Building a silent PC
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 13:18    Post subject: Building a silent PC
Hey guys,

I'm planning on building a new computer for myself and I want it to be ABSOLUTELY silent when browsing or watching videos and to be adequately cooled when playing games or rendering stuff. My current setup does that REALLY well, but it's just so outdated:

(Components that might emit noise are marked with a +)

+ A brand new 620W Seasonic powersupply (upgraded from my 450W Silverstone as it was not powerful enough for the titan)
+ Xeon E3-1231 V3 with Arctic Freezer i11
+ EVGA GTX 970 SSC 2.0 (I reverted back to it, as the Titan X with Accelero Xtreme III wouldn't go below 22% fan speed)
+ 2 x 7200RPM HDD (These fuckers are the only thing emitting sound, so I have to spin them down when I want my computer to be absolutely silent and I mean it, dead silent)
- Cheap computer case with no casefans and totally beat up because I used a plier to make room for the titan
- 2xSSD
- Asrock B85M DGS Board
- 16GB DDR3

As stated before, in regular usage no fan is spinning at all. The Freezer i11 might turn from time to time, but at such low speeds, I could count every single fan blade moving across Laughing The fans of my GTX970 stand still too.

So when I check out silent builds online, the approaches to get your system silent seem so... brute forced! Water cooling components might be great, but the radiator needs to be cooled by fans too, and guess what, those fuckers are loud! Or 4-6 fans in the case? They produce so much sound too! And be quiet!'s approach with foam so that it gets so hot in the case that all the fans need to work harder thus resulting in noise that I want to get rid of in the first place seems stupid?!

Am I wrong or wouldn't be the best approach:
- Have a case that allows for good cable management and airflow, no useless foam
- Case temperature regulated huge fans, one in the front and one in the back to suck in and push out air ONLY when the CPU and GPU are above 65°C or so?
- CPU with a low idle consumption and a huge cooler with 6-8 copper pipes
- GPU with a low idle consumption and a huge cooler and no blower design
- Get rid of all HDDs and replace with SSDs

Stuff that I am not interested in:
- Having the machine run below room temperature for no reason, I don't care if my CPU or GPU sits at idle 60°C.
- Overclocking
- Running games on ultra settings at 4K

Nice to have:
- Glass panel and some RGB?

Musts:
- The new Ryzen 3000 seem to have low TDP, lots of power for rendering and enough power for gaming
- A gfx card that runs at 0% fan speed in desktop usage and is capable of running VR games and 1440p in high details (RTX 2060+?)
- Low price (I guess I don't need to mention that I'm a cheap bastard and will go for the cheapest possible alternatives and object to watercooling primarily because it's just freaking expensive compared to some plastic fan bois)

Possible config:
- Ryzen 3700X (~350€?)
- Some B550?? board (~100€?)
- The 2700x cooler already has RGB but I don't know if it's silent in idle, so... maybe a CPU fan for ~50€? be quiet dark rock pro?
- 2x8GB DDR4-3200 RGB (~140€)
- Some simple case for one GPU, with some RGB and glass side (~80€)
- Some graphics card for 350€
- 1TB SSD (Intel 660p?) 120€
- I'll reuse my seasonic power supply and my 2 existing small SSDs

I guess my budget is ~ 1.200€ + some silent RGB fans (which ones?)


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 13:37    Post subject:
just keep in mind pcie4 will be actively cooled in most upcoming boards due to 11v max use case

and right now is a really bad timing to build a new rig

fans not spinning is risky, better to get just some noctua fans running at 750-900 rpm , unhearable

are u really going to risk using shitty fans just for rgb lol ? makes no sence Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 13:41    Post subject:
Not sure what xou can buy for 1.2 euro...
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 14:32    Post subject:
1. replace HDDs with SSDs

2. case with big fans:
a. 1 under pushing air upwards (with filter)
b. 1 infront pushing air inwards (with filter)
c. 1 above pulling air upwards
d. gpu will have a fan that is pushing air outwards towards the back

3. any nv series 900+ gpu will shutdown fans below ~60 degrees
a. 1070Ti is currently sitting at a perfect place perf/cost, better than 2060

4. big bore cpu cooler


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 14:43    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
just keep in mind pcie4 will be actively cooled in most upcoming boards due to 11v max use case

and right now is a really bad timing to build a new rig

fans not spinning is risky, better to get just some noctua fans running at 750-900 rpm , unhearable

are u really going to risk using shitty fans just for rgb lol ? makes no sence Smile

I didn't manually set them to be silent. They just don't get hot enough during desktop usage. When under load all fans spin as they should Smile But I also wear my headphones when I game and as long as I can't hear shit through them I don't care.

@leo: Xou can buy a lof of things with 1.2 euros. He is very frugal Very Happy
@streagle: What do I have to consider when I don't want the stupid case fans to spin during desktop usage?


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 15:47    Post subject:


fanless cooler, but gl transporting ur system after lol
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 16:33    Post subject:
RGB


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 16:37    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 17:03    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 17:13    Post subject:
Black A25 120mm fans So Much Win


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 17:30    Post subject:
I usually have DI.FM playing, playing VR or just using whatever PC game sound Im playing at the time. I actually sit right next to my rig when watching movies and do not even hear a thing since the movie is playing. Getting older will also fix this too.


