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prudislav
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Jun 2018 22:43    Post subject:
ok this is new one , never saw errror like that ... can you post screen of that error?
+ maybe give me more detais
+ check RMB click on start , run and put "shell:AppsFolder" there and check if the folder includes forza


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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Jun 2018 23:38    Post subject:
I think when the game is installed it makes a verifying key for that pc?


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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Jun 2018 23:45    Post subject:
It's vroom vroom time men.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 00:55    Post subject:
Is this game like GTA and Tokyo Racer where you have a shitty car and you grind to upgrade parts and save money to buy new cars WHICH IS FUCKING AWESOME

Or is this game like too many others where you get a car for like 3 races and then are handed a brand new car as an award to use in the next event?
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 01:08    Post subject:
you can use every car you want in almost all events, the "main" story events are scripted and you have to use the car the game wants and some events are restricted to specific classes. and its not a great idea to use a lambo in an offroad event for example, but technically you could do that
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 01:32    Post subject:
Nope ran shell:AppsFolder no forza folder


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 03:14    Post subject:
Decent game, enjoy it more than the crew crap. Runs pretty great, so far the only real annoyances are the cringy cutscenes and shallow personalities of the NPC's.

Guess I'll give Motorsport a download.

Ah and a side note... It asked me to designate the save folder. How I wish every game did that. Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 04:49    Post subject:
Recently Microsoft started pushing a new security update (KB4284835) for Windows 10, which basically stops most CODEX Windows Store cracks from working. This update is the hidden one and not visible in Windows Update Control Panel. You should uninstall it manually.

Run command line window as admin and type:
wusa /uninstall /kb:4284835

Wait until it completes and reboot.

Fuck you, Microsoft.

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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 08:04    Post subject:
While I'm not sure it's even possible I'd say that they haven't managed to decouple the UWP-component of these Win10 exclusive titles.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 08:05    Post subject:
That's the monthly cumulative update, not strictly a security fix.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4284835

Plus a ton of unlisted tweaks and changes, a lot of Windows files and components were updated in this months cumulative.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 08:13    Post subject:
Suddenly I get this crap when I try to install FH3 (first time I tried installing it there was nothing on the drive):



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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 08:17    Post subject:
this sounds like Antivirus soft trying to rape the extractor

zellar wrote:
Nope ran shell:AppsFolder no forza folder

can you do sceenshot pof your eror?


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 08:33    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
That's the monthly cumulative update, not strictly a security fix.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4284835

Plus a ton of unlisted tweaks and changes, a lot of Windows files and components were updated in this months cumulative.


Just posted it in case it helps someone out, as i found it on rin, thought it was post worthy.

Just a funny coincidence they fixed the SSB Flaw, and that broke the game for some.

I can't even install the update on a fresh install of 1803, so meh.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 08:36    Post subject:
Disabled A/V and now it's stuck doing this forever it seems:



Getting Fitgirl repack in case MS is behind this crap (doubt they're particularly aware of fitgirls repacks).


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 09:45    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:
difm wrote:
@freiwald welcome to the club of not playing this game Smile

whats wrong for you? same error on start up/intro like for me?



My game crashes to desktop after first loading screen.
I have also tried everything suggested by others and support and still nothing.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 09:52    Post subject:
difm wrote:
freiwald wrote:
difm wrote:
@freiwald welcome to the club of not playing this game Smile

whats wrong for you? same error on start up/intro like for me?



My game crashes to desktop after first loading screen.
I have also tried everything suggested by others and support and still nothing.

im sorry for you but at the same time kinda happy that im not the only one with this problem.
done everything too. also just uninstalled the update which was mentioned on the last page (different kb number for me since im on ltsb) and went through every steps again while being completly offline. nothing. that is it. i will try to find someone with a legit copy now so i can check if the game will run fine so i know for sure it's codexs fault.
i mean it's fine that they release something like this but so many people got problems and if it works with the legit copy and not with the cracked one, it's the cracks fault so why doesn't it get nuked? shitrow had better cracks. i know it's uwp and all but im so mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad

