Remember the good old days, when downloading a game took hours or days? So once you got it, you were at least motivated to play it, even if it wasn't as good as you hoped it would be?
Or if you took your hard-earned cash and went to the shop across town or even in a city nearby, with train or car, to get that fresh copy of that game you were waiting for, including the manual with its fresh press ink smell. Omg.
Nowadays, you can download any game, that has been cracked or doesn't have protection, in minutes. Or seconds.
Any normal sized game, I can download, install and play inside 10-20 minutes TOPS. Heck, it's more inside 5-10 minutes usually, some games it's literally seconds.
Same thing with buying. What used to be an actually endeavour, something you had to at least motivate yourself to go outside, is now a trivialised matter. A couple of clicks and the game is yours.
So what is the result of this?
We have a steam account with hundred of games I've mostly never played or haven't played more than a couple minutes.
We have subscriptions of Origin, Uplay+, Gamepass, Humblebundle and whatever else.
Personally I "just" have Origin Basic, Gamepass PC and humblebundle. And while money wise I think they are good deals, and this isn't about that, it's about how there are so much freaking choice and so many games, that in the end, I actually play a LOT less, than I used to before, when I had to do something to get a game. And even when I actually end up playing for a couple of hours, I usually end up playing like 1 game for 7 days straight, or more, and it's usually one of a small handful of games out of the ocean of games I "could" play.
First world problems, I know, but fuck if it isn't frustrating...
Move over to Italy and become ixigia's roommate. Then, you can once more relive the glory of taking you a week to download a game
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
I think it's partially because if you're like me, in your 40's you have a history of;
* Listening to that one record you bought, as in really listening. I don't do that anymore really.
* Playing that one game you eventually saved up for, really playing it, replaying it. Getting good at it.
* Watching those few favorite movies and video clips over and over on VHS because it was all we had so we had to watch it over and over.
We could only dream of giant libraries of these mediums. Now when we have it, we don't really know how to handle it.
It's like being the starving kid who's suddenly presented with all the imaginable food, ice cream etc. he could ever dream of.
Eventually it starts to taste the same and it gets tiresome to chew through the various dishes to get to a new good one, when you find it, well, you're quite full already and you've had enough.
Well you asked, so here goes:
Paying a monthly subscription for games
But I get what you mean.
It's like that joke with the men with a steam account with hundreds of games and the women with a closet full of shoes saying "I've got nothing to play/wear "
boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
Yep agree with most here. Us old farts are more "romantic" to the old ways than we like to admit most of the time.
It's like the W. Allen movie "Midnight in Paris" where the more you travel to the past, mostly because you reminisce the innocence and maybe even the simplicity and how you seemed to enjoy every moment without being stressed with time, the more you wish to go even further back and this happens with most ages.
It's a result of overchoice, convenience and in some cases the lack of patience. Back in the day gaming was a privilege, now it's just taken for granted and gamers are now seen as a source of revenue by the bigger publishers.
It reminds me of my relationship with football these days.
Back when I didn't have the internet at home, I actually had my pc at a close-by Lan Cafe (friends worked there and was friends with the owner and helped out sometimes etc.).
I ended up being there all day long, sometimes for 2 days straight.
That was commitment to gaming
Of course, playing in a LAN with friends around is the best, lol.
thats big part of it as well as pink nostalgia googles.
back then i had all the time in the world , but little to no choice what to play and lttle to no money .... now the biggest problem is the time ,
luckily i dont usually get paralised by choise , i just play/watch/read what i am in the mood for and having wide and varied library is great for that (not a fan of subscriptions though)
Sin317 wrote:
Of course, playing in a LAN with friends around is the best, lol.
yup great times , but well bak then we lived just a few blocks from each other , nowadays we are spread out throughout the country (some even abroad) and even with internets annd steams we just cant find the right time for at 4 of us not being busy
there is nothing romantic about the death of modding and gamers turned into revenue streams, we have seen , experienced and wicknessed the decline of the golden years of gaming on the front row seat and those days are never coming back and that knowledge hurts
The doom and quake engine inspired and modding peepz and mappers blew us away what they did with it, crysis engine made us dream and hope, and then it all went to shit, everything nowadays just makes us cringe ... we know what is possible and yet it will probably never see the light of day because most of the industry has been replaced with yes men and egirlz people who have no clue what they are doing or reinventing the wheel, and turning it into a rent a flashy rbg 30 inch rimms that when u stop paying, they rip from ur car
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Good old days were the days I would walk 5km with a couple of coins to the other village where they had arcade games, then walk 5km back home. Finishing Vendetta twice with the same coin. Those were the days.
