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russ80




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Sep 2018 16:09    Post subject:
So 2 370s every 2 weeks? Spamming rares for 340+? Pvping for 360+? World boss for 355+
Feels like m+ and normal even some hc raiding are pointless too soon . M0 totally pointless too after 3 weeks for any new char. Hating cause there’s so much free gear everywhere for crappy players, which kinda fucks up the pug scene even more with overinflated ilvl on people that shouldnt have it.


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Sep 2018 16:12    Post subject:
I'm just surprised that you're getting angry at it "now". To me, you're like literally 10 years late with that Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Sep 2018 16:17    Post subject:
"Why hate so much?"

Because he wants to feel better than everyone else. Laughing
Frankly I don't care what others are getting and just do the things I enjoy.

It's all stuff that gets replaced anyway.


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Sep 2018 16:25    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
I'm just surprised that you're getting angry at it "now". To me, you're like literally 10 years late with that Laughing


Barely played since wotlk or so, mostly just popping in clearing hc with pugs, some pvp then byebye.

But its even worse than it was in legion. Been ‘angry’ since wotlk... its getting worse every xp.

Morphineus wrote:
"Why hate so much?"

Because he wants to feel better than everyone else. Laughing
Frankly I don't care what others are getting and just do the things I enjoy.

It's all stuff that gets replaced anyway.


More like it devalues the harder activities ingame if you can get same gear by doing easier stuff, so makes those activities pointless = not worth playing the game so unsub til next xp (in case anything changes)

Also the ilvl inflation on people that shouldnt have that gear joining pugs and shitting up the lfg m+s/raids.


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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Sep 2018 16:31    Post subject:
Soooo "wanting to feel better than everyone else" is deplorable in an MMORPG nowadays...

Seems about right. Actually would explain alot. Dat sweet inclusion..

It's always funny to me that, everytime this discussion about the state of WoW is held, anywhere, the main argument is always WKSJ (wife, kids, steady job).

And yet I'm always wondering where all these WKSJ people I played Vanilla and BC with came from...

Imho, it's just Blizzard being an enabler, to cash in more. Back then you either had to deal with it (the time investment) or it just wasn't for you and you didn't/couldn't.

Nowadays, sooo many people feel like they are entitled to be able to play/enjoy/succeed in any game that comes out. Just because they bought it. Winning should be included in the box... basicly.

Nevermind... this will not lead to anything anyway except people being angry.

*EDIT* Removed the quote because this is actually meant to be more in general and not strictly directed at Morphi.

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On-topic

What pisses me off about this expansion the most is actually how Blizz managed to train 90% of their beloved whales into absolutely disgusting twats...

They advertised OpenWorld PvP alot with this and at the same time introduced Warmode on every server... no one is forced to do PvP anymore if they don't want to. Even on former PvP servers... which everyone knew (or should've known) has PvP always on in neutral zones.

That's already a fucking joke. And they know it. Hence why I assumed they "tried" make having Warmode enabled being a sweeter deal with some bonuses...

And guess what... people just have that shit enabled just to gain the bonuses and both factions are just often enough happily questing/killing/farming away next to each other... you literally have to force people into it most of the time...

This shit makes my blood boil...

And sorry, I don't exclusively blame Blizz for that behaviour. The people are shitheads just as much...


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Sep 2018 16:35    Post subject:
Installed WoW earlier today to give it a go. The gfx made me wanna vomit Wink Not that its ugly - but its just not my kind of style. Too bad, Im sure if I had spent more time it would have been entertaining. Ah well.
Yeah, I know this thread is about the latest expansion.


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Sep 2018 16:55    Post subject:
@Method

Feeling better than others in an MMO is indeed bad. Being better is not. It's usually not the better ones that go around bitching about what others are getting.

You're still not getting the greatest gear in Warfronts. I do agree its too fast to introduce a catch up mechanic a few weeks into the expansion. But the better players, they are past that ilvl and when they pug... they'll just ask higher ilvl's.

I find it a better design to have options. Why not have all the story and content available to everyone? SP games handle this with difficulty settings. WoW does it with its (too many) different modes. If you want challenge: you'll be in front of the pack.

