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Nodrim
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StEFaN7
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but how can sie germans express themselves without the swastika ? its what im interested about
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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shadak
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| Posted: Mon, 28th May 2018 22:02 Post subject: |
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We need Jordan Peterson on these motherfuckers.
I actually do mind there are female soldiers in the game. Its ruining immersion.
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bronson
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| Posted: Mon, 28th May 2018 23:29 Post subject: |
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| shadak wrote: | | We need Jordan Peterson on these motherfuckers. |
Arguing on the internet about games made for teens is ruining your value as a man. You need to reshape your life, get it together, start acting like an adult. Before you start cleaning the Battlefield franchise, you need to start by cleaning your room. How can you fix the entire gaming industry when you can't even fix yourself?
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Mon, 28th May 2018 23:34 Post subject: |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 00:20 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | on the right side of history |
Maximum cringe  ... wait, wrong franchise!
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 01:12 Post subject: |
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Off in a tangent here, a couple of girl gamers I have met have real skill, I mean on a pro level. A large majority are young bitches that show off their titties and wrap equallly young (and not so young) boys around their fingers and get them to buy them free shit and freebies etc etc... they are not so much interested in gaming as exploiting their new found power they have over certain males. The other large demographic do actually game and have some measure of self respect as to not mix gaming with the discovery that the feminine guile has a certain power over desperate needy boys. They usually have red hair, wear glasses, and probably interested in anime and cosplay also.
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 01:14 Post subject: |
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Fake gamer girls get attention by showing off their body on stream.
Fake gamer boys get attention by screaming loudly on stream.
Real gamer men and women are too busy playing Roblox to pay attention to those attention whores.
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 02:59 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 03:13 Post subject: |
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To chime in on this stupidity, I think they should start to balance out hair/eye colour, tall/short, thin/fat, it's not fair to continually marginalize these groups of people in all important videogames.
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 03:33 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | If the developers are going to say that it is the most immersive and authentic Battlefield game to date (as the developers apparently did during the reveal stream), I'd like to know how.
With around 80 million dead, how many were female in combat roles?
Will the ratio of women in game be the equivalent of a few hundred thousand (or million) to 1? |
Just pretend that it's that one in a million, use your imagination.
If a female soldiers breaks your immersion then re-spawning must blow your mind.
Edit:
I would say loot-boxes and such are much more of a concern that playing a female character in a shooter. |
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thudo
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 04:32 Post subject: |
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Wow the PC cancer continues.. 
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 04:39 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 09:29 Post subject: |
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I don't mind that you're being able to play as a woman in a multiplayer game that's not aiming for hardcore historical fidelity such as Battlefield for the sake of basic representativity at all, I find it normal because it's a multiplayer game, really.
It'd bother me more in a single-player campaign if it was done without taste or interest for a semblance of historic credibility - which is probably going to be the case.
But that excuse... Just like Nodrim wrote, why not just tell your daughter the truth ? The tweet makes it sound his daughter is too young to be playing such a game, perhaps she'll have the maturity to know about how WW2 actually went down by the time she can finally play that "masterpiece" ?
How can you have such fallacious logic and genuinely believe you're in the right, I'll never know.
Mr. Trinkles, I think a large majority save for the usual has no issue with women characters at all per se, but rather of the way things are being ( poorly ) done and justified.
I'm sure you'd prefer "We think that considering the evolution of the playerbase, offering the possibility to play as a female character is necessary in our opinion and more important than sheer historical fidelity, for which we are not totally aiming anyway" over "I wanna be on the right side of history".. Doesn't sound as good in terms of PR though.
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-KrusT-
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 09:49 Post subject: |
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Finally a game where I can play as a black female lesbian SS-trooper!
Warning: the opinion in this post may diverge from the actual vision of the poster.
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 09:49 Post subject: |
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Normally I would agree that a female is no place for a historically accurate game which previous battlefield games have been.
But nothing I saw about the Battlefield 5 trailer looks historically accurate.
They might as well put in an alien invasion.
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 13:42 Post subject: |
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Now, I don't know what hardware costs in Poland, I guess it's cheaper because everything is stolen from Germany and resold... |
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 14:39 Post subject: |
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| TheZor wrote: | | Mr. Trinkles, I think a large majority save for the usual has no issue with women characters at all per se, but rather of the way things are being ( poorly ) done and justified. |
It's ridiculous that this has to even be justified. Instead of people being happy about more customization options to your character people are making a big deal out of it.