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 17:41    Post subject:
my case is wide open and crap, the only fan i hear is from the stock intel cooler. (but i have no gfx card)

if i would install my noctua , i wouldnt hear a thing , the power supply fan perhaps under load
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 17:44    Post subject:
fractal case + bequiet fans.

what i got:
- fractal r5, there might be better options on the market now.
- dark rock pro 3 (there might be newer version available now too) with silent fan curve on a intel 6700k delidded + liquid metal
- 2 be quiet silentwings 3, also with silent curve (1 front + 1 back)
- gtx 970 which doesn't turn the fans on until it reaches 59 or 60°
- be quiet power supply

those are all fans i got in my case.
while gaming you can hear the graphicscard fan a little bit and the coil whine of course, if you got that too.
while idling or doing nothing except browsing, chatting and whatelse, you hear nothing from it.

idle temps: cpu 30-33°, gpu 48-52
load temps: cpu 59-60° (prime95), gpu 65-75° depends on the game

i don't understand that trend with 10000 fans in a case, not even a custom made waterloop. (except when you really want to overclock to the limits AND if you want to maintenance that kind of stuff)
don't even start with AIO coolers.

my roommate has a noctua and don't get me wrong, those are great coolers and yes they even cool a little bit better then a bequiet cooler but at the same time, they are much louder.
we both got the same case and both the top models from notcua and bequiet from that time, so i think i can make a valid point to this.
so if you look for a quiet pc, be quiet might be the better option. almost the same cooling like with a noctua cooler, but silent or almost silent.


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 19:14    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
I take that personally.

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PickupArtist wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqa7_yDb1YA

fanless cooler, but gl transporting ur system after lol

Yeah, saw that popping up in my feed I had a heavy copper zalman once and every time I went to a lan party I feared for my poor computer Laughing
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RGB

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paxsali wrote:
>> Some B550??

cheaping out again only to regreat it 2 years down the line?

Honestly, the only thing I dislike about my cheapo mainboard that I have right now is that I went for micro ATX instead of full fledged ATX. Everything else is great about it, not one single complaint Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 19:18    Post subject:
First of all get rid of that Seagate PSU. If they find out you have the prototype for the PSU they never released you'll be in a lot of trouble Sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2019 19:23    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
https://www.caseking.de/thermaltake-view-22-tg-tempered-glass-midi-tower-schwarz-gexa-270.html

This here looks good, has many fan mounting options and is cheap.

Yeah, that looks quite good. I see that it has already one fan pre mounted but as I said, I'd get rid of that to get some better fans... with RGB? (but noctua and be quiet! don't have rgb fans Embarassed )

I checked some fan reviews and except for the very cheap models, all fans by the bigger brands seem to perform equally good. The ones that are noisier provide more airflow and the ones that are more silent provide less airflow, pretty linear as far as I can see.

My mainboard had only one connector for the case fan, how do I attach all 4-5 case fans and manage their speeds? I don't want them to run 24/7 Mad

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First of all get rid of that Seagate PSU. If they find out you have the prototype for the PSU they never released you'll be in a lot of trouble Sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th May 2019 04:15    Post subject:
Have minimal fans, just water Wink Quietness and performance Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th May 2019 16:33    Post subject: Re: Building a silent PC
PumpAction wrote:
Water cooling components might be great, but the radiator needs to be cooled by fans too, and guess what, those fuckers are loud! Or 4-6 fans in the case? They produce so much sound too!


This is where you're wrong.
I've been running custom watercooling for years, and fans never make any sound.
140mm fans running at idle speed (or stopped) will be super silent. No air sound. No fan motor sound. Nothing.
Combine it with a silent pump (which can also run at idle, which i do 99% of the time), and you wont hear the pump either.
All components will stay a few degrees above roomtemp (idle and load), which means you wont have a machine heating up your entire room too, and case fans will not really be necessary.


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th May 2019 16:56    Post subject:
Corsair magnetic levitation fans, especially 140mm ones are silent as hell, got my case full of them, moves ton of air at low RPM.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th May 2019 17:19    Post subject:
Get some really long cables, put PC in other room, really silent PC.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th May 2019 20:40    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
Kristian wrote:
140mm fans running at idle speed (or stopped) will be super silent. No air sound. No fan motor sound. Nothing.


You need to have some minimal amount of airflow in your case for the mobo and other components.

Putting huge radiators on your CPU and GPU alone that could cool them even passively when idle is not a big achievement, but it's also blind towards the rest of the components.

But generally speaking yes, buy BIG fans, with PWM, have some decent fan curves defined and viola! Silent system.

2 Rads. One in front or bottom side with fans blowing into case, and 1 rad on top with fans sucking out of case.

I also have a 200mm fan in front and 140 in rear giving me some air movement.


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PostPosted: Fri, 31st May 2019 00:35    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Get some really long cables, put PC in other room, really silent PC.

Brilliant, I just need a whole room instead of a case Very Happy


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