It's the group that is just below the better players that is always bitching about the others getting gear and coming closer. Being rather vile while not really great at the game.


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Sep 2018 17:03    Post subject:
Morphineus wrote:
@Method

Feeling better than others in an MMO is indeed bad. Being better is not. It's usually not the better ones that go around bitching about what others are getting.


Hmm, is this some failed communication?

What exactly do you mean with "feeling better".

When I commented on "feeling better" I meant, being better than the 90%, being rewarded accordingly (which isn't the case imho in this game since 10 years anymore) and therefore, obviously also "feeling better".

That whole ilevel crap is the biggest low ever for people who are still (for whatever reason) are giving their best and invest the most into the game. There should be gear no one else could get unless you pass the challenge. Unique things, stronger things... and that "should be" fine because they "earned" it. They should have earned the right to stand out.

I can't quite see how that is something shameful Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Sep 2018 17:13    Post subject:
Yeah sorry I miss-understood.
What you speak of is still there (watered down compared to ye old days) and no there is nothing wrong with that.

I was talking about Russ.
Russ seems one of those players that isn't actually better and whines on everyone else closing in on him. So he wants people pushed down instead of just being better at the game.

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That whole ilevel crap is the biggest low ever for people who are still (for whatever reason) are giving their best and invest the most into the game. There should be gear no one else could get unless you pass the challenge. Unique things, stronger things... and that "should be" fine because they "earned" it. They should have earned the right to stand out.


I agree. I wouldn't agree on removing it on the next expansion though.


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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Sep 2018 17:29    Post subject:
No biggie mate Razz

I personally, well I wouldn't say I made my peace with it literally... but I kinda (reluctantly) accepted that WoW isn't ticking my MMORPG boxes anymore.

I come back to it every addon though and just play it as an RPG and not an MMORPG anymore. Meaning just questing, lore and stuff.

At least there is Classic on the way. Even though, to be honest... just because I prefer how the game was in Vanilla/BC, doesn't mean I want to be stuck in a timeloop with the same content forever. I didn't love that time so much because of the content exclusively... I loved it because every server was basicly it's own little universe, where you had a reputation as a character/player on the realm. On both factions... stuff like that.

And I don't see them change the main game. Unless ofc Classic turns out to be massively more succesful than the main game, especially if that success can be kept up over a longer period of time. I could see them actually adjust Live then.

But the chance of that happening is almost 0. I just know that 90% of the overhyped people will be gone most likely in the first week of Classic being released.

If that's the case, I hope the "you think you do, but you don't" guy get's his revenge and can proudly say "see, told you so!".


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Sep 2018 17:35    Post subject:
Nope, i know im pretty good considering i was top dps in a eu50 guild until cata, only thing is since then i just cba with raiding in a guild since i dont have the time for fixed raids anymore so i just pug ( hc and some mythic when its an option ). No point pugging now though.

I may seem like but im not ‘one of those players’.

Only bad people whine about better players having better gear. Not like i cry about mythic raid gear if i cant invest the time anymore in it.


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Sep 2018 17:44    Post subject:
" There should be gear no one else could get unless you pass the challenge" what challange is that ? complete every single world quests (75+) every day for three weeks straight, fuck off dude ....


thats not a challange, thats no life zombie bullshit. Pretty much wwhat this whole game has become since its inception. Play how blizzard wants u to play, and dont critize them or their fatboys eat u alive on the forums.

Well now u have the end results of all that fanboysism, a dead outdoor world after just three weeks where everyone just spams warfronts and afks them. RIP

mythics0, dead, world quests, dead, islands, dead, outdoor world, mega dead.

what is left rofl ... leveling and rep grind for some allied races nobody gives a shit about. The allied races dont even have any quests or stories. They gave fucking every class a story in legion for order hall, but for a whole race . nope fuck that, we have to put all our dev team efforts on useles shit.

This expansion was a disgracefull payed beta since the launch of prepatch and will be for the next 4+ months Sad island and warfronts concepts are like something a three year old can make in a flash game.

