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couleur
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While we wait for Intels response, here is AMDs response:
| Quote: | AMD Pre-Announces 64-core Threadripper 3990X: Time To Open Your Wallet
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| Quote: | AMD isn’t giving too many details away just yet. As we predicted, there was room at the top of AMD’s naming strategy to expose more Threadripper hardware: one does not simply stop as the 3970X being the most powerful processor, and the 3990X will certainly take the mantle. AMD is announcing today that the 3990X will have 64 cores, 128 threads, and will have the full 256 MB of L3 cache.
The 3990X will be the high-end desktop equivalent of the EPYC 7742. This means that inside it will have eight chiplets, each with 8 cores enabled. This is compared to the 3960X/3970X being announced today, with 24 and 32 cores respectively, which only have four chiplets. We can tell that the four chiplet designs are that way by the L3 cache: when only four chiplets are active, it has 128 MB of L3 cache, however with all eight chiplets, the 3990X will have 256 MB of L3 cache. That’s a sizeable processor, and seemingly unthinkable for a consumer part. However, as we’ve learned from AMD since introducing Ryzen, they like to go aggressive and offer some level of parity between consumer and enterprise hardware.
One thing that will differentiate the 3990X from the EPYC hardware will be memory and PCIe count. We fully expect (although not confirmed) that the 3990X will have quad channel memory and 64 PCIe 4.0 lanes, compared to EPYC which has eight channel memory and 128 PCIe lanes. AMD has also confirmed that the 3990X will have a TDP above and beyond the EPYC 7742's, with the 3990X coming in at 280W TDP. If this seems familiar, then this is the same TDP as the 24-core and 32-core Threadripper parts. As a result, we do expect the per-core frequency of the 3990X to be higher than the EPYC, but lower than the other Threadrippers.
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/15151/amd-preannounces-64-core-threadripper-3990x
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Nov 2019 06:25 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Nov 2019 06:29 Post subject: |
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So, to move over to the 'other side', lol, it's £3000 for me, factoring in, the 3970X, the board, TRX40 AORUS XTREME, and the RAM, 32Gb QUAD channel DDR4.
Hmm.....
I'm seriously thinking about it! 
...but £850 for the board  , lol, yup...JESUS FUCK!!
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Nov 2019 17:33 Post subject: |
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i wonder what happens if one core goes bad, if the whole thing can be trown in the bin or u can lock it out and disable it and keep chugging, then again ive never had a cpu die on me, not even one i chipped on all corners from amd in early 2000. , only bent pins kills themas far as ive seen, unless ur an overclocking maniac.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Nov 2019 18:03 Post subject: |
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Should be fine with disabling it.
Though I'm sure that warrants an RMA. 
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Nov 2019 18:05 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Nov 2019 23:10 Post subject: |
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thx for the news, gonna try them asap. have some strange issues with my network connection sometimes (intel ethernet driver update didnt do shit about it so maybe its chipset related)
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Nov 2019 00:20 Post subject: |
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why would you buy Threadripper for desktop??
3950X is overkill
heck 3900X is kind of overkill
do you have 4+ VMs running at the same time actively doing processes??
are you x4 multiboxing in WoW while streaming live? 
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Nov 2019 01:56 Post subject: |
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Multiboxing wow doesn't require much yo.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Nov 2019 09:19 Post subject: |
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Scara is running 4x 8 core / 16 thread VMs, each having chrome open with 1000 ebay tabs, AI powered bot goes through GPU listings and decides which are eligible for scam, threadripper is perfect for this.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Nov 2019 23:52 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Nov 2019 12:11 Post subject: |
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seems the new chipset drivers fixed my issues, or the upgrade to the latest final bios version. dunno, did both the same time
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Nov 2019 00:51 Post subject: |
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| Janz wrote: | | seems the new chipset drivers fixed my issues, or the upgrade to the latest final bios version. dunno, did both the same time |
Yup, probably added 'telemetry', in both, allowed the proper use in the end.
Something so simple.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Dec 2019 18:40 Post subject: |
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Wow, everything is out of stock everywhere, it seems (except local stores, where AMD CPU is 300$ more expensive). Not that I am buying now, just wanted to start doing rough calc of how much a potential system will hit me in the bank...
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Dec 2019 20:10 Post subject: |
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for sure wait till early 2020 ces n stuff , end of jan ? amd will announce their 4000 stuff i think, but ye , having to pay more cause of arteficial scarcity is bloody annoying indeed
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Dec 2019 20:12 Post subject: |
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4000 stuff will still be AM4 with a dual channel memory controller. Irrelevant for me, as is Intel's 9900KS for example.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Dec 2019 20:21 Post subject: |
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then u really missed ur chance during black friday n cyber monday, vendors where trowing out all their "older" inventory at silly prices and the whole delivering services are now in crunchtime delivering all them purchased product and xmass shit
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Dec 2019 20:46 Post subject: |
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What the fuck you talking about? I am speaking about AMD 3960X.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Dec 2019 20:48 Post subject: |
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| PickupArtist wrote: | | for sure wait till early 2020 ces n stuff , end of jan ? amd will announce their 4000 stuff i think, but ye , having to pay more cause of arteficial scarcity is bloody annoying indeed |
| PickupArtist wrote: | | then u really missed ur chance during black friday n cyber monday, vendors where trowing out all their "older" inventory at silly prices and the whole delivering services are now in crunchtime delivering all them purchased product and xmass shit |
Is this English? |
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Dec 2019 21:35 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | What the fuck you talking about? I am speaking about AMD 3960X. |
https://www.alternate.de/AMD/Ryzen-Threadripper-3960X-Prozessor/html/product/1593504
available here |
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Dec 2019 21:44 Post subject: |
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That's 250$USD more expensive than the NewEgg price too. And probably don't ship to Israel. Thanks
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Dec 2019 21:52 Post subject: |
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For Alternate NL/BE, Sweden was already too exotic. Had to contact them by mail to agree to a 'special' shipping price at the same time being told they only made the exception since I was a good customer there.  
Still was cheaper to buy my waifu a GPU back then than getting it from a Sweland store.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Dec 2019 22:40 Post subject: |
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I picked a different seller, apparently you can get it for 1499€ everywhere... Well, the german price includes 19% tax. Without the tax you land at 1.260,50€ (approx 1390 USD).
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