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Il_Padrino




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2019 14:40    Post subject:
Hm, I feel it's the opposite and most prefer Odyssey over Origins, including myself and I really liked Origins. The only thing Origins has over Odyssey are the pyramids.

There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2019 16:10    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
Hm, I feel it's the opposite and most prefer Odyssey over Origins, including myself and I really liked Origins. The only thing Origins has over Odyssey are the pyramids.


Same here.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2019 16:29    Post subject:
Odyssey indeed is Origins on steroids (in terms of contents). The problem for me was that Origins already became quite the slog to finish and the idea of going through the same-ish experience for another *inserts humongous amount* of hours accompanied by Ubisoft's signature generic writing and arcade-y design simply wasn't worth it.

I'll just wait for the next "revamping", assuming that it won't turn the franchise into an online uplaym8 featuring sixth-dimensional couchassassins, that is Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2019 16:50    Post subject:
The most boring part about Origins was the "ingredient" grinding in order to improve items.

That thing here too?
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2019 16:57    Post subject:
Yeah, you require a lot of shit in order to upgrade. I never fully upgraded my ship, because I wasn't very fond of sea battles.
But you can either buy resources from smiths or by recycling your weapons & armour. You find a LOT of stuff, so as long as you don't strictly follow the main story, but go out of your way to explore a bit, it shouldn't be too big of a problem. I found that clearing the (smaller) islands is quite fun, as the amount of '?' are limited and you can set some limits Very Happy

There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2019 16:57    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
Do you get an additional ending/cutscene when reaching 100%?

You can only check completion status online so no idea how much I'm at Razz
I completed main storylines (including Atlantis) and killed all cult members. Took me around 75 hours (including exploring a lot, so I didn't feel any of the grind)
I thought the final cutscenes were a bit lackluster (especially after killing the cult leader)


Nope not really, you only get different endings depending on the choices you do through the mainstory. Like spare or kill some people.

All in all if you behave good and dont search the fight in those you should get the good ending, anything else gives the bad one.

You can see an additional ending (sort of) when you finish the Atlantis questline.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2019 17:07    Post subject:
I finished the main story of Odyssey and I am having fun doing the side quests and just exploring the world.

However, I tried Origins last week (perhaps my 5th try since the game was released?), and again got bored very soon, the world just feels dull, from what I saw so far the map seems to look the same everywhere....in Odyssey you have at least different landscapes which it makes it more intersting for me.

Not sure if I should continue with Origins or not (just met Cleopatra).
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2019 17:14    Post subject:
DaLexy wrote:


Nope not really, you only get different endings depending on the choices you do through the mainstory. Like spare or kill some people.

All in all if you behave good and dont search the fight in those you should get the good ending, anything else gives the bad one.

You can see an additional ending (sort of) when you finish the Atlantis questline.

In my game, the step-brother got killed, so with the family reunion in the end, I got all related epic gear except for the helmet. So I guess it's possible to save your step-brother somehow?
Meh, it was still a good ending in my book. Nobody seemed to miss him anyway Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2019 17:21    Post subject:
Yes you can save him, as your father will intervene when the fight is going to start.

Didnt know that you can still get a good ending even if he dies. But your father needs to be alive, if he dies you will always get the bad ending.

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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2019 17:22    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
I found that clearing the (smaller) islands is quite fun, as the amount of '?' are limited and you can set some limits Very Happy


Same here. The most entertaining was sailing to some far off island and discovering new landscapes etc. I may be wrong but I felt like even some of the side quests there were a bit more interesting.
The main story did not hook me up, so much so that when I get back on it I don't even recall some main choices made.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2019 17:36    Post subject:
DaLexy wrote:
Yes you can save him, as your father will intervene when the fight is going to start.

Didnt know that you can still get a good ending even if he dies. But your father needs to be alive, if he dies you will always get the bad ending.

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Yup, dad and brother were alive in my game. Kassandra made the remark that she perhaps could have saved the other brother if only she went to help him sooner. So there's either some time limit, which I doubt, or it's because of the order of certain quests.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2019 17:57    Post subject:
Or the wrong choice when you talk to him before the fight. Timelimit doesnt seem to be the case, never had something timelimited in the game iirc.

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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2019 11:54    Post subject:
Stentor is what he is, dad-Wolf was pretty alright though but a traditionalist so when boy-Lexios (Or girl-Kass.) football tackled and fouled and sent the old fart they had as a goalie flying off the mountain during baby football finale he had to be sent off the mountain too because traditions.

Though I suppose that does mean the appropriate solution is to Sparta err football kick the old man off the mountain too during the reunion and then send Stentor into the afterlife too.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2019 19:46    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Stentor is what he is, dad-Wolf was pretty alright though but a traditionalist so when boy-Lexios (Or girl-Kass.) football tackled and fouled and sent the old fart they had as a goalie flying off the mountain during baby football finale he had to be sent off the mountain too because traditions.

