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deelix
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@AnimalMother: Damn, your right again...
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Esel_Gesi
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Jan 2006 22:14 Post subject: |
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Animal, I couldnt have said it any better.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Jan 2006 22:23 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | Praetori wrote: |
And in the end, who cares. When you're dead, I'm sure the last thing you will think about was "oh gosh, I hope I left a mark on the world". |
When you're on your deathbed thats the only thing you'll be thinking about. You're terminally ill and no-one cares, you're completely alone. You'll wish you'd done things differently.
Your life should be as full of as many experiences as you can make it, not just one thing.
It's about actually living rather then existing, you may be content with coasting through an unremarkable life, with nothing and no-one to distinguish you. But I and many other people certainly are not.
LOL, relying on the billion to one chance that chaos theory may result in your life actually meaning something. Pathetic. |
Chaos theory is pretty solid. It's been proven numerous times, QED.
I didn't say I'll live my life like that. Let's try not to turn this into a debate, I'd just like to get rid of some misconceptions. Like any other person, I myself want a full life. I want a good wife, children and a fine education just like any other person. But more than many other people, I'm on the right track. I'm only 17, so what I say might not be in any way, shape or form reliable to you. But I do know already that, unless I will die soon, I'll have achieved more in my life than the average person. By talking about chaos theory, all I was trying to do was reassure the original poster of this thread that he should live his life however he wants it, without worrying if his life was meaningful enough.
The question that will all hit us one day, to some earlier than others, to most during their mid live crisis, is if our life has been meaningful. I just wanted to reassure people that, unless they have quite/almost literally been living under a rock for 40 years, your life has been meaningful. If you have a middle class job, a lovely partner and a kid you hold dear very much, you have achieved so much more than many, many people ever hoped to achieve. Success is of course relative. To one, such as yourself AnimalMother, you seem to want lasting success over the ages. For people to remember you by when you have been long gone. This may not sound like much coming from a 17 year old, but I thought about it like that for a while too. But now I realised that if you set a personal life's goal and achieve it (for me, as you may have realised, it's having a good wife and kids) my life has not been a failure. To you, it may be saving people's lives or discovering a new species or animal, or find a way to clone human organs and name it after yourself. (I assumed this because a while ago you were talking about being a biologist, excuse me if I may wrong).
In the end, I'd like to summarise this by saying time you enjoy wasting, is not wasted time at all.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Jan 2006 22:59 Post subject: |
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I'm realistic, I don't expect to be remembered through the ages, but I know that I do want to leave something on this earth other them my rotting corpse. Be that loving children, people with memories, or some sort of achievement. I'm not content with just existing.
When you're on your deathbed, all you have left are your memories, and imagine if there was nothing remarkable or original that you've done. Nothing to distinguish one memory from another. Just a grey monotone of existance, where rountine and transitory pleasure are all that you have. In my opinion that would be horrific.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 05:47 Post subject: |
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Well, you don't know what I'll be thinking on my deathbed or if I'll even have a deathbed. You are simply doing many others do: take your own values and beliefs and apply them to the lives of others. That's what compels people to say "get a life". It's a unsubstantiated act of judgement. Everybody is different. If I live this way, and I'm not hurting anyone, and you live your way and you are not hurting anyone, then what is the problem? Why do people feel the need to point out that you are doing something wrong?
I don't live in complete isolation. I don't have kids or a wife but I pay taxes, I do my job, I vote, I do tons of bullshit. People are much more involved than they realize. And even I am falling into the trap by defending my own life.
This is why I think the meaning behind "get a life" is "get a life like mine". I mean, I think the fact that you want to make a big impact, whatever that means, is great. Do your thing. But it's not any better or worse than me.
There are billions of people on this planet. Do you realize how few of them are remembered beyond their circle of friends families and coworkers? Not many. It's not impossible, but good luck with that.
I'm just saying all this because I hear "get a life" tossed around a lot but I never anyone get called out on what it actually means. It doesn't really mean anything, especially when you take into account that most of us are really not that different.
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 11:07 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | Praetori wrote: |
And in the end, who cares. When you're dead, I'm sure the last thing you will think about was "oh gosh, I hope I left a mark on the world". |
When you're on your deathbed thats the only thing you'll be thinking about. You're terminally ill and no-one cares, you're completely alone. You'll wish you'd done things differently.
Your life should be as full of as many experiences as you can make it, not just one thing.
It's about actually living rather then existing, you may be content with coasting through an unremarkable life, with nothing and no-one to distinguish you. But I and many other people certainly are not.
LOL, relying on the billion to one chance that chaos theory may result in your life actually meaning something. Pathetic. |
Your life should be as you expect it to be, when you are on your deathbed and you are happy with your life then thats what counts. Who cares about how many experiences you have, even if you have done only one single thing throughout your life, if its the most satisfying for you then thats what matters.
Existing or living, its all in your head, dont let others or the mob of society determine how you live your life because they think their way of life is the most satisfying.
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deelix
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 11:12 Post subject: |
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So all that matters is to have someone who love you trough all your life.