If someone doesn't care that when you spawn into the game with a non-standard issue load-out of weapons and gear then what's the big deal with having a female character as an avatar in the game? Why does my allied soldier have the ability to pick a german made weapon before jumping into a game, where's the historical accuracy there?
Most reasons I've read so far have been total crap. The trailer was dogshit, it looked like it was made by an amateur. But holy shit are people complaining about the most unnecessary things (instead of game mechanics, that random bullet deviation has to go). It's like people have lost their god damn minds.
| Interinactive wrote: | | Mr.Tinkles wrote: | Just pretend that it's that one in a million, use your imagination.
If a female soldiers breaks your immersion then re-spawning must blow your mind.. |
Learn to read:
| Quote: | | I don't care either way |
It's not about me. It's about developers contradicting themselves then wondering why they're getting this reception. |
I was giving you tips on how to avoid headaches in games. |
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 14:47 Post subject: |
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Women certainly made their contribution to the war effort during ww2. Although from my understanding it was more behind the scene roles, whether it was on the homefront as factory workers at munitions plants or taking up the roles men traditionally had while they were away fighting on the frontlines. Logistics, perhaps a pilot, driver what have you which were vital roles. From what I have learned up till now at least is that a women fighting on the frontlines would be unusual as I had never been made aware of that fact, although I would assume plenty of women did pick up a gun and shoot it. Resistence members perhaps, there were bound to be more then a few who participated that way I would assume.
edit: i would like to state though, that a women being denied such roles that a man would have probably had very little to do with what they are and weren't capable off, but more to do with how and society perceived women and the roles they should play during that era.
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 15:21 Post subject: |
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| Mr.Tinkles wrote: | | TheZor wrote: | | Mr. Trinkles, I think a large majority save for the usual has no issue with women characters at all per se, but rather of the way things are being ( poorly ) done and justified. |
It's ridiculous that this has to even be justified. Instead of people being happy about more customization options to your character people are making a big deal out of it.
If someone doesn't care that when you spawn into the game with a non-standard issue load-out of weapons and gear then what's the big deal with having a female character as an avatar in the game? Why does my allied soldier have the ability to pick a german made weapon before jumping into a game, where's the historical accuracy there?
Most reasons I've read so far have been total crap. The trailer was dogshit, it looked like it was made by an amateur. But holy shit are people complaining about the most unnecessary things (instead of game mechanics, that random bullet deviation has to go). It's like people have lost their god damn minds. |
Whenever people start saying "but you shouldn't even discuss this", I start having conflicted feelings.  We should be able to comment the inclusion of women in a game which claims to be set in WW2 ( even though the trailer looked weird, that's what they say, claim and advertise so we have to be logical even though they aren't themselves ), and how poorly that has been done without being instantly branded as gamergate/right-wing/misogynist, etc.
Would there be any uproar if they bothered using historical references ( things like xyzg mentioned ), or straight-up admitted that their game had little to do with the actual WW2 ? A much quieter one, for sure. You can't just blame everyone of being intolerant, it can't just be them when the reaction's so massive.
I think you could safely make a scale of the different elements ( weapon loadouts, maps and so on ) according to their importance in terms of immersion for the average Joe. Even him would have trouble with Nazi female soldiers, but I doubt he'll care much that X tank wasn't used during that specific time-period.
I'm honestly pretty puzzled that you can get German weapons as allies and vice versa, it makes no sense at all and I'm not in favour of it either - maybe it was just an example you were using, sorry then ! It'd be as imbecile as giving you a red lightsaber as a Jedi.
The laughable justification by the DICE dev was too much to simply overlook and give him a pat on the head for being "nice", even though I sympathize with his intentions. Those matters hold a good deal of importance for a lot of people ( no matter how ridiculous it is, it's a friggin' videogame ), hence why it bothers me so much that it's being explained so poorly, so imprecisely - it only ends up backfiring.
PS: I know that this could be seen as nit-picking and we fundamentally agree, but some people do care 
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tonizito
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 16:10 Post subject: |
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| sip74 wrote: | My gawd AAA gaming has become a joke.
Gotta give EA some credit though. How many pissed off consumers will opt to pay $20 more just to get the male cover. i would say quite a few... |
Nah, I don't think so. The number of people boycotting this "because it has women" at all is likely a small minority.
It's just that journo sites nowadays need these outrage!1 stories to stay afloat and usually make this seem bigger than it really is.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 16:23 Post subject: |
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Would probably be easier if DICE just came out and admitted: "Ok fine, we don't actually care about history, we're just adding prosthetic arms, katanas and women so we can sell them as cosmetics".
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im sure she would be thrilled.
