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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Feb 2019 11:52    Post subject:
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I almost don't fucking believe this. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Feb 2019 13:50    Post subject:
Played the beta andplayed division 1 before.

The state in whih division 1 is now is that isn't a bad game and has some content.
Division 2 just seems more of the same. For me personally it kinda looks a little bit worse, just marginally.

I had hoped that they would have given us the game from the division 1 e3 trailer where loot seemed more important it is probably much harder to implement since people wouldnt stay that engaged.

Not saying that div 2 is a bad game but almost the same as 1. Maybe they ve added some stuff you cant see in the beta but for now it's kinda a let down. They need a different addition like when they added the survival mode in div 1.


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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Feb 2019 14:13    Post subject:
I'm a big fan of The Division but something seems off in TD2.

I don't know if it's the movement animations, or graphics/lighting but I'm not enjoying it as much as I think I would.

I mean the gameplay itself is nice, but I'm just not having fun. Neutral

And what's even more strange, I played the Technical Alpha back in December and it was much more fun for some reason.

I guess we will see what the full game will look like.
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Feb 2019 16:21    Post subject:
yeah the whole winter setting in the first one is hard to beat... this just seems lame and not as good as the first one sadly Sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Feb 2019 18:06    Post subject:
It kind of grows on you. THe winter setting I don't care either way, gfx are fine. Good even. TD1 and 2 are very beautiful, full of little and large details.

I think TD2 is a lot more "alive" compared to TD1. I don't recall having so much stuff to do in the first one and especially not so early in, level wise.

So I think for me it's a buy at around 30$ or below.

Not at launch tho. I'll let it have its mandatory patch (or 3) and fixing of initial server issues and what not ^^

In the meanwhile, I'll be playing Anthem on my new 2080 (next week) hrhr.
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Feb 2019 23:21    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Interinactive wrote:
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I almost don't fucking believe this. Laughing

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lametta




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Feb 2019 00:21    Post subject:
Sele1209 wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Interinactive wrote:
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I almost don't fucking believe this. Laughing

What am i missing here?dont understand?

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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Feb 2019 12:13    Post subject:
The NPC's roam around and do stuff and you get into more dynamic encounters that way instead of scripted little areas of Division 1 as you came across some small group of enemies or "GIEF FOOD FOR CLOTHES!" beggars and all that.

World is a bit more organic in how collectibles and item rewards and such can be found and acquired and said item containers and other rewards are hidden all over the place now if you explore and look around.

Finished up the End Game stuff yesterday from the beta ... and hated it.
Grenadier/Archer/Sniper archetype classes weren't terrible but the enemies and the design and mentality here fucking sucked.

All enemies at end-game get different skills and abilities for which they have almost zero cooldown, there's also larger packs so trying to play it aggressively will get you killed.

Grenade throwing, drone usage (Medic drones can even revive previously fallen enemies.) suicide robots, assault tanks and heavy weapon users (Miniguns at that!) all stand in your way and then tech squads, snipers and more.

Thankfully the same AI limits from the first game allows for backpedaling and setting up choke points and picking them off and the signature skills (Thank fuck for the grenade launcher the demolitions guy had.) do get really useful but ammo is rare and drops very infrequently for this weapon.


End-game is mainly one mission which is the same one from the beta an main game but a few months later and this new threat from new enemies which this here is the Taurus PMC or something.

You do get a little leeway with exploring the surrounding though which you can see the now prior gangs all leveled up and actually posing a threat, even got lucky and found a world boss.



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A better balance for how these enemies work and especially the constant skill spam and it can be fun but that mission just sucked from how I experienced it at least ha ha.
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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Feb 2019 12:15    Post subject:
Oh and that bug from the first game is back again.

Enemy throws grenades and you get stunned or knocked down, then the grenade explodes and you take damage. The stun just comes from before that so it can be a real problem when it happens especially for how damaging attacks are at this end-game state so expect that to really screw you over at times.



EDIT: Also enemies play a reload animation at set intervals or are supposed to, they do not reload as such or have ammo limitations.

It is same as the first game fully possible to see enemies shooting for way longer than they should have ammo for (Minute or two consecutively at worst.) and that also goes for stuff like sawn-off or double barrel shotgun users firing three to four times though the vocal quips and such at least alerts the player as to when they're actually reloading.


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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Feb 2019 12:16    Post subject:
I never really looked into the Division but got a key for the 2nd one.

Is this a game were you can still play solo with AI or you absolutely need to play with people ?


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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Feb 2019 12:20    Post subject:
I soloed everything in the beta, end-game was the only really challenging part but other players probably provide a scaling to difficulty to compensate for the ability to properly flank and not be the one target everyone else is shooting at constantly.

EDIT: It is a loot driven shooter though so getting geared up and the leveling up and replacing gear is a constant factor and then for end-game getting into various builds more thoroughly and various roles and more high-end equipment including sets.
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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Feb 2019 12:23    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
I soloed everything in the beta, end-game was the only really challenging part but other players probably provide a scaling to difficulty to compensate for the ability to properly flank and not be the one target everyone else is shooting at constantly.

