What a creepy time to be alive
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Sep 2019 09:39    Post subject: What a creepy time to be alive
If you're not semi competent in how to use a computer, everyone will know everything you do. Want to listen to some music? Yeah, people will look at what you listen to. Want to play a game? Yup, people will fucking observe your game and jump in to nag you, even if you'd just like to play in peace. That's not the worst though, now people can monitor your damn location too. New tool to use in abusive relationships and creepy over protective parents.

Yep, just had to let that out.
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couleur
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Sep 2019 09:44    Post subject:
Noone sees what I listen to or play afaik and noone knows my location, except maybe Apple in some way.

But I see what you mean. Social networking in everything, from music to gaming to doing sports to going for a drink, to eat or go on vacation, makes people behave like constantly needing to prove something to someone eventhough everyone is really just interested in themselves. Like we're beeing in this individualist kind of communist nightmare.

We're just one small step away from social rating systems, where, if you dont participate, you're out of the loop in alot of things. Got me thinking, last time, when I took an uber and had to rate the guy 5 stars. Its creeping me out aswell.


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Sep 2019 14:13    Post subject:
The funniest part is wsome of us "old" fucks realizing this, but people younger and older not even having a clue of their daily online footprint Surprised


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Sep 2019 14:29    Post subject:
It's sad because I see some people going under in that social pressure.

My sister in law being about 15 years younger, used to be a bright and fun kid... these days a sad sack of depression and not realising it. Becoming more and more instragram twat than the person she used to be.

So many of her age giving up their identity to try and please their 'friends'. Sad
To some extent that has always been true, to be accepted by the clique. But it just goes so much further than what I saw when growing up. Probably because they are always in the spotlight.


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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Sep 2019 14:43    Post subject:
Toni is right, it's our generation that are somewhat digital natives - not as much as the younger generation - but we are the ones that saw everything evolve directly. We had the shitty modems and we know what the internet was like before Smartphones happened. We were using computers at a time when you still had to be somewhat a nerd and competent with technology and we know what games were like before microtransactions. The older people are still ignorant of course, but it's the young ones that are least aware and getting sucked in the most.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Sep 2019 15:22    Post subject:
the scariest shit is stuff like snapchat, that shows your location on a freaking map almost down to the exact street and house ... its like a stalker/serial killer wet dream ....

how stupid are people ... like sheep to wolves
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jackbomb




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Sep 2019 20:20    Post subject:
Oh, everytime I bring this up I'm told "what do I have to hide?"


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Sep 2019 21:19    Post subject:
jackbomb wrote:
Oh, everytime I bring this up I'm told "what do I have to hide?"


Scary development. It's not even only imbeciles who use that line. Most can throw that line when it suits their agenda.
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AwE




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Sep 2019 23:53    Post subject:
jackbomb wrote:
Oh, everytime I bring this up I'm told "what do I have to hide?"


Anser them:
„Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.“
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Sep 2019 01:23    Post subject:
Reminds me of Windows 10.
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TheZor
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Sep 2019 08:05    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
The funniest part is wsome of us "old" fucks realizing this, but people younger and older not even having a clue of their daily online footprint Surprised


Yeah... We tend to be that in-between, we have seen the Internet grow and become what it is today - I personally miss the times of total freedom, but it was bound to stop when it became mainstream.
Younger people do have some idea that their every online move is recorded in some way, but they've just come to ignore/accept it as "part of the deal", without questioning much of it.

jackbomb wrote:
Oh, everytime I bring this up I'm told "what do I have to hide?"


The most common response indeed.. That's when you know their indoctrination has fully worked, reversal of the responsability Sad
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flipp




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Sep 2019 09:51    Post subject:
I remember during MIRC times some people were shocked that we knew their full name, now everyone just registers everywhere with every information fully visible.
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AnarchoS




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Sep 2019 13:30    Post subject:
Mirc you probably meant irc, in dos, right, when while you were talking to a person your sister would pick up the phone to cal her friend and break the connection, damn it. Very Happy

There were so little things to do at the begining, we were one of the first countries that every student could connect to the internet, free.... ok excluding the phone bill Smile .


