subject:
what if you were paying about $40-50 for that 6 hours?
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Elazul




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 11:23    Post subject:
russ_beer wrote:
what if you were paying about $40-50 for that 6 hours?


In a kind of way i already have paid that much for the game since i preordered it and already payed for it Smile Well, the game is many hours longer if you play through it on all difficulty settings and unlock everything.


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Weedo




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 12:14    Post subject:
russ_beer wrote:
One thing that short games like this should have is a difficulty set-up like Goldeneye on the N64, not just more difficult, but more objectives


Imho that's the stupidest thing ever invented and no game should have this. I hate it so much because hard is usually too hard (you die too fast) that's why I'm forced to play on normal and feel fooled because I miss gameplay and sometimes whole parts of the level. Rare should burn in hell for starting this crap. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 12:37    Post subject:
I think the reason for all the secondary objectives and lack of ingame saving is probably coz the devs thought the game was short and that was probably the easiest way to extend its lifespan without creating more missions.


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Elazul




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 13:15    Post subject:
BLACK Expansion Pack: BLACKER

Features:

4 New Missions
2 New Weapons

29$




Well, but if they make one it will be this large, lol


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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 15:38    Post subject:
hmmm, beat the game on normal earlier and checked my profile.

there it says that i only beat 30 % of the game so far.

my guess is that it has to beaten on the hardest level and to do all secondary missions before completion. obviously some levels will take a pretty long time to complete doing everything in them. lol especially without a good saving system! Very Happy

what i do like about this game is that it actually takes a bit of strategy to kill the oponenets. not that they are smart, but their bullets still hurt.

im going to test the hard setting now.

oh and unlocking silver weapons means that you can use silver weapons that have unlimited ammo. only up to normal level though, i think...
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kbracing6




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 16:12    Post subject:
I like the fact that you can use your own soundtracks on the game!
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Elazul




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 16:20    Post subject:
kbracing6 wrote:
I like the fact that you can use your own soundtracks on the game!


Me too, i´m currently kicking some terrorist ass to In Flames - Come Clarity ^__^


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spykE_e




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 18:08    Post subject:
hiatus_gsw wrote:
where is the fucking checkpoint on level 2. First it said, find the fucking border crossing which I finally managed and then it said cross the border and then around 30-40 guys start shooting at me from all sides, I finally get near the building and guess what, theres more guys in there who nail me. Mission failed and I think ok I get to start from the cross the border part, no sir it takes back to the annoying jaundiced cutscene which cannot be skipped. and you start all over again. I must say this is definitely a cure for insomniacs and impatient people!!!!


Play better, cause you suck. Get over it for starting over again Smile. Use your brains if you have them.

Seriously, I love this game. I don't care if it might only last 6 hours, but it's totally worth it. It's not like a regular shooter that you've seen the same an hour ago etc. This is one damn nice shooter, which doesn't get boring at all costs. You fall from one mission into an other, a whole different scene. It's just beautiful, you won't find this in other games (except for HL² maybe, which it can be compared with I think).

And it's not like you've played it on normal and the game is going into the bin. It's so addiciting, I mean all the explosions and stuff. You always find other ways to take out enemies, to complete objectives etc. It's not a fuking straight-to-the-point game, you actually can choose how to complete the mission.

I'm so totally into this Smile. I'm currently playing it on Hard and I am right now at the Nazran Foundry. Shit it got leaked, otherwise, I'd bought it Wink. Also the graphics are so unbelievable. I really didn't think the Xbox could handle all this and with NO loading screens almost. It's just amazing. You get these immense levels which get bigger and bigger and you have no loading screens.

Again, fuck the ones who complain about the lifespan of it. Play the game and stfu. And if you don't like this type of games: beat it.
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 19:50    Post subject:
For me, this game didn't live up to the hype. It's short, the enemies are rather stupid, there is essentially no storyline, the cutscenes are lame and cannot be skipped and I killed the two bosses without even realising it.

But, the technology behind the game (graphics, destruction, physics, loading) is fantastic. Kind of like farcry in a way. But it's not even in the same league as HL2.

7/10 for me.


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spykE_e




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 22:17    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
For me, this game didn't live up to the hype. It's short, the enemies are rather stupid, there is essentially no storyline, the cutscenes are lame and cannot be skipped and I killed the two bosses without even realising it.