Though I suppose that does mean the appropriate solution is to Sparta err football kick the old man off the mountain too during the reunion and then send Stentor into the afterlife too.

Which is precisely what I did and why I sat alone with my dear old mum at the family table in the end. And I would have been all alone if I hadn't died during the fight against my brother the first time around and was able to chose a different conversation option, saving my mum Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2019 00:07    Post subject:
This liveservice is bullshit, i went through the game and thats it. There is too little to do and they should release that stuff all in once instead of dripfeeding. Cant be arsed to play the additional stuff.

The content is a joke in itself, we get new Costumes and weapon skins, again another Cyclops in just another enviroment (3rd Cyclops) and the increase of Merc tiers is also meh. There is no point to do that stuff in a game that is limited by what you can do. You play it once through the Story and thats it.

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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2019 07:35    Post subject:
Yeah, just wait for the two story DLCs to be released.

I guess that the idea with this approach is to keep the game in the media sphere for longer so that there's more chance people buy it.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2019 12:27    Post subject:
Was hoping level scaling could be disabled, seems odd that it's just a separate option for how the difficulty levels already handled scaling but perhaps it can be decoupled though a slider for how many levels enemies should be scaled up or down would be nicer and the ability to disable it or always match the player level although it does also impact rewards since a quest four levels lower than the player will give a similarly lower level item.
(But most of them are junk anyway once you get stuff for your specific playstyle.)

And yeah it's drip-feeding and I'm mainly just waiting for the rest of the season pass missions to see how these will be, fourth Lost Tale was also released yesterday as a mini-version on 7 Samurai giving about a hour or so of content through a few quests chained into a slightly larger event. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2019 17:55    Post subject:
Any overall thoughts for those who played both Odyssey and Origins? Which was best?

From what i've gathered (youtube) people seem to like Bayek way more + story seems a bit better in Origins?

Currently finishing Origins, really enjoying it even if it gets samey and it feels rather "bare bone", if you've played it for 2h then you know exactly what to expect for the rest of the game, pretty much, no real surprises. I guess this goes for a ton of games though.

And yes, i still like the combat very much, it's easy which makes it have a nice flow to it, i die all the time from those Elite bastards, so it's not super easy.

Edit: and shit, the fucking map, it's immense... i did not look at it very closely for a quite a while and when i started to really examine it I was extremely surprised to see that i had not even seen 50% of it. It feels waaay larger than Witcher 3 or Zelda BotW, but i dont think it is. I got the Season Pass cheap btw so i have the expansions which i think expands the map.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2019 18:04    Post subject:
Liked Origins better. Its a bit shorter, but its full of content and I loved the new combat system and the brad new direction they took. That doesnt mean Odyssey is bad, its just a to huge world filled with semi interesting quests. More grinding. Main story line is pretty good, but it had way to few WOW moments. If you want that play God of War instead Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2019 18:07    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
If you want that play God of War instead Very Happy


I did not care for that game at all, strangely enough. I only played it for a little over 2h and was extremely underwhelmed the entire time, i was mostly just annoyed.

This might be one of those games i played at a time when i just didn't feel at all for that type of game though, it has happened before. I quite love the theme itself. I did not care the least for the previous games either apart from the very cool lore and scale of things etc.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2019 18:21    Post subject:
Yeah, the first hours of the game is pretty slow, but after awhile it gets really good Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2019 18:31    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
Yeah, you require a lot of shit in order to upgrade. I never fully upgraded my ship, because I wasn't very fond of sea battles.
But you can either buy resources from smiths or by recycling your weapons & armour. You find a LOT of stuff, so as long as you don't strictly follow the main story, but go out of your way to explore a bit, it shouldn't be too big of a problem. I found that clearing the (smaller) islands is quite fun, as the amount of '?' are limited and you can set some limits Very Happy


I haven't played the game alot around 5 min. Can you skip those sea battles. I hate those.
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2019 13:22    Post subject:
Update 1.1.2
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1981040-Assassin-s-Creed-Odyssey-1-1-2-Patch-Notes

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SUMMARY

Added in-game support for Episode 2 Shadow Heritage and upcoming Lost Tales of Greece
Added Level Scaling Option
Added two Mercenary Tiers and benefits
Added Hephaistos’s Workshop
Added new Mastery Levels
Addressed an issue that prevented Home Sweet Home from completing
Myrrine will continue to travel to her destination in A Mother's Prayer and The Paros Blockade
Players can now interact with Roxana to accept Sparring with Roxana
Players missing their Odyssey arc in the Quest Log after talking to Herodotos during the Serpent's Lair will now be able to continue their journey
Addressed various issues with Engravings not increasing stats as intended
Addressed an issue where the camera couldn’t be moved in Photo Mode



Tons more in the URL itself.
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2019 12:49    Post subject:
And some info on Assassin's Creed 3's remaster.

https://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/comments/ag603i/assassins_creed_3_remastered_info/

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Assassin's Creed 3 Remastered Info
Haven't seen this posted yet

From a gameinformer article

'Most of the assets, like 3D models or textures, have been completely redesigned...'

