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 Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2013 17:01 Post subject: GNU/Linux |
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how many nfohumpers joined the free software community in 2013?
i am a 100% Debian GNU/Linux user without dual booting windows and without running windows in a virtualbox. i am only forced to use win7 laptop for my work....
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2013 17:51 Post subject: |
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I moved more to BSD/Unix. 
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2013 18:22 Post subject: |
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I tried it multiple times in the past, but in the end always got back to windowz :\
Adobe isn't linux friendly :\
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2013 18:34 Post subject: |
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| dingo_d wrote: | | Adobe isn't linux friendly :\ |
Nor is almost anything else. |
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2013 19:01 Post subject: |
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Only times I used it was for work or servers for personal use. For the rest I couldn't give a rats ass, I'll take windows gladly on my pc (every two releases  ) instead of trying to twist a triangle in a square hole to make everything work 
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2013 19:15 Post subject: |
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if it wasnt for gaming i would have made the switch to 100% linux, but for whatever faults windows has i know it and can solve problems on it easely, not true for linux.
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Jan 2014 01:41 Post subject: |
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SteamOS should hopefully change the PC gaming world for the better and we can all finally make the move to *nix.
GABEN!
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fisk
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Jan 2014 16:45 Post subject: |
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Linux has its purposes.
And perhaps in the future it may be useful in more professional environments.
But that day is not today.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Jan 2014 18:03 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | Win7x64 works perfect for me. The only thing that annoys me are the several locations where apps store their shit.
Why the hell would I migrate ? I recently set up a CentOS so I could put in a little AMP stack, but working in cmdline is cumbersome so I used the package manager to install a GUI -> that shit don't work right nigga |
But it's not free!
You know ... let's talk about freedom on a piracy board where everything here is pirated but let's try to make ourselves appear cool by throwing around bullshit like "100% free", instead of using everything else that was 100% free.  |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Jan 2014 22:45 Post subject: |
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| Guy_Incognito wrote: | | Quote: | | Why the hell would I migrate ? I recently set up a CentOS so I could put in a little AMP stack, but working in cmdline is cumbersome so I used the package manager to install a GUI -> that shit don't work right nigga |
So you want to administer a web/sql server but you are bothered with the command line? Good job. |
Under perfect circumstances, nothing should require CLI crap. |
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Jan 2014 23:08 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Under perfect circumstances, nothing should require CLI crap. |
Jesus man, level of computer derpiness coming out of you has skyrocketed since you switched to Mac.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Jan 2014 23:38 Post subject: |
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| Guy_Incognito wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | Under perfect circumstances, nothing should require CLI crap. |
Jesus man, level of computer derpiness coming out of you has skyrocketed since you switched to Mac. |
No, that has always been my view. CLI is to the possible minimum. In fact I have to go more in to the terminal in Mac than I have to in Windows, and I don't like that at all. |
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Jan 2014 23:51 Post subject: |
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CLI is THE most powerfull tool for administering a server. Why would Microsoft bother with enhancing PowerShell anyway?
Writing scripts is the fastest way to automatize stuff since it relies only on grepping and redirecting text, insanely simple and elegant if you can overcome basic POSIX shell constructs. I don't see a viable (and fast) alternative if your job goes beyond running one or two processes and simple logging.
The problem with AMP servers is not in the command line, it's in badly documented config files with their own made-up structure. It has nothing to do with CLI. CLI can be elegant.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jan 2014 00:51 Post subject: I have left. |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jan 2014 01:01 Post subject: |
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| Guy_Incognito wrote: | CLI is THE most powerfull tool for administering a server. Why would Microsoft bother with enhancing PowerShell anyway?
Writing scripts is the fastest way to automatize stuff since it relies only on grepping and redirecting text, insanely simple and elegant if you can overcome basic POSIX shell constructs. I don't see a viable (and fast) alternative if your job goes beyond running one or two processes and simple logging.
The problem with AMP servers is not in the command line, it's in badly documented config files with their own made-up structure. It has nothing to do with CLI. CLI can be elegant. |
I said "under perfect circumstances". Also, in the examples above you mentioned a web and SQL server. Neither of these require CLI to configure (or again, under perfect circumstances).
Why does Microsoft enhance PowerShell? Because some of its tools are ridiculous in the UI department. Tried to configure an Exchange server? The Management Console is so bad, you might as well just do it from the commandline with PowerShell. How is this optimal?  The lack of good UI does not make the CLI good, it makes it the least bad. That's not optimal. |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jan 2014 01:51 Post subject: |
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| Guy_Incognito wrote: | | The problem with AMP servers is not in the command line, it's in badly documented config files with their own made-up structure. |
What?
When it comes to AMP there's nothing custom or undocumented. Apache + MySQL use conf, PHP uses INI.
Now had you said Nginx with its pseudo scripting (or Varnish), or Postcrapsql which has shit docs next to its (up to recently in 9.3) utterly retarded reliance on fucking kernel parameters, then yes. But AMP? No, it doesn't get much easier than that.
Nor does it require the CLI on Linux or Windows; only does on OS X if you want some control over the version and thus need to replace Apple's crap. |
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If it's regular "name value" pairs with Apache confs, I wouldn't complain. But when I see that horrendous mixture of conventional conf and XML-like shit, my stomach starts to turn. But I'm not sysadmin, I use AMP only seldomly for basic testing, so luckily I don't have to see those files often...
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Werelds
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Well they need some block structure, which conf doesn't have. And INI sections wouldn't suffice, as there's no nesting. Nginx's looks cleaner perhaps, but poorly documented? Fuck no.
The actual config in Apache is just name/value pairs. The XML like bits are just for block control.
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Invasor
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Stige
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Nvidia still remains the only reasonable GPU option under Linux it seems :l
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Saner
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Anyone know anything about mod_mono xsp and what not.
I'm really fucking baffled
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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Invasor
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Jun 2016 19:04 Post subject: |
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| Saner wrote: | Anyone know anything about mod_mono xsp and what not.
I'm really fucking baffled |
No idea, but make a topic, maybe someone can help and it's not very visible here...
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