/edit like i said in here already it's the same with gow 4 and no one with forza 3. for now i can only find someone with a legit gow 4 copy. so i will try this now. downloading the legit copy of gow 4 right now and will report back in a few hours when this awesome 130gb download is finished. FML
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 10:15    Post subject:
i am 99% sure that all the problems are on faault of something on windows side and not error of the crack


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 10:19    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
i am 99% sure that all the problems are on faault of something on windows side and not error of the crack

we will see if the legit copy of gow 4 will run in a few hours. if it does, and the cracked one not, then there is something wrong with the crack for certain systems.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 10:22    Post subject:
let us now ... maybe it will download some redist that will make it work on LGBT systems ... also mixing legit and cracked UWP titles will probably make it even more of a mess


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 10:25    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
let us now ... maybe it will download some redist that will make it work on LGBT systems ... also mixing legit and cracked UWP titles will probably make it even more of a mess

well it's not only on LTSB systems. im not the only one with those problems and most people who got those problems got a normal and up to date windows version.
of course i uninstalled the cracked version of gow 4 first, before i started the download of the legit version. so i don't think it will make any mess.
im pretty sure it will work just fine. i will let you know but the download will take some time even with 100 mbits.

the cracked versions of zootycoon and age of empires work without any problems afterall. will try the newest cracked game "recore" later today.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 10:43    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:
of course i uninstalled the cracked version of gow 4 first, before i started the download of the legit version. so i don't think it will make any mess.

think is with UWP the starndard uninstall doesnt always help ... these apps also register/unregister (ouside of usual uninstall) in Appx-storage and that can be problematic in never before seen kind of ways (maybe you should later to unregister and run through my scripts i will tonight post on rin)

Its kinda hard to help as i had no problem whastsoever ... and the inifnite loading seems like the issue is somewhere on the side of xbox /xbox identity app aka when the crack should ask for save location.

From what i saw the people that had issues always had either "super weird AV programs installed" or "modified Windows installations" which are likely to cause random errors

freiwald wrote:
the cracked versions of zootycoon and age of empires work without any problems afterall. will try the newest cracked game "recore" later today.

well the crack is pretty much the same so if those work , the newer ones should works aswell

Imo its somewhere on the redists or somewhere on windows settings side (devmode, admin, that hyper-V should be all set up the right way, and probably some others )

you know fuck OS level DRM

zellar wrote:
Nope ran shell:AppsFolder no forza folder

that means its not registered on Appx storage and cant be run ... try launching the installapp.exe through commandline and see if it throws some errors


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 10:52    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
freiwald wrote:
of course i uninstalled the cracked version of gow 4 first, before i started the download of the legit version. so i don't think it will make any mess.

think is with UWP the starndard uninstall doesnt always help ... these apps also register/unregister (ouside of usual uninstall) in Appx-storage and that can be problematic in never before seen kind of ways (maybe you should later to unregister and run through my scripts i will tonight post on rin)

Its kinda hard to help as i had no problem whastsoever ... and the inifnite loading seems like the issue is somewhere on the side of xbox /xbox identity app aka when the crack should ask for save location.

From what i saw thepeople that had issues always had either "super weird AV programs installed" or "modified Windows installations" which are likely to cause random errors

i did unregister it with powershell! Smile still thanks for giving me the tipp, otherwise yes it could make problems.
as i can see on the other cracked games which are working here, it always asks for the savegame folder after the game has loaded up and not while the intros are running so my guess it's related to something else then xbox/xbox identify app.
also those 2 apps work fine on the forza 3 demo and if they are needed for the cracked versions of AOE and zoo tycoon, also there. but if im right you shouldn't even need those apps for cracked UWP games.

still again, thanks for your help and anyone else in here. maybe we can track the issue down in the next days or weeks. but im not very optimistic about it, otherwise people on cs rin would have done this already for like GOW already, since some people got the problem for this game too.

