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| bronson wrote: | The mediocre reception was expected. It was obvious they didn't have the budget to make it an epic of big proportions like GoT. It reminded me of those Hallmark movies from 20 years ago. They should've at least secured a good director to compensate for the lack of funds. It's a quick cash in, I don't think it will be renewed after S2. Sapkowski is very happy though, he secured that bag. I can't think of another creator in recent years who gives less of a fuck about his work as long as he gets paid.
On the bright side I'm sure all the reddit and tumblr ladies will love it or at least force themselves to say they like it.  |
It's already been renewed for season 2 and they did get a good director, Alik Sakharov. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002399/
Has directed for Rome, Broadwalk Empire, The Americans, Game of Thrones, House of Cards, etc.
edit: Oops, sorry, you said AFTER season 2. Fair enough 
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"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
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bronson
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 16:28 Post subject: |
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@bronson | Quote: | | They should've at least secured a good director to compensate for the lack of funds |
No. They should have hired a good writer, not these hacks.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 16:29 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | | WaldoJ wrote: |
It's mostly for wamen like game of thrones. |
Huh? GoT was a normal show, no SJW or feminist shit that annoyed me, anyway. |
Wtf are you reading?!
It's like game of thrones mostly women enjoyed it for the story and characters and titties were added to lure in male audiences. When typical non fan men stranded away it got more penis than titties. The show, got, isn't male focused. Wtf. Just cause the main target audience is wamen doesn't make it sjw or feminist. There are feminist, sjw shows that target wamen. Got and so far from what I've read WItcher ain't.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 16:32 Post subject: |
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I'm not sure I'm enjoying it, or that I'm not. It's been okay so far (ep3) nothing great and apart from the wooshing swords in ep1 nothing awful.
I don't get the criticism on the previous page from GameSpot that it's a confusing structure though, it seems pretty straight forward to me.
Granted I've only played the games though
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 16:54 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | Just saw the first episode.
What's up with the ugly ass grey filter?! It makes me think of some cheaply produced black metal video from the late 90's. "we got to make it look depressing!" It really made me cringe, a fantasy series should not remind me of some music video.
CGI (like magic and sometimes things like buildings) looks so fucking cheap too.
The actors are.. "ok" but also generic and rather meh, it's not like they totally immerse you from the get-go like in e.g GoT.
The locations are cool, the fighting was decent. But nah, overall this felt cheap, especially due to how fucking ugly it looks, i can't get immersed in the rather interesting/beautiful scenery if you overprocess the image with some dumb fucking instagram-filter. Doh.
I'm guessing the CGI looked so shit and disconnected that they came up with the "brilliant" idea to dull everything down with filters "no one will notice and everything will blend really nicely!!" Amateur hour. |
That’s what happens when Americans try to recreate something they have 0 idea about: the distinct naturalism that people from slavic countries can create. You can feel it in the witcher books and games and that’s what makes them beautiful. In the show they hoped a gray filter would do it.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 17:10 Post subject: |
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First episode was pretty meh.
Though the rest are ok so far at episode 4.
First episode should have set the tone of the world, and I think it would have been better if 3/4ths of the episode was about Renfri and the stuff she went through culminating in her run in with Geraldo.
Paint her as sympathetic then watch her meet her fate for what she valued.
First episode just screamed generic fantasy.
Also not a fan of the jumping around timelines, but I guess that's the only efficient way they can go about introducing the characters.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 17:14 Post subject: |
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| Saner wrote: | I'm not sure I'm enjoying it, or that I'm not. It's been okay so far (ep3) nothing great and apart from the wooshing swords in ep1 nothing awful.
I don't get the criticism on the previous page from GameSpot that it's a confusing structure though, it seems pretty straight forward to me.
Granted I've only played the games though |
This is based on the books/stories. Not vidya games. So gaymers who know nothing about WItcher and just games... Will get confused if they want to follow along.
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Saner
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 17:22 Post subject: |
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I'm having no issues following. Sure it jumps in time, but if you watch and pay attention I don't see the issue. Unless I'm missing something major
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 17:33 Post subject: |
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| Saner wrote: | | I'm having no issues following. Sure it jumps in time, but if you watch and pay attention I don't see the issue. Unless I'm missing something major |
That's true, but only if they've done it in a good way. Sometimes the blame lies on the other end. Will watch it soon enough to judge myself.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 17:50 Post subject: |
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I didnt get any feminism vibe from any of that, but again, it becomes more apparent when i watch it. It doesnt make sense to open the series with anyone other than Geralt though..
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 19:22 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 23:36 Post subject: |
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Funny how the game fans were the most critical about it, because now they certainly seem to be the people that like it the most.
Unrelated to the reception by game fans, here is PC Gamer's article on the show:
https://www.pcgamer.com/netflix-witcher-review/
"You can relax: Netflix's Witcher series kicks ass"
Cavill kills it as Geralt in one of the best shows this year.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2019 00:47 Post subject: |
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Oh man,
after 1,5 episode it is... hmmm "mediocre" at best. Geralt is great though...
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2019 01:20 Post subject: |
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Black slavs, black Fringilia... black elf.
Omygadable Loren Sheet r u crazy?
review from metacritic.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2019 02:04 Post subject: |
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I ended up watching all 8 episodes and it was ok as a first season but I can see where the reviewers did not like the way they jumped around the timeline because it did end up being a bit confusing since other then Yennifer all the characters look and practically dress the same. It would have been easier if Geralt had some stubble or more visible face scars in present day so you can tell when it was 12 years ago, 5 years ago or 5 weeks ago. The Nilfgaardian armor issue really does make you wonder what they were thinking when the showrunners signed off on that thinking it looked great.