In addition, the team has also addressed some of the in-game systems to bring them up to date, like improved menus and user interfaces.

Sounds pretty good! I can't wait for March to replay one of my favorite AC games

Edit: the rest of the info we know so far, shared by u/Chelf1

" According to an FAQ on the Ubisoft website, the remaster will boast higher resolution textures, new character models, a new Physically Based Rendering system for lighting, as well as denser crowds, environments and VFX. On top of all that, you'll be able to upscale the game to 4K and HDR. " From PC gamer



Not bad, doing more with it than I expected though some info was already available from earlier including that they were looking into changing some of the gameplay aspects as well so it's more than a quick re-release.

Also 1.1.3 is out but it primarily fixes a save game crash issue and silently also fixes the recurring nag screen for "BUY DLC HIDDEN BLADE PART 2!!!" or something like that which popped up constantly until it got quieted. Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2019 12:53    Post subject:
There is also a shitstorm about the ending of the second DLC episode. Apparently you are forced into a certain choice and cannot be a hardcore gay/lesbian/asexual.
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2019 12:56    Post subject:
Is it PBR, or they simply rerun their export scripts to export their original assets at 4x the size from before?
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2019 13:15    Post subject:
That's a good question, no info so far on if it's Anvil Next 2.0 or the earlier engine but i expect it to be similar to Rogue which was remastered earlier though less extensively (Temporal AA was added along with a new water shader graphically.) though only on consoles.

Meaning it's using the same engine but extensively updated but it's not going to be a full port and complete re-make on the latest and newest engine base due to the extensive amount of work that would entail essentially making a game entirely from scratch and redoing most of the assets since the content creation pipeline would be different and can't really be re-used as is from the current data.


Egh let's see Anvil up until Assassin's Creed 3 I think was when Anvil 2.0 or something got introduced as the first extensive overhaul and then smaller overhauls with Black Flag and Rogue but Anvil Next was introduced in Unity and also Syndicate plus some titles on the side like For Honor and Wildlands also ran with enhanced versions of this. Then Origins debuted the next version Anvil Next 2.0 or what it's really called and now Odyssey with some further tweaks. (Hella compute expensive volumetric clouds ha ha.)


And yes Hidden Blade Episode 2 and the debacle around there, made for a fun read but egh modern gamers are weird but I suppose that's not exactly new, well some of them at least.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/assassin%E2%80%99s-creed-odyssey%E2%80%99s-latest-dlc-forces-something-on-the-player-open-spoilers-inside.93567/

https://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/comments/agg30u/legacy_of_the_first_blade_episode_2_ending_and/
(Original thread got deleted.)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-assassins-creed-odyssey-director-says-we-missed-the-mark-with-controversial-dlc.93976/

Ubisoft made the characters and story and narrative framework, game gives players choices and some freedom but it's ultimately Ubisoft's work and they're telling the story and setting the canon and events even taking choices away from the player as needed.
("But thou must." -> https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ButThouMust )

But that led to well the above first thread and then the Reddit topic where it originated I think and spread to sites like Kotaku and others and then Ubi apologized somewhat and that wasn't good enough cue second thread and more back and forth arguing ha ha.



EDIT: I try to stay out of it mostly but sometimes the games do get changed as a result of these complaints. I suppose there's going to be complaints no matter what for certain actions and choices pushed to the player with little control over but maybe it could have been handled better but I'm no writer and don't really have a answer though the outcry is extreme and some of the opinions thrown around like Ubisoft being extreme right and such now well it's kinda stupid.
(And I suppose nothing new really, modern day and all it's new and strange things for old people like myself. <- 30 YO something. Razz Already fairly outdated ha ha!)


EDIT: Blargh.

The entire first page for image searches doesn't have to be random Youtube videos Google even if you own the thing.



So something like that material and lighting wise compared to say Unity.

Blargh #2




Sigh I should just do as I thought and replay the series one of these days, get my own comparison images instead because it would be easier. Razz


Crappy comparison but the way light bounces and reflects on stuff and what not and the different materials and how these are handled and yada yada bla bla.

It's different. There.


And the interiors and other parts of course which Unity really excelled in.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7467/15618632590_89512d132e_o.png

But then the world map materializes and interest dies entirely.
http://i.imgur.com/m0Airjy.png
(And that's not getting into the gameplay itself yet.)

One day, some day in the future perhaps.



EDIT: Of course it would have to start with the first game and then you have the THREE TRIALS(!!!) before the happy fun stab time can actually even begin where you play tag with archers, play with the local beggar population and well do things like dressing as a heavily armed pacifist monk and tail people. Lots of people.
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Feb 2019 15:40    Post subject:
Finally downloaded the yarr version. Graphics are cool and runs very well on my 1080ti, but facial animations are really bad. Animations overall are very lacking of polish. Don't remember them being so bad in Origins.
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