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Grees
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 11:22 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | | So all that matters is to have someone who love you trough all your life. |
Not even that matters, if someone is happy with his life, gets up everyday feeling great for himself, then who can possibly say his life should be this or that.
We all lead different lifes, and we all die someday, in the end it doesnt matter because most of humanity leave nothing significant behind, doesnt say you should give up reaching for something that would make a different in this world, but there's no shame for living your life the way you see is right.
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 18:05 Post subject: |
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Of course thats what it means when someone says 'get a life'. They can't understand how someone could be satisfied with such a monotonous existance. What did you think? They had some sort of special insight into life.
No, like everything that comes out of someones mouth it's tainted by bias and personal opinion. Is that what you made this thread for? To try to find out if there was a unanimous meaning to that phrase. Because thats idiotic. I think you came here to try and get some absolution for such a shitty existance.
I couldn't give a shit how you live your life, die in the tediousness of an unchanged routine for all I care, the world has it's foundation built on people like you. Without you, others couldn't achieve such remarkable experiences or memories as they do. But people close to you obviously do care, so thats why they say it.
Almost everybody, when they're dying, thinks the same thing. "What did I do that means something, where are the memories that distinguish themselves". It's human nature.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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Grees
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 20:38 Post subject: |
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Like I said, its all your head, pointless discussion of how people should think when they die, its hardly human nature, just plain simple social conditioning if you asked me.
Obviously any halfwit can make out from my post that there are no unanimous meaning to the phrase, respect for other people's life is what its all about, telling people that they should live their lives this or that way is just a waste of time since who are you to tell which is the right way, or do you just blindly copy the opinion of the masses and let your life be determinded by how others see you should be.
Everyone comes down the road of death, in the end you die and thats it, those few moments before death are going to be just as insignificant as any other moments when you passed away, living your entire life the right way according to you, chase your dreams whether its big or small is what its all about, dont stupified yourself desperately trying to live your life like the rest told you so just for those moments before the end.
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 22:29 Post subject: |
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You don't get it, it's ok. I guess you're a kid?
I'm not telling anyone how to live their life, and if you actually comprehended my post you'd realise that i'm explaining what people mean when they say 'get a life'. By 'deathbed' I mean towards the end of your life, not a few seconds before, I thought that would be obvious. It's an example, not the rule. I pity people like you who consider life insignificant. It must be horrible to have no direction, to just exist.
Also, I was addressing Gliss, not you. So kindly piss off with your childish bullshit please.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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Grees
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 22:57 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | You don't get it, it's ok. I guess you're a kid?
I'm not telling anyone how to live their life, and if you actually comprehended my post you'd realise that i'm explaining what people mean when they say 'get a life'. By 'deathbed' I mean towards the end of your life, not a few seconds before, I thought that would be obvious. It's an example, not the rule. I pity people like you who consider life insignificant. It must be horrible to have no direction, to just exist.
Also, I was addressing Grees, not you. So kindly piss off with your childish bullshit please. |
Seriously, lay off the crack if you cant handle it man. You're starting to mix different people up even when there is only one.
Few seconds before, moments before, towards the end of your life, its all the same.
I serious wonder where you get the part that I said life is insignificant. Life is what you make of it yourself, and no one can possibly tell you to live their way because it has "directions".
Telling people their life is shitty and meaningless automatically puts you in the asshole category of people who consider their life to be better then the others and cant stand the fact that others might think differently about how to lead their lifes.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2006 00:04 Post subject: |
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i knew it would turn into a debate like this, in the end everyone knows "get a life"
means get away form the computer, go outside and be more social.
its a matter of opinion now what people consider as life and what not, so its kinda
pointless to discuss it, we already had this sort of "meaning of life" discussion countless times.
it never comes to a point, we all have different lives and hence different opinions.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2006 02:42 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | Of course thats what it means when someone says 'get a life'. They can't understand how someone could be satisfied with such a monotonous existance. What did you think? They had some sort of special insight into life.
No, like everything that comes out of someones mouth it's tainted by bias and personal opinion. Is that what you made this thread for? To try to find out if there was a unanimous meaning to that phrase. Because thats idiotic. I think you came here to try and get some absolution for such a shitty existance.
I couldn't give a shit how you live your life, die in the tediousness of an unchanged routine for all I care, the world has it's foundation built on people like you. Without you, others couldn't achieve such remarkable experiences or memories as they do. But people close to you obviously do care, so thats why they say it.
Almost everybody, when they're dying, thinks the same thing. "What did I do that means something, where are the memories that distinguish themselves". It's human nature. |
I did not come hear seeking absolution. I can't imagine why one would. I just came here for discussion on the phrase. That's what everyone here has provided and I'm thankful.
What I'm sort of questioning is why can't I be satisfied with something without it having to be "shitty"?
If someone cared, they wouldn't just say "get a life", at least I wouldn't. I'd start by saying "oh, what are you interested in?" "I heard about this, have you tried it?" "Get a life"... It's not constructive.
So it appears to me to be a vacuous statement meant to express contempt.
I'm not saying you don't have the right to, and it's not a valid opionion. But let's not hide what the phrase really means.
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