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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 02:12    Post subject:
The point is, is it really worth $1200 for just a sneak peak at future technology and a mild improvement over pascal in rastarization?
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sip74




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 02:33    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
Some people fail to understand... it's kinda a miracle it's running as it does. It is real time ray tracing... so shadows, global illumination with 2 bounces, mirrors... everything.


Yep, the fact that it's fully ray-traced is impressive.

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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 04:47    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
The point is, is it really worth $1200 for just a sneak peak at future technology and a mild improvement over pascal in rastarization?


obviously not, however if you have money to piss away and enjoy it meh.

<= still on 1080 with no plans of upgrade.

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Some people fail to understand... it's kinda a miracle it's running as it does. It is real time ray tracing... so shadows, global illumination with 2 bounces, mirrors... everything.


Agree it is pretty amazing, if I had one of those extremely overpriced cards I would be checking it out. Not worth buying a new card for though
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Badrien




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 06:10    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
FireMaster wrote:
The point is, is it really worth $1200 for just a sneak peak at future technology and a mild improvement over pascal in rastarization?


obviously not, however if you have money to piss away and enjoy it meh.

<= still on 1080 with no plans of upgrade.

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Some people fail to understand... it's kinda a miracle it's running as it does. It is real time ray tracing... so shadows, global illumination with 2 bounces, mirrors... everything.


Agree it is pretty amazing, if I had one of those extremely overpriced cards I would be checking it out. Not worth buying a new card for though


I'll be the first to say that if you already owned a 1080(ti) upgrading would be a waste of money. But alot of us people are coming from cards not even close to that performance(upgraded from a rx580 myself, a friend of mine from a 1060), in which case yes it is DEFINITELY worth to shell out the extra 100(which was the differnce for me here at release day) over a decent 1080TI to get the RTX card; this shit is the future
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termcan




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 07:52    Post subject:
Current RTX cards are like a prius. I'm waiting for a tesla.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 08:00    Post subject:
Anyone tried it yet? Im gonna try it in a sec.


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 10:07    Post subject:
termcan wrote:
Current RTX cards are like a prius. I'm waiting for a tesla.


Yah I'm on a 1080 no-ti, at this stage can see my self skipping several generations of GPU. These days I find the best games worth playing don't need bleeding edge hardware. Also the 1080 is holding up fine to current generation games, outside experimenting with RT the only title I get shit performance is the current Star Citizen vertical slice.
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 10:43    Post subject:
These are still very fast cards. My 2070 is as fast as inbetween 1080 and 1080ti + it has that crazy ray tracing. These are good cards. Nvidia is just too expensive overall


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Ankh




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 11:02    Post subject:
Tried it.

It was pretty damn cool - but if you did not know about the rtx im pretty sure nobody would notice it. (unless you look in windows/water etc)


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 12:30    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
Tried it.

It was pretty damn cool - but if you did not know about the rtx im pretty sure nobody would notice it. (unless you look in windows/water etc)


Rtx in a nutshell
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 13:00    Post subject:
From my understanding, can't any GPU do RT? Is this another NVIDIA proprietary gimmick like gsync and physx that doesn't conform to an open standard to sucker derps out of money?
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Amadeus




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 13:09    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
From my understanding, can't any GPU do RT? Is this another NVIDIA proprietary gimmick like gsync and physx that doesn't conform to an open standard to sucker derps out of money?


Not really no, AMD just hasn't implemented their own API yet nor enabled the use of the Microsoft DirectX Raytracing API.

It's just faster right now on RTX cards cause they have dedicated hardware onboard for it.

The push for use of Raytracing is great, despite nvidias motives for using it.

It just needs to be used more by devs and hardware that can comfortably run it.

We've not seen a modern title use all aspects of raytracing yet, global illumination, shadows and reflection.

Once it'll properly utilized in a game made for it I'm sure the difference between traditional rendering methods will be night and day.

It sure would be a huge difference If we rendered a CGI movie with real time shaders instead of raytracing.