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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Sep 2019 13:32    Post subject:
You make me feel old, I'm still using mIRC every day for downloading shit via xdcc
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AnarchoS




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Sep 2019 13:35    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
You make me feel old, I'm still using mIRC every day for downloading shit via xdcc


So mirc still exists? I used to have a channel bot on irc to mentain the channel, things probably changed with all the graphical enhancments that you "whipper snappers" now use. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Sep 2019 13:42    Post subject:
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Sep 2019 13:43    Post subject:
It still looks exactly the same Laughing
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Sep 2019 15:37    Post subject:
its quite some work to delete the footprint i left behind, but slowly im getting there, deleting any tweets or fb or reddit posts, a dozen or so youtube comments, old mails in old accounts, nothing worth keeping, nothing good can come of it, it can only be used against u in the future, it has served its purpose, delete it all

frankly even all posts i made here eventually will all need to go from my pov, id wish forums would automaticly delete stuff after x years, unless u tell it to not delete it.
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Sep 2019 01:26    Post subject:
I deleted my Facebook account 6 years ago, guess what? It still remains, despite me going through it with a fine tooth comb, deleting all info & pics, deleting everything, closing account, but it still remains.

The only reason I know that, is because someone else told me so, although very little to be seen, it still remains, and a few pics. Wink

Yeah.
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Reg67




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Sep 2019 09:02    Post subject:
He is right, I am old enough to remember no home computers , internet or mobile phones, it was great fun being a kid as you could go out and stay out all day getting up all sorts of shit.
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red_avatar




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Sep 2019 15:04    Post subject:
What pisses me off, is how they treat the elderly in all this.

My grandfather is 93 and is largely self-sufficient together with my grandmother but so much of life has become tied to computers that they feel imprisoned. Banks being greedy cunts have removed their counters so if you enter a bank you no longer see anyone to talk to. You see a row of machines. Want help? Tough luck, you need to make an appointment online or call them and go through 20 steps from a computerised menu before you can actually talk to someone who will then make an appointment with you so you can go to the bank to be allowed inside to.

And then we have health care. You enter the hospital and on the floor are coloured lines. No counters here either. A row of machines. You need to insert your passport, go through a menu and a tiny little ticket is printed which says where you need to go and what line to follow. A flock of bewildered elderly are always to be seen around these machines and helpful younger people are constantly helping them. All to save money, all to reduce personnel. Always at the detriment of the elderly who need help the most. It's fucking disgusting. It's perfectly possible to marry the two systems but don't take away the counters you greedy pricks.

All of this is the result of cut backs due to increasing costs mainly from mass immigration and then Greta the immature ignorant cunt (who is pro-immigration like her parents) wants us to increase costs even more! It's not the rich who will suffer, it will be more cost cutting for the elderly, the poor, the unemployed.
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Yondaime
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Sep 2019 15:21    Post subject:
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Sep 2019 15:27    Post subject:
the elderly chose this faith themselves in the west, in the east, they move in with their kids and their kids take care of them in a cycle, first 25years they take care of u 25 years alopne, last 25years u take care of them
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red_avatar




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Sep 2019 15:43    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
the elderly chose this faith themselves in the west, in the east, they move in with their kids and their kids take care of them in a cycle, first 25years they take care of u 25 years alopne, last 25years u take care of them


In the East, the wife mostly still stays at home to take care of them. Rolling Eyes
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Sep 2019 16:03    Post subject:
red_avatar wrote:
PickupArtist wrote:
the elderly chose this faith themselves in the west, in the east, they move in with their kids and their kids take care of them in a cycle, first 25years they take care of u 25 years alopne, last 25years u take care of them


In the East, the wife mostly still stays at home to take care of them. Rolling Eyes


And in the east they're likely more than happy with this arrangenent, but you know, we westerns know everything and our standards of life is the only correct way.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Sep 2019 16:04    Post subject:
actually, franky i think a machine is better then a human, ive seen countless times how bank employees try to rip off elderly people when they were asked questions about loans or financial advice, and these days all u need is a smartphone with the right apps, if kids can do it, so can elderly, just teach them and dont keep doing it for them , cause they get lazy and expect u to do it for them. They become like kids again the older they get , u need to adapt to that and teach them like u would teach a kid, making sure they practice and do it themselves. or they wont learn

increase the font size, make sure they have a sim card with a limited internet , and they are all set. If they too stubborn to learn ... whatever , i bet u they reading all the newspaper drama shit tough in the tiniest font
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inz




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PostPosted: Sun, 29th Sep 2019 17:50    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
the elderly chose this faith themselves in the west, in the east, they move in with their kids and their kids take care of them in a cycle, first 25years they take care of u 25 years alopne, last 25years u take care of them


Pfeh, dumping old timers into retirement prisons is the better arrangement if you ask me - they all smell bad anyway and who'd want that in their own homes. Cool Face
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