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i thought certain chemicals can seep into the silicon thus knackering the cpu, cant seem to find anything on it but im sure i read something about it a while ago.
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| Posted: Sun, 5th May 2019 20:53 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 5th May 2019 20:56 Post subject: |
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Any idea when it's coming? Is it a full platform launch or do we just wait for new am4 processors? b450 or new ?
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| Posted: Sun, 5th May 2019 20:58 Post subject: |
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New chipset and CPU. But the CPUs are backwards compatible to most AM4 mobos. The bios updates are already out for most manufacturers.
I'd wait for it now.
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| Posted: Sun, 5th May 2019 21:06 Post subject: |
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new chipset?
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| Posted: Sun, 5th May 2019 22:06 Post subject: |
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The next number in line. X570. Obviously they will bring new AM4 chipsets with their Zen 2 (Ryzen 3XXX) Generation CPUs.
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| Posted: Sun, 5th May 2019 22:31 Post subject: |
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So for best results with zen2 (ryzen 3xxx), I will also need a new mobo.
Also - what was that with very fast ssd, new pci express or something incoming ?
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| Posted: Mon, 6th May 2019 11:45 Post subject: |
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SSD speeds wont change with new chipsets, but there is a possibility for PCIe 4.0. We cant be sure about that. But I dont think it will make a noticeable difference.
The important thing is that these chipsets might support some CPU specific things that older chipsets wont. Like XFR3? or something like that.
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| Posted: Mon, 6th May 2019 17:26 Post subject: |
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at what point can ssds replace ram i wonder , just for normal use case surfing n watching video n old games, i wonder if a machine actually still needs memory if it was programmed to use just ssd as vurtual memory and the bios of motherboards programmed to not need memory plugged in.
near future one could say gfx cards and memory become entirely obselete for casual joe n office use,
heck, right now i think u could even replace every computer in an office with just a 60 usd phone hooked to a monitor and a usb keyboard n mouse if one really wanted to. it might not be as convenient, but the power and noise saving , so worth it.
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| Posted: Mon, 6th May 2019 21:37 Post subject: |
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I don't think SSD's will replace RAM any time soon. Non-volatile memory is much much slower than DRAM. We'll have to wait for Magnetoresistive random-access memory to arrive for consumers before we'll see Non-volatile RAM that is faster than the DDR4 of today.
| Quote: | Magnetoresistive RAM is one of the newest approaches to non-volatile memory and stores data in magnetic storage elements called magnetic tunnel junctions (MTJs). MRAM has an especially promising future as it seeks to encompass all the desirable features of the other popular types of memory (non-volatility, infinite endurance, high-speed reading/writing, low cost).
The first generation of MRAM, such as Everspin Technologies' 4 Mbit, utilized field-induced writing. The second generation is developed mainly through two approaches: Thermal-assisted switching (TAS) which is being developed by Crocus Technology, and Spin-transfer torque (STT) which Crocus, Hynix, IBM, and several other companies are developing. |
This is advanced level stuff which is promising a lot like infinite endurance, non-volatility, low cost, high-speed reading/writing. Near instant on/off without losing the content of the memory. They're still researching manufacturing techniques and stuff like that but in the end they should look pretty much like the RAM of today.
You could probably get a 128MB module with DDR4-compatible pins from Everspin Technologies later this year but I doubt it would just work on a current motherboard without modifications to hardware and OS.
If you find a card (NVMe, U.2, PCIe etc.) you'll most likely have to sell your kidneys and an arm for it. From what I can see they're aiming at the enterprise market at this point. We'll see if Samsung et al can sort it out for us consumers:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14056/samsung-ships-first-commercial-emram-product
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| Posted: Wed, 15th May 2019 13:00 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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| Posted: Wed, 15th May 2019 13:07 Post subject: |
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still nothing nearly practicale to exploit in real life scenarios
but since im looking for an upgrade at the end of the year ryzen 3xxx series might be coming in a good period of time for me
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| Posted: Wed, 15th May 2019 13:43 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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| Posted: Wed, 15th May 2019 15:16 Post subject: |
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I really hope that AMD doesn't fuck Ryzen 2 as Intel is getting boring as hell. (i9 9900K's price, heat issues etc...)
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| Posted: Wed, 15th May 2019 19:54 Post subject: |
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amds marketing department should be headchopped , they got amazing mobile cpus like 2500u and 3500u but u barely find any youtube review or nothing, its like they living in the stoneage of maerketing
also these m2 sticks are reaching 1000-2000 mb /sec read/writes, thats not to far off from older ram ?
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| Posted: Sun, 19th May 2019 12:54 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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| Posted: Sun, 19th May 2019 14:09 Post subject: |
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The nosmt mitigation isn't meant for 8th and 9th gen Intel CPU's.
I did a test by turning off the spectre + meltdown protection on my i5 8400 a while back and ran various benches on it and the difference was barely noticeable.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th May 2019 12:12 Post subject: |
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I expect to buy a new PC when Zen2 becomes available
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| Posted: Sat, 25th May 2019 19:04 Post subject: |
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Disable hyperthreading 
Over-dramatizing the shit for clicks I guess.
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| Posted: Sat, 25th May 2019 19:12 Post subject: |
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still , super surprized to even see a modern game like farcry work better/same with it off. Like isnt intel actually following up with game and application devs on this shit. Ud think ud want to protect ur brands. Like the testing nvidia does for the gsync label
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| Posted: Sat, 25th May 2019 21:27 Post subject: |
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What a bunch of crap. Don't disable hyperthreading. Delete shit optimized games. 
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| Posted: Sat, 25th May 2019 22:13 Post subject: |
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delete intel soon ,gogo amd, fingers crossed haha
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| Posted: Sat, 25th May 2019 22:20 Post subject: |
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Year of the AMD coming on the same year as desktop Linux
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| Posted: Sun, 26th May 2019 16:36 Post subject: |
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Again, no point worrying about disabling hyperthreading if you've got an 8th or 9th gen Intel CPU:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/mds.html
There may be conflicting reports from other sources but unless you feel particularly targeted by Zombieload, ignore it unless you've get earlier gen CPU's and even then it's importance is limited. 99% of the user on ze hump don't perform workloads on their home pc's that contain severely important secret information that the ruskies or chinamen are after.
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| Posted: Sun, 26th May 2019 18:42 Post subject: |
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Ah, somehow I didn't see news about this "Zombieload" vulnerability. Is this why we are speaking about Intel's doom and gloom again?
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