Cyberpunk 2077 (CD Projekt RED)
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wawrzul




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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Aug 2019 16:29    Post subject:
I feel you. Same with me. Journos don't make excited for the game at all but the aforementioned podcast with Paweł Sasko (Lead Quest Design, made the best quests like Bloody Baron's, The Last Wish and the cheese quest Very Happy ) who is so genuinely excited, driven and evidently loves his job, guys like him are those that my hype go up.

And yeah, i started slowly upgrading the PC. First 2070 super and a new big monitor. Then there's the cpu, ram and power supply :/

EDIT: Maybe there is some of you who liked the song "Chippin' In" from the 2018 demo. There is a cover of it on YT. It has flaws, video portion itself is a bit cringy but it's the closest thing to the song from the demo. I just wish it had the signature falsetto in the verse. Anyway, enjoy :

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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Aug 2019 20:14    Post subject:
The gender slider is gone, guys... er girls... I mean non-binary fellows Cool Face

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For instance, you don’t choose your gender anymore. You don’t choose, ‘I want to be a female or male character’ you now choose a body type. Because we want you to feel free to create any character you want. So you choose your body type and we have two voices, one that’s male sounding, one is female sounding. You can mix and match. You can just connect them any way you want.


https://wccftech.com/cdpr-we-really-want-to-make-cyberpunk-2077-inclusive-something-that-everybody-is-comfortable-playing/



1 and 2 are still amazing.
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Aug 2019 20:23    Post subject:
^ People will just make fun of it like with Saints Row where you could do the same. Especially if you can control the pitch of the voices. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Aug 2019 20:38    Post subject:
Yuri wrote:

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For instance, you don’t choose your gender anymore. You don’t choose, ‘I want to be a female or male character’ you now choose a body type. Because we want you to feel free to create any character you want. So you choose your body type and we have two voices, one that’s male sounding, one is female sounding. You can mix and match. You can just connect them any way you want.


https://wccftech.com/cdpr-we-really-want-to-make-cyberpunk-2077-inclusive-something-that-everybody-is-comfortable-playing/


PREPOSTEROUS! What about sounding like a lesbian, a bisexual, a towel or a tranny?! I want to scream "IT'S MA'AM" in this game!
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Arukardo




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 17:03    Post subject:
What about my rights to choose my own gender? I feel oppressed! Mad Mad Mad
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 17:13    Post subject:
Very gay of CDP...
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 17:16    Post subject:
everyone is bending to resetera politically polite and correct way of gamershate thinking.
These resetera idiots are outraged even at Ion Fury because some dev made a gay joke on discord or there is ogay shampoo or something in the game. These idiots are boycotting the game because of that Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 17:19    Post subject:
Never thought I'd live to see the day that would have even CDPR cowering in fear of all these mentally ill morons. What a sad day. Sad


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vurt




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 17:47    Post subject:
They're probably figuring that doing it like that they will please a few "woke" gaming sites and that will up the overall review scores somewhat. i doubt any gaming site is gonna give it a lesser score due to this detail. There might be a few more negative user reviews but it most likely matters less to them than gaining approval with these woke sites.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 17:48    Post subject:
Well it kind of matches the setting of the game, no? With the body modifications and shit.


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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 17:58    Post subject:
I don't get what's the big deal, it's the same thing in the end but now everyone is...or should be happy.
If you want to play a male character, you chose maly bodytype and male voice, done, all this uproar over nothing is just dumb.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 18:26    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Well it kind of matches the setting of the game, no? With the body modifications and shit.


This, it doesn't seem as shoehorned as in other games. It fits the cyberpunk world.


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 18:30    Post subject:
How many undecided if male or female persons are on this damn planet?!


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 18:34    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
I don't get what's the big deal, it's the same thing in the end but now everyone is...or should be happy.
If you want to play a male character, you chose maly bodytype and male voice, done, all this uproar over nothing is just dumb.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 18:37    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Well it kind of matches the setting of the game, no? With the body modifications and shit.

The_Zeel wrote:
I don't get what's the big deal, it's the same thing in the end but now everyone is...or should be happy.
If you want to play a male character, you chose maly bodytype and male voice, done, all this uproar over nothing is just dumb.

I agree, as long as the player still has the complete choice to be whatever he/she/they/zie/ey/tey/RAH-66 Comanche wants without forced directions everything is fine in my book. Plus it's cyberpunk Razz

Things will change if specific artistic choices will be bent to pander to certain audiences, but so far there is no indication of those (yet). I remember the CD artist behind those recent "controversial" ads for instance being very reasonable about it, politely shutting down the silly offendatrons and the whole fabricated outrage.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 18:43    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
tonizito wrote:
Well it kind of matches the setting of the game, no? With the body modifications and shit.

The_Zeel wrote:
I don't get what's the big deal, it's the same thing in the end but now everyone is...or should be happy.
If you want to play a male character, you chose maly bodytype and male voice, done, all this uproar over nothing is just dumb.

I agree, as long as the player still has the complete choice to be whatever he/she/they/zie/ey/tey/RAH-66 Comanche wants without forced directions everything is fine in my book. Plus it's cyberpunk Razz

Things will change if specific artistic choices will be bent to pander to certain audiences, but so far there is no indication of those (yet). I remember the CD artist behind those recent "controversial" ads for instance being very reasonable about it, politely shutting down the silly offendatrons and the whole fabricated outrage.