Cavill was good as Geralt but Triss is a wasted character which I guess is because she will have a bigger part in season 2 but it just felt like they were thinking they needed to have her in there somewhere because people would have asked where is Triss otherwise. The scene in episode 2 between Geralt and  Spoiler: | Goat man |
trading insults did get a chuckle out of me, too bad there was not really more of those sort of fun moments.
It will be interesting to see if this show does get a season 3 but I guess we will find out next year at some point.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2019 02:26 Post subject: |
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Watched ep1, I thought it was really good, they established the characters and setting fairly well, honestly covering what 2-3 seasons of GOT would have done in one episode. I understand why but would have dropped the intro sequence, as they could have slow burned that he's a monster hunter (honestly the first episode could have been a season). There was a bit cringe dialog, which I would again blame pacing, looking forward to the rest though.
lots of complaining over trivial / irreverent stuff I keep seeing, eye contacts, hair color, actress vs. game model who the fuck cares, lots of people i guess
Also Henry Cavill nailed it imo, nailed the delivery from the games + doing his own stunts what else could you ask for.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2019 07:51 Post subject: |
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Watched only ep1, didn't like it, awful fighting riddled with fucking reverse grip, not really using the fight scene description from the book, turning it into generic action hero vs generic thugs moment you've seen a million times.
Also, In the book each gang member was described and presented in a way that gave them a sense of danger, so Geralt easily murdering them felt more powerful. But here because they wanted to shove all the 'epic' and 'dramatic' Cintra stuff into the first episode they have no time to properly establish anything and make the viewer care at all about those characters. Meh. I hope next episodes are a bit better.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2019 11:41 Post subject: |
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Henry Cavill is great. Writing is awfully chaotic. The way they play with chronology makes no sens and kills all the emotion - in attack on Cintra for example because you have no idea who is who. Ciri part in Brokilon is boring. Geralt fight with Devil and meeting the elves was great story and they make it into absurdly pointless 3 minute scene. Dialogues are terrible. World looks cheap.
It's cliché but kind of enjoyable to watch. What this needs for season 2 is much much much better writing not this cheap 90s TV Show shallow vibe.
5,5/10
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2019 12:06 Post subject: |
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My biggest gripe with the series is the storytelling. I think they should've focused on Geralt in the first season - his profession, adventures, friendship with Dandelion and at the end they should've introduced Yennefer from The Last Wish.
Other than that the cheap effects, the forced "diversity", etc. can be ignored if the overall product was good, which IMO, it's not. I'll give it a 6/10. Very underwhelming and I didn't have high expectations to begin with. Hopefully S2 will be better.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2019 12:42 Post subject: |
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| bronson wrote: | My biggest gripe with the series is the storytelling. I think they should've focused on Geralt in the first season - his profession, adventures, friendship with Dandelion and at the end they should've introduced Yennefer from The Last Wish.
Other than that the cheap effects, the forced "diversity", etc. can be ignored if the overall product was good, which IMO, it's not. I'll give it a 6/10. Very underwhelming and I didn't have high expectations to begin with. Hopefully S2 will be better. |
I agree about concentrating on world building in the first season. They rushed ahead, probably afraid that otherwise it will bore the audience with all the dialogue and exposition. I have my gripes, especially how much of the books are left on the cutting room floor, but in general I appreciate the effort and enjoyed the first 3 episodes. Hope it gets better and deeper in S2.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2019 14:19 Post subject: |
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The actress who plays Triss is gorgeous in real life.
What the fuck have they done to her? She looks in her forties (and not the good ones) in the third episode.
PS
I've finished ep04
The writing is the weakest part of the show.
There are some other issues like several casting choices, blackwashing, questionable CGI and filters used, but overall I've been enjoying it so far.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2019 18:45 Post subject: |
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And there is another disappointment => the pathetic dragon... my god..it looked awful..
And I'm not talking about its CGI, I mean its design...awful
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2019 20:51 Post subject: |
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OK, I've finished it and I'm pleasantly surprised considering that my expectations were really low.
Despite its shortcomings - blackwashing, questionable CGI, filters, design (clothes, dragon etc) and casting choices, making the beautiful actress who plays Triss pretty old and ugly, mediocre battles (especially the final one..meh) - the show was pretty nice.
The story's structure was actually OK and I don't see how anyone would get confused by it. Unless they suffer from ADD and don't pay any attention.
Dat dragon though.. goddammit. How can I unsee it? It's not as atrocious as the Polish series version but close enough...
About Yennefer. When she first appeared after her appearance had changed she was almost perfect Yenenefer.. but in all the following episodes they changed her hairstyle and makeup and she looked considerably worse as in less Yenneferish.
How the fuck did Vilgefortz lose to | Spoiler: | Cahir ? |
Why make all these changes at all?
And why did Vilgefortz get | Spoiler: | batshit crazy in the end? |
The final battle was bad 
7.5/10 I would give it 8/10 but the final battle and the way they presented Vilgefortz were just so disappointing..
I've enjoyed it and looking forward to watching the next season when it gets released 
PS It's a nice show, BUT it's a pretty mediocre adaptation. They changed lots of things for no reason at all, and these new changes are not good.
And what's with the black actress quoting Vilgefortz from the books?
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2019 23:54 Post subject: |
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Finished Ep4 and I quite like it, follows the books.
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same was said of GoT s1, which is the best one. Haven't seen anything yet, just the fight scene (which wasn't really that bad), can't wait to get home 
cringy af
