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| jainischalverma wrote: | Its not your fault Crash. You are not very old (how old are u...13..14 perhaps, as I can make out from your spellings) enough to understand the depth and seriousness of this issue. Escaping by saying that you are sick and you find it funny just shows your morality.
If you find this video funny, then no one will believe this fact that you will take the sufferings of real people seriously. So just grow up mate. Thats all you need to understand things in life. |
no ofcource it whas not funny... but its just a statment I wanted to make...
see how you reacted...
well I react the same way... people give money to save some dogs and dont give a shit when kids of 2 or 3 years old die in afrika because they dont have anything to eat... NOOO than the animal lovers dont watch... cuz they like there cute dogs and dont want anything happend to them... well I say FUCK THEM ... help the people first and dont give a shit about dogs,kats and all other useless animals. Help the people first and donate to the red cross or something. So thats why I think this clip is sad but would rather see people worry about people that die evry day because they cant pay for food,water or medicine. |
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deelix
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deelix
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 17:20 Post subject: |
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| kirkblitz wrote: | This might be bad but did you see the video of us solders shooting dogs for fun? Just wounding them and letting them run off and be target practice  |
that are dogs that have diseases or are just fun to shoot 
lol I saw 1 time guy shot his own dog because he killed some chickens lol...
from close range with gun like this
after that packed him in a trashbag and throw him into the forest... and I am not making this up... in east europe this is very normal  |
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Swinefur
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 18:31 Post subject: |
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I can't believe the people that are doing this can live with themself, that racoon that got skinned alive and survived the process made me a bit sad.
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deelix
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 18:39 Post subject: |
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I know. Those guys can't have feelings. It must be for them as whaling was for us before.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 18:44 Post subject: |
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| Swinefur wrote: | | I can't believe the people that are doing this can live with themself, that racoon that got skinned alive and survived the process made me a bit sad. |
ehmm they survive? By the look of that video it seems like these guys havent quite had the industrial revolution yet. So plain business, which give their family food to eat.
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deelix
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 18:45 Post subject: |
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| Mutantius wrote: | | Swinefur wrote: | | I can't believe the people that are doing this can live with themself, that racoon that got skinned alive and survived the process made me a bit sad. |
ehmm they survive? By the look of that video it seems like these guys havent quite had the industrial revolution yet. So plain business, which give their family food to eat. |
yeah, and its still fucking grose, they should atleast make sure everyone is dead before they do their "action"
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 18:53 Post subject: |
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well time is money. Im afraid.
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deelix
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 20:29 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 22:54 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2006 20:46 Post subject: |
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weird... you would of thought the guy skinning the dam thing would break it's neck, it would a dam site easier than skinning it alive, especially if he's earning a living from it...
French farmers are notorious for thier cruelty, like throwinging livestock on their backs and hacking their legs of while their alive... I believe this is still quite common...
Ever seen a horse gutted... I have, while it was standing upright... wow made me vegatarian for a while...
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Feb 2006 00:45 Post subject: Culled But not humane |
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No animal should be skinned while still alive.I often hunt and shoot rabbits at many farmers requests.
But i always go for a clean head or heart shot,and within the range of my rifle.
On the rare occasion i miss the vital head/heart.And only wound the rabbit,i will dispatch it as soon as possible.
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kosmiq
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Feb 2006 01:15 Post subject: |
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IMO killing animals is fine aslong as it is for food or to ensure that they don't get to many thus fucking up the balance and stuff.
An animal should never have to suffer no matter what animal it is and what it has done. If for some reason you badly hurt an animal getting it killed fast and clean should be priority.
And NO I haven't watched the damn movie yet and I won't.
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The Rat
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Feb 2006 01:26 Post subject: |
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| -=Cartoon=- wrote: | " Canada’s Baby Seal Slaughter
Canada allowed hunters to kill more than 300,000 baby seals this year—one of the largest quotas in history."
wtf |
Sure you think those baby seals are cute and cuddly but in reality they have very sharp teeth and are vicious killers. Over 10,000 human babies go missing every year and the only thing that is found at the crime scene are a couple of fish and a large ball.
Right now Canada is at orange alert and we are on the lookout for roving bands of terrorist seals. Protect your children!
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kosmiq
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Feb 2006 11:46 Post subject: |
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| The Rat wrote: |
Sure you think those baby seals are cute and cuddly but in reality they have very sharp teeth and are vicious killers. Over 10,000 human babies go missing every year and the only thing that is found at the crime scene are a couple of fish and a large ball.
Right now Canada is at orange alert and we are on the lookout for roving bands of terrorist seals. Protect your children! |
uhm yeah... suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.....
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Feb 2006 19:04 Post subject: |
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| kosmiq wrote: | | The Rat wrote: |
Sure you think those baby seals are cute and cuddly but in reality they have very sharp teeth and are vicious killers. Over 10,000 human babies go missing every year and the only thing that is found at the crime scene are a couple of fish and a large ball.
Right now Canada is at orange alert and we are on the lookout for roving bands of terrorist seals. Protect your children! |
uhm yeah... suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure..... |
he's right tho, even tho it comes across a lil weird, they are dangerous and will attack you.....still, seal hunting, unless its for population control should be illegal.
Like, every 5 years have a month or 2 where u can hunt them, after they've had a few years to let their off spring grow and shit like that.
Killing baby seals and the mothers is a sure fire way to exterminate them |
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Feb 2006 19:53 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: |
he's right tho, even tho it comes across a lil weird, they are dangerous and will attack you.....still, seal hunting, unless its for population control should be illegal.
