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wawrzul
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Posted: Tue, 27th Aug 2019 20:14 Post subject: |
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The gender slider is gone, guys... er girls... I mean non-binary fellows
Quote: | For instance, you don’t choose your gender anymore. You don’t choose, ‘I want to be a female or male character’ you now choose a body type. Because we want you to feel free to create any character you want. So you choose your body type and we have two voices, one that’s male sounding, one is female sounding. You can mix and match. You can just connect them any way you want. |
https://wccftech.com/cdpr-we-really-want-to-make-cyberpunk-2077-inclusive-something-that-everybody-is-comfortable-playing/
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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Posted: Tue, 27th Aug 2019 20:38 Post subject: |
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PREPOSTEROUS! What about sounding like a lesbian, a bisexual, a towel or a tranny?! I want to scream "IT'S MA'AM" in this game!
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 17:03 Post subject: |
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vurt
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 17:13 Post subject: |
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vurt
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 17:47 Post subject: |
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They're probably figuring that doing it like that they will please a few "woke" gaming sites and that will up the overall review scores somewhat. i doubt any gaming site is gonna give it a lesser score due to this detail. There might be a few more negative user reviews but it most likely matters less to them than gaining approval with these woke sites.
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tonizito
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 17:48 Post subject: |
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Well it kind of matches the setting of the game, no? With the body modifications and shit.
boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 17:58 Post subject: |
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I don't get what's the big deal, it's the same thing in the end but now everyone is...or should be happy.
If you want to play a male character, you chose maly bodytype and male voice, done, all this uproar over nothing is just dumb.
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Morphineus
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 18:26 Post subject: |
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tonizito wrote: | Well it kind of matches the setting of the game, no? With the body modifications and shit. |
This, it doesn't seem as shoehorned as in other games. It fits the cyberpunk world.
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 18:30 Post subject: |
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How many undecided if male or female persons are on this damn planet?!
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 18:34 Post subject: |
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The_Zeel wrote: | I don't get what's the big deal, it's the same thing in the end but now everyone is...or should be happy.
If you want to play a male character, you chose maly bodytype and male voice, done, all this uproar over nothing is just dumb. | +1
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ixigia
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 18:37 Post subject: |
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tonizito wrote: | Well it kind of matches the setting of the game, no? With the body modifications and shit. |
The_Zeel wrote: | I don't get what's the big deal, it's the same thing in the end but now everyone is...or should be happy.
If you want to play a male character, you chose maly bodytype and male voice, done, all this uproar over nothing is just dumb. |
I agree, as long as the player still has the complete choice to be whatever he/she/they/zie/ey/tey/RAH-66 Comanche wants without forced directions everything is fine in my book. Plus it's cyberpunk
Things will change if specific artistic choices will be bent to pander to certain audiences, but so far there is no indication of those (yet). I remember the CD artist behind those recent "controversial" ads for instance being very reasonable about it, politely shutting down the silly offendatrons and the whole fabricated outrage.
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 19:31 Post subject: |
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BOYCOT THIS SJW BULLSHIT! Pre-order cancelled!!!
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vurt
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 20:05 Post subject: |
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The_Zeel wrote: | I don't get what's the big deal, it's the same thing in the end but now everyone is...or should be happy.
If you want to play a male character, you chose maly bodytype and male voice, done, all this uproar over nothing is just dumb. |
if you believe its gonna stop with this you're being very naive. games are clearly being politicized more and more, just like movies. i can't believe they're falling for this BS..
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 20:25 Post subject: |
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I don't see the problem. Its cyberpunk, its all about body modification.
Anyone who thinks the future is going to be bi-gender is delusional. Perfectly fine to be in disagreement with this development, but it won't be stopped ever. CP is just bein realistic.
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Morphineus
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 20:30 Post subject: |
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vurt wrote: | The_Zeel wrote: | I don't get what's the big deal, it's the same thing in the end but now everyone is...or should be happy.
If you want to play a male character, you chose maly bodytype and male voice, done, all this uproar over nothing is just dumb. |
if you believe its gonna stop with this you're being very naive. games are clearly being politicized more and more, just like movies. i can't believe they're falling for this BS.. |
That might be more your political bias talking in this situation. Naturally, I don't see you admit that though.