"only" 100gb left for the legit gow 4 version Very Happy it's only a matter of a few hours until i can give you the info if it's working or not. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 10:57    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:
but if im right you shouldn't even need those apps for cracked UWP games.

its OS level DRM so they probably still have to be in the system anyway and same goes for UWP specific rediscs that need separate UWP version of them (like visalc++ and stuff like that)
you know UWP is fucking mess by itself and hope we can track the issue down (maybe check in services.msc iof any of the store/xbox related services are disabled)

Funny thing is that i can run cracked FH3 without issuess and can't play FH3 demo because insanely frequent crashes of Xbox app Very Happy

as far as GoW4 goes my all issues were solved by blocking out and inboud connections in WinFW Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 11:04    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
freiwald wrote:
but if im right you shouldn't even need those apps for cracked UWP games.

its OS level DRM so they probably still ahve to be in the system and same goes for UWP specific rediscs that need separate UWP version of them (like visalc++ and stuff like that)
you know UWP is fucking mess by itself and hope we can track the issue down

Funny thing is that i can run cracked FH3 without issuess and couldnt play FH3 demo because insanely frequent crashes of Xbox app Very Happy
as far as GoW4 goes my all issues were solved by blocking out and inboud connections in WinFW Smile

yes but all this redist stuff should be installed correctly as far as i can see, i can't find any package which isn't installed on my system. Sad
you are right Very Happy fuck UWP!!

but don't you have a "normal" windows edition? shouldn't the xbox app work for you without problems when it even does on my ltsb version, which isn't meant to run it normaly?
yes i thought maybe my windows firewall isn't working properly for what ever reason, that is why i did everything i tried yesterday again, but this time without a internet connection, just to be sure. didn't helped, so i still think it's something else.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 11:14    Post subject:
well i have Win10EDU version (which is basically Ultimate edition under different name) ... but same as UWP skype ... the xbox apop is just a mess

its definitelly gonna be somethiong small, something stupid (like one random switrch somewhere in the settings like that hyper-V stuff or it requires some of the "spying shit that people remove and LGBT Win doesnt have")
... but to find what it is :-/


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 11:23    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
well i have Win10EDU version (which is basically Ultimate edition under different name) ... but same as UWP skype ... the xbox apop is just a mess

its definitelly gonna be somethiong small, something stupid (like one random switrch somewhere in the settings like that hyper-V stuff or it requires some of the "spying shit that people remove and LGBT Win doesnt have")
... but to find what it is :-/

just to be sure, could you give me a picture of your installed apps if you don't mind? of course only if there isn't something which i shouldn't see or so.
powershell open as admin > Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers | Select Name, PackageFullName

it's ok if not i just want to see if something is missing for me, even tho im sure i double checked everything vclibs, net framework and so on
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 11:50    Post subject:
I appreciate your determination, guys. Cool Face
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 13:53    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
Suddenly I get this crap when I try to install FH3 (first time I tried installing it there was nothing on the drive):



I'm getting this as well... Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jun 2018 13:57    Post subject:
pk1209 wrote:
Frant wrote:
Suddenly I get this crap when I try to install FH3 (first time I tried installing it there was nothing on the drive):



I'm getting this as well... Any ideas?

probably because of the new update, atleast i think so. make sure to disable auto updates for windows otherwise you will have it installed again Very Happy

MadK9 wrote:
Recently Microsoft started pushing a new security update (KB4284835) for Windows 10, which basically stops most CODEX Windows Store cracks from working. This update is the hidden one and not visible in Windows Update Control Panel. You should uninstall it manually.

Run command line window as admin and type:
wusa /uninstall /kb:4284835

Wait until it completes and reboot.

Fuck you, Microsoft.

from rin.


also @prudislav guess what xD the legit version works just fine. so im pretty sure now that it's somehow the cracks fault or that it doesn't install the license correctly for both gow4 AND forza 3. now i only need to find the reason for that. oh boy. i think it checks at startup for the license and then fails because of this. this could also be the reason that for some legit users, who get the same crash to desktop error at startup, there is a fix were they download any app from the store so the license from other apps work again.
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How i got it to work: update windows, disable antivirus. No issues till now.
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