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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Aug 2018 21:08    Post subject:
Funniest thing of the show besides the leather jacket was that Ark survival evolved wants to implement ray tracing... gl with that
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Aug 2018 21:37    Post subject:
https://www.alza.sk/asus-dual-geforce-rtx-2080ti-o11gb-d5448287.htm

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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Aug 2018 22:01    Post subject:
rtx 2080 non ti costs 1000$ from inno3d here Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Aug 2018 22:04    Post subject:
Just prey for RTX to be bad at Bitcoins mining, or be ready for a +500€ price jump by the end of next month. Sad


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lametta




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Aug 2018 22:52    Post subject:
here you go a bit of contorversy maybe:

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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 06:56    Post subject:
Ah shit I'm not gonna do it. This year is gonna be new cpu ram and motherboard, I expect to get 2 years outta a premium vid card & my 1080Ti has a way to go yet. Too often these improvements are so marginal ya end up feeling rorted. I spent the local equiv of US $993 on my last card & TBH the day to day gaming improvement wasn't huge.
This latest upgrade is software dependent, in other words improvements will only happen if a game has implemented ray tracing & many shops will decide to hold off on the expense of that until they see what rtx uptake has happened.
Feels like just another 3d gaming mess.
When hardware is really expensive it has to offer an across the board improvement otherwise neither developers nor gamers want to take the chance on cursing themselves with a white elephant.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 10:09    Post subject:
NVIDIA is listing 21 Games with RTX Support

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During the Gamescom NVIDIA event yesterday, the presentation on the new RTX cards, of course, was raytracing supported games. One slide caught my interest, showing 21 titles that are going to support RTS.

For RTX to succeed, they need proper implementation. And it seems that NVIDIA has been working hard with many game developers to get the new technology supported. The slide shown shows 21 titles with Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Battlefield V having support at launch from what we heard.

Ark: Survival Evolved
Assetto Corsa Competizione
Atomic Heart (2019)
Battlefield V
Control
Dauntless
In Death
Enlisted
Final Fantasy XV
The Forge Arena
Fractured Lands
Hitman 2
Justice
JX3
Mechwarrior V: Mercenaries
Metro Exodus
PlayerUnknown’s BattleGrounds
Remnant from the Ashes (2019)
Serious Sam 4: Planet Badass
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
We Happy Few


sause: https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-is-listing-21-games-with-rtx-support.html


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trollpower




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 11:20    Post subject:
wtf still no benchmarks?! I believe this wont be so hot after all in non ray tracing scenarios...


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 11:23    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 13:01    Post subject:
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In fact, more of the titles below support Nvidia's AI-driven DLSS (Deep Learning Super Sampling) than real-time Ray Tracing, with 16 games supporting DLSS while 11 support Ray Traced elements.

Below is a list of all the games below that will support Real-Time Ray Tracing;

- Assetto Corsa Competizione
- Atomic Heart
- Battlefield V
- Control
- Enlisted
- Justice
- JX3
- MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries
- Metro Exodus
- ProjectDH
- Shadow of the Tomb Raider

Below is a list of games that will support Nvidia DLSS;

- Ark: Survival Evolved
- Atomic Heart
- Dauntless
- Final Fantasy XV
- Fractured Lands
- Hitman 2
- Islands of Nyne
- Justice
- JX3
- Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries
- Player Unknown's Battlegrounds
- Remnant: From the Ashes
- Serious Sam 4: PLanet Badass
- Shadow of the Tomb Raider
- The Forge Arena
- We Happy Few


Kind of poorly titled. Doesn't mean "just" Ray Tracing but either (ray tracing or DLSS) or both.


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 13:06    Post subject:
Interesting - some games appear in both lists.

So they're not mutually exclusive.


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 13:12    Post subject:
Is ray tracing really that special?
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 13:24    Post subject:
Ray tracing is a simulation of real world lighting. It's what is used in pre-rendered CG like movies (i.e. what is used by renderers in programs like Maya, 3DS Max, etc.). Typically a high-end machine might take several seconds to several minutes to render out a single frame at even a relatively low resolution like 1080. That's why production CG is done via distributed rendering, i.e. render farms. Hundreds of processors running in parallel.

Real-time ray tracing has been the holy grail of graphics for a long time. Game engines use a lot of trickery and faking to render their scenes in real time. There's a trade-off in fidelity and accuracy for this though, which is why ray tracing is desirable. Unfortunately though it's currently impossible to achieve high fidelity fully rendered ray tracing in real time (regardless of what bullshit nVidia says). What you are going to see with RTX is small, trivial stuff, and as Nodrim posted above you are going to pay a heavy performance price for it.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 13:32    Post subject:
GTX 980Ti was what, 550$? And this shit is 1200$?! Aka in Europe it's like almost 1500 euros. Yeah fuck you nVidia you greedy cunts.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 13:59    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 14:10    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080ti-unable-to-run-shadow-of-the-tomb-raider-with-60fps-at-1080p-with-rtx-on/


Not surprised, you saw it during the event. The moment RTX was put on, there were frame drops in their showcases.

Pricing seems to be seriously fucked up for the future. Thanks miners, you showed them the way in how desperate people were to spend money. Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 14:21    Post subject:
Not a chance I will be upgrading any time soon with those prices.
My MSI 980Ti gaming x is holding up nicely thanks. Would have been nice for the VR boost.

Never mind 1080p gaming is fine with me.


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 14:46    Post subject:
Morphineus wrote:
Nodrim wrote:
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080ti-unable-to-run-shadow-of-the-tomb-raider-with-60fps-at-1080p-with-rtx-on/


Not surprised, you saw it during the event. The moment RTX was put on, there were frame drops in their showcases.


Of course I saw that. I also saw how they fucked up with the visual quality of the games to make the ray tracing feel more wow. But articles like the one above are not for people like us. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 17:15    Post subject:
new Nvidia product - Expensive NvTrash! Only 999$
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 17:29    Post subject:
Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 8GB GAMING OC Turing Graphics Card

£768.98

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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2018 20:20    Post subject:
Put it in a Laptop with 8K... someday... Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 03:58    Post subject:
Stop moaning about the cost, seriously! Buy one or GTFO. Only BIG NVIDIA boys allowed Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 04:11    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
Stop moaning about the cost, seriously! Buy one or GTFO.


No.


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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 04:19    Post subject:
I don't give a fuck about derp-tracing, but the fact that its title starts with a '2', instead of a '1', surely makes it worth double the price? That alone is worth it, and brilliant engineering, which should be paid for Smile

I mean. Have you any idea as to the work needed in changing a '1' to a '2'??? It's not easy you know, and requires technology only available from Nvidia. We have come a long way, and have to admire and reward them as such.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 05:12    Post subject:
No one is forcing you to have faster frames, brother. Razz


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