EDIT: It is a loot driven shooter though so getting geared up and the leveling up and replacing gear is a constant factor and then for end-game getting into various builds more thoroughly and various roles and more high-end equipment including sets.


Intersting... not that I won't play with people at one point but knowing you can solo it is also a good thing when friends are not available.

Thanks for the info JBeck!! Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Feb 2019 12:37    Post subject:
The first game could be a bit tougher alone especially with the crafting and grinding requirements but patches toned it down significantly and you can even find the set piece gears and the rarer orange tier items now without delving into the toughest group challenges or the DLC stuff.

It's almost toned down a bit too much since I went from having played the game last almost two years ago to making a new character and getting fully geared up in roughly a week and a few hours per session each day.
(Level 30, World Tier 5 and Gear Score of 280 to 300 I think it was when I decided I had done all I wanted to and might return for the shield challenges and unlocks somewhere down the line maybe. Used to take significantly longer to get geared up.)

The difficulty when doing it solo comes mainly from the gear you have and not knowing the missions initially so you don't quite know what you are up against, how tank the enemies will be and if there's some boss and what type that boss will be. Leveling up a bit, getting some new gear and taking another attempt at it usually works much better after one or two attempts and the role-playing game lite mechanics and loot driven gameplay means you will often swap stuff around especially early game as you replace older items and learn new skills and get more tactical options.


A very recurring gameplay element is also that champion or elite type enemies and bosses and a few other variants have armor, this time you can break specific pieces and then hit these to actually do damage without first "de-tanking" the enemy completely which is a good improvement but enemies using skills and other abilities can still provide a challenge though I do hope it's broken in the beta how some of them just spam these almost without cooldown.
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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Feb 2019 20:08    Post subject:
I played the first game, ive enjoyed the campaign quite a lot tbh, the pve post campaign and some grinding to tier 5 end game.

Im currently looking for either the game for around 25€ or a key.. cdkeys has it at 38€ wich is a bit too much tbh.

So if anyone has any of those infos, please, do tell Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Feb 2019 20:22    Post subject:
UPLAY store - Russia is cheap.

1999 rub ~ $30 USD. Use the UPLAY coupon for 20% off.
1599 rub ~ $24 USD.



Seems to have all languages too. Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Feb 2019 21:26    Post subject:
Do you need a VPN to play it as well? And is it region locked to Russia i.e. mp?
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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Feb 2019 23:41    Post subject:
IamAWESOME wrote:
UPLAY store - Russia is cheap.

1999 rub ~ $30 USD. Use the UPLAY coupon for 20% off.
1599 rub ~ $24 USD.



Seems to have all languages too. Smile

If you do buy it in Russian Uplay store plz report back if the game indeed has English language or not.
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2019 00:59    Post subject:
I bought it a month ago, it says "PC-DIG-THE DIVISION 2--STANDARD-WW" in order confirmation email, "WW" should mean world wide.
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2019 08:17    Post subject:
I am just surprised, that Polish is a supported language, but Portuguese isn't... or Hindu.
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2019 14:10    Post subject:
From what I've seen of this game (I never played The Division) it seems quite boring. A walking shooter that looks very linear. Perhaps I'm wrong.


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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2019 14:13    Post subject:
Friend of mine was pretty dissapointed after beta ... said Div1 is much better


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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2019 14:22    Post subject:
The snow setting is better for sure, but otherwise, the game is moooostly the same, with minor differences. I do notice that weapons seem less accurate so i can't just headshot everything as soon as i see it but the character movement is more responsive now. Liking the side content more too, city feels more alive, and there's a lot of variation in the activities.
Overall it's Division 1.5, but that's fine with me, needed new content anyway.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Feb 2019 00:53    Post subject:
Theyre so confident this will sell well so they added a free game when you preorder now.

Watchdogs 2, Far Cry Primal or Ghost Recon Wildlands.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Feb 2019 01:00    Post subject:
That buggy beta bit them in the ass it seems.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Feb 2019 01:33    Post subject:
Wondering if they add the free game to the russian store as well

*edit it seems so but the store isnt working correctly
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Feb 2019 11:16    Post subject:
I enjoyed the Beta, once it became more stable (they patched it). I enjoyed the game and it actually made me wanna buy it now. Not for 60€, but below 30€, why not.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Feb 2019 11:26    Post subject:
PowerGamer wrote:
IamAWESOME wrote:
UPLAY store - Russia is cheap.

1999 rub ~ $30 USD. Use the UPLAY coupon for 20% off.
1599 rub ~ $24 USD.

Seems to have all languages too. Smile

If you do buy it in Russian Uplay store plz report back if the game indeed has English language or not.


Will do. Smile

sunny4u wrote:
I bought it a month ago, it says "PC-DIG-THE DIVISION 2--STANDARD-WW" in order confirmation email, "WW" should mean world wide.


RU store? Does your copy show up in the library already?
Also, the usual VPN -> buy, yeah? Thanks!
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