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 19:31    Post subject:
BOYCOT THIS SJW BULLSHIT! Pre-order cancelled!!!
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 20:05    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
I don't get what's the big deal, it's the same thing in the end but now everyone is...or should be happy.
If you want to play a male character, you chose maly bodytype and male voice, done, all this uproar over nothing is just dumb.


if you believe its gonna stop with this you're being very naive. games are clearly being politicized more and more, just like movies. i can't believe they're falling for this BS..
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 20:25    Post subject:
I don't see the problem. Its cyberpunk, its all about body modification.

Anyone who thinks the future is going to be bi-gender is delusional. Perfectly fine to be in disagreement with this development, but it won't be stopped ever. CP is just bein realistic.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 20:30    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
The_Zeel wrote:
I don't get what's the big deal, it's the same thing in the end but now everyone is...or should be happy.
If you want to play a male character, you chose maly bodytype and male voice, done, all this uproar over nothing is just dumb.


if you believe its gonna stop with this you're being very naive. games are clearly being politicized more and more, just like movies. i can't believe they're falling for this BS..


That might be more your political bias talking in this situation. Naturally, I don't see you admit that though.


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 20:31    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
The_Zeel wrote:
I don't get what's the big deal, it's the same thing in the end but now everyone is...or should be happy.
If you want to play a male character, you chose maly bodytype and male voice, done, all this uproar over nothing is just dumb.


if you believe its gonna stop with this you're being very naive. games are clearly being politicized more and more, just like movies. i can't believe they're falling for this BS..


Everything can be pushed too far, you're not wrong to be sceptical, cynical or just cautious about the direction games and media are going in general. But in an RPG with character creation, I don't think it is wrong to give players more and more options. I'd go as far as to say if they added shit like cat ears and angel wings in an official capacity (we all know modders would add that if possible), I'd be ok with it. I see this as more options for customization, and it's not just for the sake of inclusiveness, or politics. Just don't do it like Bioware or Ubisoft.

I mean back then a majority of games won't give male characters makeup options. Even though it is a very common practice. Maybe not in everyday, but public appearances, films, photoshoots, etc.
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Yuri




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 22:31    Post subject:
I was wondering why they couldn't add a third option and call it "non-binary" to exist alongside the normal "male" and "female" options. With this third choice, all the character creator options that were limited to males and females would be available.



1 and 2 are still amazing.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2019 01:21    Post subject:
Morphineus wrote:

That might be more your political bias talking in this situation. Naturally, I don't see you admit that though.


what does my "political bias" has to do with the fact that movies and games are being politicized? i wouldn't want games to be pro-Trump or pro-conservative or whatever, it doesn't belong in games.

This has very little to do with it belonging to the cyperpunk universe, yes it might be easier to get away with it than if it was a pure fantasy game, but since it's a recent change and not something which was planned from the start, its easy enough to understand what has happened here.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2019 02:00    Post subject:
It is a cultural thing, not political. So all these decades with a male/female choice we were bigots and now we are seeing the light, thanks to some mentally ill, gender confused people? Why enable them? It is irresponsible, same as the HAAS movement and the instagram thots using photoshop and angles to show off an unrealistic body type.

Anyway, if the game itself isn't an SJW-infected story and doesn't have characters that are carricatures, it's fine. Not like I'm buying AAA 50-70 euro games, that is retarded.

I'm hyped!!!
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vurt




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2019 03:37    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
It is a cultural thing, not political.


It's 100% political, these Reset Era types arent even gamers for the most part, they're political activists. Just browsing a few threads there and no one ever really writes "i was gonna buy the game, but now i won't" instead you see posts like "i wasnt gonna buy it anyways" and in the case of Ion Fury you still would not find any "Good that they listened to us, now i'll buy and support them!", its because they don't give a shit about the games.

Fanboys defends this with "but it can fit within the lore". But this is not why CDP changed it, they were very clear that the change is because they want the game to be "more inclusive", direct quote. i'm not sure how that works though.. IRL it's just alienating to 99.9% of the population since most people do not consider themsevles gender-fluid or non-binary. they'll sure make those 0.01% people happy though because they're the ones they want to represent.
Nah, fucking derps, even fanboys should see it. It would be one thing if this was a deep lore within CP, but afaik its something they came up with now,in a rush to please 0.001% of their buyers + some "woke" gaming sites.

I'll play it anyways but its one of these things that can make me wonder if its a company i want to support with my money.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2019 03:52    Post subject:
I should have said "my annoyance with this decision is cultural, not political"
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vurt




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2019 04:02    Post subject:
Ok.

I'm just curious what their train of thought was here.. It's not exactly a road to success, plenty of movies (and a few games now too i believe) have shown it. I really hope they will stop here or rethink this.

Edit: so at least it seems like some people you meet have a fixed gender, that's good. But they also write that they're "open to feedback" (=open to political brainwash) and they also write that the company is very diverse ("please don't hurt us! we didn't do anything wrong!!!"). Fucking pussies.
So basically they've gone totally UBI-tard. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2019 04:31    Post subject:
As long as they don't shove SJW shit down our throat in the actual game, we're good.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2019 05:32    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
As long as they don't shove SJW shit down our throat in the actual game, we're good.


You mean like having non-white characters and women who aren't there to just bang either protag?


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