Like, every 5 years have a month or 2 where u can hunt them, after they've had a few years to let their off spring grow and shit like that.
Killing baby seals and the mothers is a sure fire way to exterminate them |
I was more thinking about the "all that is found at the crime scene are a couple of fish and a large ball" and maybe this little thing "over 10,000 human babies go missing"...
Like the seals would even manage to eat 10,000 babies...
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Feb 2006 00:31 Post subject: |
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so, you re still discussing this, but at lunch-time you happily wolf down a burger or two?
If you have been to a slaughterhouse or have seen footage of it, you ll know that nearly always animals are suffering. The stench of death makes most of them insane and many arent dead when they get chopped up. So dont be all high and mighty and say, fur is bad, meat is good. Both lead to immense suffering for animals worldwide. Just look at how many animals die because of fucked-up transportation.
I wont go into the ethical side of it, as it s an argument that is based on axioms you have to choose for yourself and which arent self-evident or proofable to be right.
But there are different reasons why killing animals for food is wrong:
] the energy-argument: Feeding animals is bioenergetically bad, as the energy in grain is edible by humans themselves and if you d stop feeding the animals, you could easily feed the whole planet. Bam - No more famine! Even a reduction in meat-production would help alot. This excludes animals mainly in mountainous areas which are fed with gras which isnt edible by humans anyways. In that sense this argument is mainly tailored against mass-meat production as you lose over 90% of the energy compared to giving it to the people directly
] one health argument: The meat of today is unhealthy because of its mass-production, leading to antibiotics and other stuff in your meat that is undesirable. Diseases like mad-cow, scrapies bird-flu and the like are also likely to be either caused by bad animal foods (mad cow) or being helped by the bad shape the animals are in, because of the boot-camp like upbringing making the imune-systems susceptible to sicknesses usually thwarted by the animals.
] another health argument: eating huge amounts of meat is unhealthy as the human digestive system is that of a vegetarian. The teeth arent predator-like and the digestive tract is far too long in comparison to carnivores. This meanst that the meat is staying too long in your body (7-12h) in comparison to carnivores (2-4h) which means it s rotting inside your body, leaving poisonous material especially in your colon, which is the leading cause of colon-cancer. Vegetatians never get this.
] yet another health-reason: As with the rotting thingy, all meat leaves different kinds of material inside your body. Especially eating intestines liver leads to certain diseases. Pork for example often leads to arthralgia. On a side-note, eating alot of meat also makes people way more aggressive.
So in short. Eating meat is not the natural nourishment for the human digestive system but as with dairy products evolution seems to have favoured those that could digest meat also. In small amounts it can be healthy but eating it daily is surely bad for most of the people, especially those that dont get physical workout everyday at their jobs. If your job is physically taxing, eating meat daily might be healthier, but in all other cases it s most likely not.
So fur or no fur, consider changing your diet 
Thats my two cents on this.
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Feb 2006 00:45 Post subject: |
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if you want to be strong like us,
eating your veggies is a must!
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Feb 2006 00:54 Post subject: |
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| Nailbiter wrote: | if you want to be strong like us,
eating your veggies is a must! |
hahahaha, good one |
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Feb 2006 04:35 Post subject: |
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holy shit! those people must be fucked up in the head. I can't believe they reall do that : (
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Feb 2006 05:43 Post subject: |
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that's horrible. I've seen animals being killed before but in a much more humane way.
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Feb 2006 06:35 Post subject: |
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people who kill animals like that should be stuck in a cage with a fully grown polar bear and told "skin this bitch"
| Quote: | | IMO killing animals is fine aslong as it is for food or to ensure that they don't get to many thus fucking up the balance and stuff. |
someone should come along and kill most of us humans then because there are way to many and humans have made more shit exstinct than any animal species has
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Feb 2006 13:53 Post subject: |
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this is too sad...
now i understand militant activists
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Feb 2006 22:21 Post subject: |
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| Lutzifer wrote: | so, you re still discussing this, but at lunch-time you happily wolf down a burger or two?
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I'd have no problem eating a seal burger, as long as it wasnt killing off the seal population.
Cows are meant to be eatin. As are pigs and chickens and shit. its the circle of life. They eat stuff, we eat them...thats how it works. As long as cows are plentiful, I will eat them and enjoy it. Steak, burgers etc are awesome.
Dont get me wrong, i do respect the fact that an animal gave its life to nurish me. But thats the nature of things you know? We eat some animals and others we dont. |
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Lutzifer
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i know Syco, and i dont want to tell anybody to stop eating meat. But please keep the sympathy down on fur-killing if you re being accomplice to senseless suffering and murder by eating mass-produced meat. It s just hypocritical to do so, as it marginalizes animal suffering on the one hand and doesnt fit the "oh-my-god-teh-p00r-furry-animals" attitiude towards movies like the above. If you condone one, dont bother criticizing the other...
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Feb 2006 22:36 Post subject: |
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| Lutzifer wrote: | | i know Syco, and i dont want to tell anybody to stop eating meat. But please keep the sympathy down on fur-killing if you re being accomplice to senseless suffering and murder by eating mass-produced meat. It s just hypocritical to do so, as it marginalizes animal suffering on the one hand and doesnt fit the "oh-my-god-teh-p00r-furry-animals" attitiude towards movies like the above. If you condone one, dont bother criticizing the other... |
How does killing a cow to use ALL of it, not only the hide but the meat and bones and shit the same as killing a seal only for its hide, then discarding meat that could be used to feed the hungry? how do u even compare one another? eating a cow that was bread for exactly that purpose, is so much more different than hunting an animal in the wild, only for its hide... |
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