I think it's partially because if you're like me, in your 40's you have a history of;
* Listening to that one record you bought, as in really listening. I don't do that anymore really.
* Playing that one game you eventually saved up for, really playing it, replaying it. Getting good at it.
* Watching those few favorite movies and video clips over and over on VHS because it was all we had so we had to watch it over and over.
We could only dream of giant libraries of these mediums. Now when we have it, we don't really know how to handle it.
It's like being the starving kid who's suddenly presented with all the imaginable food, ice cream etc. he could ever dream of.
Eventually it starts to taste the same and it gets tiresome to chew through the various dishes to get to a new good one, when you find it, well, you're quite full already and you've had enough.
My nephew is a good example of this. Except for the XBox One I own every console released in the past 20 years and each console is either hacked or has a sizeable library of games attached to it. So when I bought the Switch a year and a half ago, thinking I'd surprise my nephew for his birthday (the idea was to let him pick a game, I bought the console). He's 12 by the way. So his response? "Meh. Xbox is better".
For the thousands of games I own, he always reverts to the same two as a result: Minecraft and Rocket League. That's it. The others he plays for five minutes and then plays another and another and he just doesn't get into them. It's only because his friends play Rocket League and Minecraft that he plays those a lot more - because it's a social thing.
have seen some weird shit around this and fortnite , my cousin (14yo) was called "default" alongside other things at school for weeks until he lost it (from the peer pressure and straight out bullying ) which in turn forced his parents to get him some vbucks for randim skin and suddenly all the bullying stopped
I think it's partially because if you're like me, in your 40's you have a history of;
* Listening to that one record you bought, as in really listening. I don't do that anymore really.
* Playing that one game you eventually saved up for, really playing it, replaying it. Getting good at it.
* Watching those few favorite movies and video clips over and over on VHS because it was all we had so we had to watch it over and over.
We could only dream of giant libraries of these mediums. Now when we have it, we don't really know how to handle it.
It's like being the starving kid who's suddenly presented with all the imaginable food, ice cream etc. he could ever dream of.
Eventually it starts to taste the same and it gets tiresome to chew through the various dishes to get to a new good one, when you find it, well, you're quite full already and you've had enough.
My nephew is a good example of this. Except for the XBox One I own every console released in the past 20 years and each console is either hacked or has a sizeable library of games attached to it. So when I bought the Switch a year and a half ago, thinking I'd surprise my nephew for his birthday (the idea was to let him pick a game, I bought the console). He's 12 by the way. So his response? "Meh. Xbox is better".
For the thousands of games I own, he always reverts to the same two as a result: Minecraft and Rocket League. That's it. The others he plays for five minutes and then plays another and another and he just doesn't get into them. It's only because his friends play Rocket League and Minecraft that he plays those a lot more - because it's a social thing.
You could be talking about my nephew here, except he plays that god awful Roblox shite. It looks like it was released 15 years ago and he spends all his money on it. I can't believe my brother lets him waste his money on it, but I guess you can't tell others how to raise their kids. If my daughter's ever ask to play it the answer will be a short and non-negotiable "no fucking way". It's probably a hunting ground for nonces too.
My 15 yo old stepson is the same. He has a good PC here when he comes to visit his mother and I built him a quite good pc for his home. Only thing he plays, is fortnite... on his PS4. And he told me once, they have a competition among friends... who has the most skins...
Would you really go back to slow internet? then use a limiter. I like to have everthing easy. But with games im not so enthusiastic when i was younger.
Move over to Italy and become ixigia's roommate. Then, you can once more relive the glory of taking you a week to download a game
There's nothing more romantic than staring at that unmovable download progress for days and finally savor the cathartic act of my PC desperately trying to install repacks on the HDD
We have a steam account with hundred of games I've mostly never played or haven't played more than a couple minutes.
We have subscriptions of Origin, Uplay+, Gamepass, Humblebundle and whatever else.