Also how anyone considers running the same dungeons with different modifiers (mythic+) ' content' is beyond me, its fucking lazy and pispoor n booring as fuck. i ratherafk farm the 340+ warfront slot machine and pray for titanforge hahaha

nah kidding, im getting the transmog and then i let my gold sub run out. thank fuck i only had one month. What a clusterfuck this has been


Classic i have no real hope for, i think they will use a phasing system to simulate it on top of the newest version. Cause their game netcode can not handle 200+ players in same zone. never has, never will. and classic content boiled down to just pispoor rep farm , one mob giving like 4 rep lol
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Sep 2018 08:12    Post subject:
Blizzard hits a home run with World of Warcraft expansion. World of Warcraft made $161M in August following the release of its “Battle of Azeroth” expansion, not including all pre-sales in the months leading up to launch. Subscribers for WoW West hit its highest point since 2014.
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Sep 2018 08:36    Post subject:
tbh this expansion still feels like a beta to me. I stopped playing like a week ago, maybe I'll try it again when 8.1 hits if it fixes anything...


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Oct 2018 17:08    Post subject:
Ugh, that cunt.
But I'm sure he'll say whatever people are saying on the forums. Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Dec 2018 01:26    Post subject:
Every expansion brings in tons of old players that want to check out the new expansion but the trend is clear. WoW peaked with Wrath of Lich King and have lost subs ever since.

This basically describe reality quite well I think:



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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Dec 2018 02:04    Post subject:
i think this time it will be different, they gonna see a drop they have never .seen before, people are tired of their lazy shit and anything blizzard right now is tainted. Also people their tokens are running out from the free gold from legion. combined with recent brand being tainted and the dugust people have with anything blizzard right now . Its carnage time.

also 8.1 fixing nothing and adds very very little for non raiders, and people stop raiding cause their guilds all quit so yeh ... they fucked up bigtime not having single player content ready and thinking people will still accept timegated nonsense

check the downvotes on the survival guide and its comments, unseen downvote ratio in the companies warcraft history.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Mar 2019 07:05    Post subject:
spajdr wrote:
World of Warcraft uses DirectX 12 running on Windows 7

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/directx/2019/03/12/world-of-warcraft-uses-directx-12-running-on-windows-7/

this is fucking hilarious. i had to check if it was april fools, why would they suddenly bring dx12 to win7 after so much whinging about how impossible it was for years. just magic it up out of thin air like it was nothing. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Mar 2019 10:21    Post subject:
jermore wrote:
spajdr wrote:
World of Warcraft uses DirectX 12 running on Windows 7

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/directx/2019/03/12/world-of-warcraft-uses-directx-12-running-on-windows-7/

this is fucking hilarious. i had to check if it was april fools, why would they suddenly bring dx12 to win7 after so much whinging about how impossible it was for years. just magic it up out of thin air like it was nothing. Laughing


Could be that they are providing a "lite" version of it given the likelyhood of WoW not using all of DX12's feature-set.

That might be easier than providing a fully-fledged DX12 for Win 7.

Most likely tho Microsoft is bullshitting either way.

Maybe some cracker-hackers are gonna be able to extract it from WoW and hack it to work with other titles.
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th May 2019 19:16    Post subject:
why they didnt make a goddamn movie like that, in stead of hollywooding that crap from a years back ....

and why does a billion dollar company need 6 months for every 4 mins cinematic .... , dumbfounding how silly they are


how the game really should look like after 15 years ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/bp0qox/wow_20_reborn_with_new_engine_and_wows_cinematic/

and all we get is some shitty classic for 15 euro a month trololol
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th May 2019 20:10    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
why they didnt make a goddamn movie like that, in stead of hollywooding that crap from a years back ....

and why does a billion dollar company need 6 months for every 4 mins cinematic .... , dumbfounding how silly they are


how the game really should look like after 15 years ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/bp0qox/wow_20_reborn_with_new_engine_and_wows_cinematic/

and all we get is some shitty classic for 15 euro a month trololol


Looks like shit honestly the timeless art style is by far the only good thing left in WoW.
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th May 2019 21:27    Post subject:
The latest cinematic doesn't look so good. The environment's textures and the skin stand out because of the lower quality.
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Well who cares as long as classes play like complete shit everything else in the game get's dragged down anyway.
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