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Danyutz
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I have the white meshify, with the glass and I can only praise it, loved the cable management.
Plenty breathing room.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Tue, 11th Feb 2020 21:16 Post subject: |
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Isn't the R6 slightly better?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 11th Feb 2020 21:43 Post subject: |
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@Morphineus In what way? I read that the Define S2 is based on R6, and in turn, the Meshify S2 is based on S2.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 11th Feb 2020 21:53 Post subject: |
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Perhaps the R6/Define S2 are somewhat quieter than the Meshify S2.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Tue, 11th Feb 2020 22:01 Post subject: |
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I thought it was a bit quieter, cooler and better against dust than the meshify... but... now I see you were talking about the S2. Haven't read or watched anything about the S2. So ignore that. 
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Feb 2020 19:56 Post subject: |
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AMD is recommending water coolers for 280W TDP processors. The Noctua can cope with 280W fine, but if I decide to overclock, that TDP goes up quickly, and air cooling is less efficient there.
None of the AIOs, other than Enermax—which I won't touch, has a proper coverage of that huge socket. The IceGiant ProSiphon Elite is coming *some time* but who knows how well they work, or how durable? Some small company that is nothing more than a startup. So wtf... 
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Feb 2020 21:47 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Feb 2020 22:02 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | AMD is recommending water coolers for 280W TDP processors. The Noctua can cope with 280W fine, but if I decide to overclock, that TDP goes up quickly, and air cooling is less efficient there.
None of the AIOs, other than Enermax—which I won't touch, has a proper coverage of that huge socket. The IceGiant ProSiphon Elite is coming *some time* but who knows how well they work, or how durable? Some small company that is nothing more than a startup. So wtf... |
I had old Threadripper 1950X overclocked to the max with the noctua and the CPU did not thermal throttle. You should not be overclocking Zen 2 CPU´s anyway, minimal gains and there is no true explanation yet what kind of voltages the CPUs can take (apparently 1.325V which should be max safe is not safe for all chips, voltage what your CPU can take depends silicon quality).
Also if you overclock, you lose every single Power Saving feature, you are feeding constant fixed voltage to the CPU even in idle, these CPU´s cannot be overclocked for example with offset voltage which drops at idle volts and when there is load it goes to specified volts etc.. its always constant voltage, there are people on the internet who says tho that "Zen 2 reaches 1.5V on stock auto settings", yes this is true, but its for like fraction of a second, the boost system is very clever and takes pretty much every loose MHZ out of the CPU without any hassle.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Feb 2020 22:05 Post subject: |
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So the boost system cannot be enhanced to push to higher clocks, while maintaining the variable speeds/voltages? 
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Feb 2020 22:08 Post subject: |
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Didn't you order 3960X? Why are you on peasant 3900X? 
| Breezer_ wrote: | | Ordered 3960X + Zenith Extreme II as christmas present to myself, not sure if i get them this year tho, CPU was in stock but mobo not ;( |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Feb 2020 23:28 Post subject: |
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The Zenith Extreme II Alpha is a rehash of Zenith Extreme II, intended for 3990X.
I am looking at the top end Gigabyte motherboard, but it's a fucking XL-ATX, which nobody seems to support these days. So it's either MSI Creator TRX40, or Asus.
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Feb 2020 00:08 Post subject: |
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Of all the cases I've ever used, the best I've had the R6
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HQKF7F2/
Phanteks makes great cases too, did a couple customer builds in an Enthoo and an Eclipse. I liked the Eclipse better of the two.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Feb 2020 00:12 Post subject: |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Feb 2020 09:42 Post subject: |
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Is it full of dust filters?
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Feb 2020 09:46 Post subject: |
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Yes ofcourse it has dustfilters, magnetic ones.
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Feb 2020 11:02 Post subject: |
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No top rad mesh. Meh! (Though the build looks nice. )
| SpykeZ wrote: | Of all the cases I've ever used, the best I've had the R6
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HQKF7F2/
Phanteks makes great cases too, did a couple customer builds in an Enthoo and an Eclipse. I liked the Eclipse better of the two. |
R6 is a good case but I prefer Meshify S2 over it due to better airflow from the front panel.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Feb 2020 17:07 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | Yes ofcourse it has dustfilters, magnetic ones. |
Thanks! |
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Feb 2020 17:28 Post subject: |
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@scaramonga
well i have 4x 140mm fans in my case, all noctua expect cooler fan is 140mm ML Pro, im running them fixed speed @ 50%, i really cannot hear them, GPU is also capped at 50% which is pretty silent aswell, it is more silent than some normal watercooling setup with full of 120mm fans. Im pretty surprised about this 2080ti strix cooler, its the first one ever where i dont have any need to swap aftermarket one, finally they are nailing cooling / noise performance on stock custom GPU´s.
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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Feb 2020 17:54 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | If you like glass side panel and little bit more "futuristic look", check out Phanteks P600S, amazing airflow case, can also be used as "silent" mode if you keep the modular panels attached which can be removed from front and top, has acoustic dampening material inside the panels and the glass panel is sealed. Build quality is top notch and the overall design is very clever, has small little good things like GPU sack support bracket backside the case and you can put 10X normal HDDs in there (has 4 HDD brackets and 3x SSD brackets at stock).
My anti-rgb build inside the P600S
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Nice build. However, it must've taken a long time to get everything neatly packed in like that. The case does look a bit small/compact to be honest. Good hardware. I'd be hesitant to rebuilt that since it would probably take at least an hour or two to get it neatly set up like in your picture. I guess the ventilation and ambient temperature is under control?
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Feb 2020 17:59 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | Breezer_ wrote: | If you like glass side panel and little bit more "futuristic look", check out Phanteks P600S, amazing airflow case, can also be used as "silent" mode if you keep the modular panels attached which can be removed from front and top, has acoustic dampening material inside the panels and the glass panel is sealed. Build quality is top notch and the overall design is very clever, has small little good things like GPU sack support bracket backside the case and you can put 10X normal HDDs in there (has 4 HDD brackets and 3x SSD brackets at stock).
My anti-rgb build inside the P600S
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Nice build. However, it must've taken a long time to get everything neatly packed in like that. The case does look a bit small/compact to be honest. Good hardware. I'd be hesitant to rebuilt that since it would probably take at least an hour or two to get it neatly set up like in your picture. I guess the ventilation and ambient temperature is under control? |
GPU and CPU is little over 60C in heavy gaming, so temperatures are very good, all fans @ fixed 50%. Took me less than 1 hour to build this. Probably looks small in the picture since NH-D15 and Strix coolers are massive ones, GPU itself is over 30cm long and takes nearly 3 slots  ...
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Feb 2020 18:02 Post subject: |
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I thought it takes less than 10 minutes to build a rig?
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Frant
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LeoNatan
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Feb 2020 18:28 Post subject: |
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In my experience, shitty cases with no cable management builds are the ones that take the longest. 
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Feb 2020 21:19 Post subject: |
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That's the case I chose for my very recent new build 