First world problems, I know, but fuck if it isn't frustrating...
Your thoughts?
lack of self control?
nothing has changed in that regard, although now you get to suffer from choice paralysis
ultimately i spend most of my time replaying favorites or dredging up old games (and modding), which is not so much nostalgia as it is being at odds with modern practices. no subscriptions here, i don't need all of that shit. you don't need to hoard games
you can hardly expect to spend the same amount of time gaming as you did in your youth, you may not have the enthusiasm; most games are very similar ultimately and you can only get excited for the same thing so much. unlike yesteryears, i have really widened which genres i enjoy so that helps a little.
my problem is i'm such a fucking gaming connoisseur at times, that i need games with more depth, while everyone else is happy playing leap frog with dlc skins. right now i'm about 4 hours into RDR2 and i already feel like i could be playing a mechanically more interesting game.
Move over to Italy and become ixigia's roommate. Then, you can once more relive the glory of taking you a week to download a game
There's nothing more romantic than staring at that unmovable download progress for days and finally savor the cathartic act of my PC desperately trying to install repacks on the HDD
Or have red alert installation on 120 flopys. And one of them fails mid install
I think it's partially because if you're like me, in your 40's you have a history of;
* Listening to that one record you bought, as in really listening. I don't do that anymore really.
* Playing that one game you eventually saved up for, really playing it, replaying it. Getting good at it.
* Watching those few favorite movies and video clips over and over on VHS because it was all we had so we had to watch it over and over.
Seriously this. I'm Gen X, 44 and you hit the nail on the head for those.
* I remember how cool Netscape was and you thought you needed all of their plugins but you really didn't.
* If you couldn't afford or didn't want an album, just download it via Audio galaxy.
* Demo disks from PC Gamer mag. I played the hell our of the original Diablo.
* Setting up a usenet program on a 56k modem where the downloads were split into 1-2 meg chunks. You prayed your modem didn't get disconnected in the middle of the night and swearing at your wife for picking up the phone during the middle of a download.
* Buying my first GB drive (Maxtor 2.5 GB) and thinking I will never need to upgrade for a long time.
* first time seeing 3D graphics. Was Triple Play 98 on a store shelf. My jaw dropped at those blocky polygons and I went to best buy and bought a 3dfx Voodoo card and the Triple Play game. I then bought Spec Ops and Rainbow 6 and was showing my wife how cool this looked and she just rolled her eyes.
I was telling my sons this just last week. I said I don't think you'll come close to the "wow" experiences that I did (maybe except for VR). After all, I grew up in a time where the Internet was rolled out and it negated things like phone books, encyclopedias, maps, school books (I actually wanted to cite a source from the Internet in college before Internet citation was a thing. Went to the library and they had no idea how to do it so they just said to use the link, author and date). Cell phones overtook land lines and pay phones were removed. video conferencing at home, GPS systems/apps in your car....I mean being alive during the Gen X times was exciting. And like the 80s, I kind of miss those wow experiences.
there is nothing romantic about the death of modding and gamers turned into revenue streams, we have seen , experienced and wicknessed the decline of the golden years of gaming on the front row seat and those days are never coming back and that knowledge hurts
The doom and quake engine inspired and modding peepz and mappers blew us away what they did with it, crysis engine made us dream and hope, and then it all went to shit, everything nowadays just makes us cringe ... we know what is possible and yet it will probably never see the light of day because most of the industry has been replaced with yes men and egirlz people who have no clue what they are doing or reinventing the wheel, and turning it into a rent a flashy rbg 30 inch rimms that when u stop paying, they rip from ur car
That hit me hard.. the Doom/Quake/HL1-2 engines allowed for the most ambitious total conversions, the scene was really booming back then and I was so excited for so many of them.. most of which turned out to be vaporware (The Real World for Max Payne, I'm looking at you !), but some of them ended up being glorious !
Spent countless hours on Urban Terror for Q3A, Movie Battles 2 still remains a favourite for Jedi Academy, the list goes on and on. Valve managed to really bank upon that, but since then..
Seems like the modding scene isn't what it used to be anymore save for a handful of games (mostly RPGs really, which manage to maintain a higher kind of community) for a lot of reasons, lack of modding tools or/and of moddable engines, the greater amount of work required to make things look and feel good, and some form of discouragement.
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