But, the technology behind the game (graphics, destruction, physics, loading) is fantastic. Kind of like farcry in a way. But it's not even in the same league as HL2.

7/10 for me.


Lol no story? Lame cutscenes? Dude try to get yourself INTO the story, not standing aside of it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 22:33    Post subject:
I agree with Animal that the story is more like... there is no real story... Yes sure some kind of agent threat against the free world something going on there but it's not like you care about it.

Even though a real story is missing I really thought it was entertaining and I hated to see it end like that. And just like Animal I didn't realise I had killed the bosses until I noticed the game ended. But I like games where there are no real über bosses (one reason I hated Q4).



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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 00:02    Post subject:
spykE_e wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
For me, this game didn't live up to the hype. It's short, the enemies are rather stupid, there is essentially no storyline, the cutscenes are lame and cannot be skipped and I killed the two bosses without even realising it.

But, the technology behind the game (graphics, destruction, physics, loading) is fantastic. Kind of like farcry in a way. But it's not even in the same league as HL2.

7/10 for me.


Lol no story? Lame cutscenes? Dude try to get yourself INTO the story, not standing aside of it.


Theres nothing to get into! So, i'm supposed to hate this apparent bad guy because he killed a group of people who I never met in game and never even saw die? Then the main character keeps wailing on about how badly he wants to kill this guy, so I go through the game, get to some room with alot of bad guys and then suddenly I throw a grenade and this 'uber' bad guy has apparently died, BUT WAIT! OMFG, he didn't really die! What a twist! Now I have to kill him again! Cue the sequel!

It's fucking pathetic. Even worse, you are the cliche insubordinate hardass. We haven't seen that before!

Look, the game was fun, but it wasn't the story that kept me playing.


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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 01:17    Post subject:
bleh, and i was looking forward to this on ps2, i guess i ll wait till march to play another good game.


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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 01:21    Post subject:
What the fuck is up with the enemies? I can almost empty a full magazine in their face, and they are still standing!

Well, all i´m saying is that they take way too much too kill, even on easy.

Graphics are nice though, but I can´t seem to understand the hype over the destruction physics? imo you can´t destroy much more than in other fps games..


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kosmiq




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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 01:41    Post subject:
uhh _SiN_ wtf? Headshots are instant kills 99% of the times. I always aim high and then spray, kills them of fast.

I think more then usual is destructable as almost any window and the wall with it can be blown out very often.



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Munkeee




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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 02:00    Post subject:
played first 2 levels with ak set to single shot . and in most occasions had to shot the them 3 times in the face . strangly enough my pistol get em first time though :/. played first 2 levels and can't see me continueing on . Nothing new imo


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 02:05    Post subject:
kosmiq wrote:
uhh _SiN_ wtf? Headshots are instant kills 99% of the times. I always aim high and then spray, kills them of fast.

I think more then usual is destructable as almost any window and the wall with it can be blown out very often.


It depends on the weapon, but most automatics take about 3-5 headshots to kill enemies. Unless you shoot them in the head without them seeing you, which is rather stupid.

But I agree, there is alot more destructable then usual.


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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 03:52    Post subject:
well if they dont see you, you surprise em and they die instantly because they dont have the time to tense their brains muscles to deflect your bullets.
atleast thats the only logical explanation i can come up with Wink


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 04:10    Post subject:
D_A_Kuja wrote:
well if they dont see you, you surprise em and they die instantly because they dont have the time to tense their brains muscles to deflect your bullets.
atleast thats the only logical explanation i can come up with Wink


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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 04:57    Post subject:
Hehe, well the "head" part was an exaggeration, i´m just saying that they are unbelievable hard to kill, most of the time. Even my dad who watched me play today pointed out that they seemed very hard to kill Razz


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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 05:27    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
Hehe, well the "head" part was an exaggeration, i´m just saying that they are unbelievable hard to kill, most of the time. Even my dad who watched me play today pointed out that they seemed very hard to kill Razz


Took me 27 bullets on chest to kill a guy up close..well most of them...anyway i played all the game so far with my rifles set to single shot..always aiming for the head
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 05:44    Post subject:
Apparently it's body armor. But those shotgun guys take at least a full clip to the chest, so it must be uber bod armor.


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