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 20:31 Post subject: |
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vurt wrote: | The_Zeel wrote: | I don't get what's the big deal, it's the same thing in the end but now everyone is...or should be happy.
If you want to play a male character, you chose maly bodytype and male voice, done, all this uproar over nothing is just dumb. |
if you believe its gonna stop with this you're being very naive. games are clearly being politicized more and more, just like movies. i can't believe they're falling for this BS.. |
Everything can be pushed too far, you're not wrong to be sceptical, cynical or just cautious about the direction games and media are going in general. But in an RPG with character creation, I don't think it is wrong to give players more and more options. I'd go as far as to say if they added shit like cat ears and angel wings in an official capacity (we all know modders would add that if possible), I'd be ok with it. I see this as more options for customization, and it's not just for the sake of inclusiveness, or politics. Just don't do it like Bioware or Ubisoft.
I mean back then a majority of games won't give male characters makeup options. Even though it is a very common practice. Maybe not in everyday, but public appearances, films, photoshoots, etc.
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Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 22:31 Post subject: |
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I was wondering why they couldn't add a third option and call it "non-binary" to exist alongside the normal "male" and "female" options. With this third choice, all the character creator options that were limited to males and females would be available.
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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vurt
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Posted: Thu, 29th Aug 2019 01:21 Post subject: |
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Morphineus wrote: |
That might be more your political bias talking in this situation. Naturally, I don't see you admit that though. |
what does my "political bias" has to do with the fact that movies and games are being politicized? i wouldn't want games to be pro-Trump or pro-conservative or whatever, it doesn't belong in games.
This has very little to do with it belonging to the cyperpunk universe, yes it might be easier to get away with it than if it was a pure fantasy game, but since it's a recent change and not something which was planned from the start, its easy enough to understand what has happened here.
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Posted: Thu, 29th Aug 2019 02:00 Post subject: |
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It is a cultural thing, not political. So all these decades with a male/female choice we were bigots and now we are seeing the light, thanks to some mentally ill, gender confused people? Why enable them? It is irresponsible, same as the HAAS movement and the instagram thots using photoshop and angles to show off an unrealistic body type.
Anyway, if the game itself isn't an SJW-infected story and doesn't have characters that are carricatures, it's fine. Not like I'm buying AAA 50-70 euro games, that is retarded.
I'm hyped!!!
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vurt
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Posted: Thu, 29th Aug 2019 03:37 Post subject: |
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VGAdeadcafe wrote: | It is a cultural thing, not political. |
It's 100% political, these Reset Era types arent even gamers for the most part, they're political activists. Just browsing a few threads there and no one ever really writes "i was gonna buy the game, but now i won't" instead you see posts like "i wasnt gonna buy it anyways" and in the case of Ion Fury you still would not find any "Good that they listened to us, now i'll buy and support them!", its because they don't give a shit about the games.
Fanboys defends this with "but it can fit within the lore". But this is not why CDP changed it, they were very clear that the change is because they want the game to be "more inclusive", direct quote. i'm not sure how that works though.. IRL it's just alienating to 99.9% of the population since most people do not consider themsevles gender-fluid or non-binary. they'll sure make those 0.01% people happy though because they're the ones they want to represent.
Nah, fucking derps, even fanboys should see it. It would be one thing if this was a deep lore within CP, but afaik its something they came up with now,in a rush to please 0.001% of their buyers + some "woke" gaming sites.
I'll play it anyways but its one of these things that can make me wonder if its a company i want to support with my money.
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Posted: Thu, 29th Aug 2019 03:52 Post subject: |
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I should have said "my annoyance with this decision is cultural, not political"
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vurt
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Posted: Thu, 29th Aug 2019 04:31 Post subject: |
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As long as they don't shove SJW shit down our throat in the actual game, we're good.
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Posted: Thu, 29th Aug 2019 05:32 Post subject: |
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VGAdeadcafe wrote: | As long as they don't shove SJW shit down our throat in the actual game, we're good. |
You mean like having non-white characters and women who aren't there to just bang either protag?
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