I mean for all the odd forced implementations we see in games like Battlefield 5 and Metro Exodus, all you need to do is look at the Minecraft Raytracing shaders to see it's potential.
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 13:41    Post subject:
well if that's the case and we dont see fragmentation of the market, the future looks bright. I still think we missed out on some really cool tech with physx, a shame that essentially had to be buried.
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 13:48    Post subject:
I still don´t understand why they ditched PhysX, hardware accelerated physics (fluids/smoke etc..) imo is still next-gen when properly used, for destruction it would be amazing.
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jun 2019 14:09    Post subject:
You need developers to use it, by making it proprietary they essentially doom the technology. Why would a developer bother adding extra features and support for only half the customers. I also hope gsync lost them money so they don't pull this shit again. There was an open standard at the time for variable refresh rate the time they started launching that stuff.

as usual

lol wut lol wut gotta pay 40% more for gsync
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Amadeus




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Oct 2019 12:52    Post subject:
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/nvidia-has-created-a-gaming-studio-to-remaster-classic-pc-games-with-ray-tracing-effects/

Guess we'll be seeing more games getting the RTX treatment

In games like the old Thief series better shadows and lighting could actually add a lot of atmosphere and impact the gameplay nicely.

if done right.. which is a big if

I would personally want the original Deus Ex all prettied up.

Not that I need another reason to replay Deus Ex for the millionth time
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Oct 2019 14:14    Post subject:
Facepalm

Money well spent, no doubt. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Oct 2019 14:48    Post subject:
RTX Supaplex plox.


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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Oct 2019 17:40    Post subject:
something tells me, they wont be able to even get close to what some mod makers have been able to do in all those years

rtx , hairworks, physix, all dogshit
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Oct 2019 18:22    Post subject:
3D gay villa RTX Smile
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Oct 2019 21:02    Post subject:
That's a great idea by nvidia, but I don't know how feasible this really is?? Isn't the only reason the Quake 2 thingy was possible in the first place that its source code has been released to the public?

That would mean all those suggestions I've read bout F.E.A.R., Half-Life, Deus Ex, whatever, they are not really possible.

So we'll get Doom 3 next I guess... and then?


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Oct 2019 21:05    Post subject:
Can't wait for the Doom 3 RTX port, where everything that looked like plastic (so everything Laughing ) is converted into mirrors. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Oct 2019 22:04    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Can't wait for the Doom 3 RTX port, where everything that looked like plastic (so everything Laughing ) is converted into mirrors. Laughing


Laughing

Mirrors and shadows, that would be interesting mindfuck.
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Oct 2019 22:05    Post subject:
I would really dig seeing Doom 3 RTX Laughing


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ClifftonBeach




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Oct 2019 06:12    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
That would mean all those suggestions I've read bout F.E.A.R., Half-Life, Deus Ex, whatever, they are not really possible.

maybe for Deus Ex and UT99. The whole source is not out there, but enough to allow for new renderers, of which there are several already. Not sure if being able to create a new renderer is enough, they may need info from other parts of the game to do more than screen-space, but maybe. Here's hoping!
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sip74




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Oct 2019 06:35    Post subject:
Just give me Unreal RTX and i'm happy
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Amadeus




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Oct 2019 10:00    Post subject:
ClifftonBeach wrote:
consolitis wrote:
That would mean all those suggestions I've read bout F.E.A.R., Half-Life, Deus Ex, whatever, they are not really possible.

maybe for Deus Ex and UT99. The whole source is not out there, but enough to allow for new renderers, of which there are several already. Not sure if being able to create a new renderer is enough, they may need info from other parts of the game to do more than screen-space, but maybe. Here's hoping!


Well I mean the source code doesnt have to be public does it. As long as the developer or someone still has the source code internally Nvidia can just license it.
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Oct 2019 12:37    Post subject:
Licensing costs money. This is bound to be a very small team, with a very limited budget. But let's see.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2019 22:40    Post subject:
Some really good updates to the visuals released by nvidia: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/quake-ii-rtx-v1-2-update/


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2019 23:12    Post subject:


I really like this new version.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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