(Buy Ryzen XOR Threadripper now) XOR (wait for Ryzen 2)
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2018 19:15    Post subject: (Buy Ryzen XOR Threadripper now) XOR (wait for Ryzen 2)
Ryzen PC:

https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/62fe182217ed1d6d6e72241d0554f518774462d8d6508fc056e

Threadripper PC:

https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/939b61221e4e9eabc857b73e156c5f1100b53b884481f59241a

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I wouldn't actually buy the EVGA 1080 Ti, I just included it for overview, because that shop hasn't got the card that I want.
I actually want the GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Xtreme Edition and it costs about 999€ in another shop.


I don't know what to do. Advice. Help. Discussion. Attention. I'd take anything!


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2018 19:34    Post subject:
In my case, when I click on a link it will attempt to override my current shopping cart, so for the second link I had to click yes to a non intrusive question above the load out to get the new one.

It shows 7 articles for both with € 2.120,88 for ryzen and € 2.866,45 for TR

Wouldn't ryzen 2/+ be closer to your current CPU for single threaded performance making the switch easier?
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2018 21:02    Post subject:
You don't really need any of this, do you?
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2018 21:17    Post subject:
Guy_Incognito wrote:
You don't really need any of this, do you?

What is a man?

The question should really be whether he needs his money more than this equipment and then which of the presented choices he should take? You know, just taken from the title of the thread Razz

I could make use of TR, the gpu and (at least the amount of) the ram. Not sure of the MB, because I simply dont know about that at all.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Jan 2018 01:12    Post subject:
I will be upgrading from I7-5930K to either Zen+ or TR+.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Jan 2018 01:24    Post subject:
Buy Intel and meltdown your wallet.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Jan 2018 08:53    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
Yeah, you're right. Actually I might as well wait another year, but COME ON... it just doesn't feel right not to upgrade since 2012. Sad


Well it's neither your nor my fault they haven't significantly upgraded their CPU architecture in 5 years (+ you practically matched the current console gen cycle). I mean, AMD did, but just to race Intel.

So unless you are actively losing money by lack of video encoding performance (i.e. you could do twice as much work in a day for twice as much money), I don't see any point.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Jan 2018 13:02    Post subject:
Get the 1950X build now, nothing can beat its monstrous performance in multitasking considering its price, its so good. You can always buy Zen 2 Threadripper to your X399 board when it arrives.

I can give you one tip tho, replace that memory, get Trident Z 3200mhz (samsung B-die), they work flawlessy in Quad Channel.

Absolutely love my TR setup, its fucking beast in video editing (Adobe Premiere CC 2018 supports all dem cores now) and gaming is not a problem at my resolution, everything runs flawlessy.

Ryzen also doesnt have any edge over TR in gaming, every single TR clocks as high as 1800X or better, since they are binned Ryzen chips.
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Yes, TR has Quad Channel, you need 4 sticks.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Jan 2018 16:43    Post subject:
Im to upgrade my motherboard/cpu/memory sometime after the summer (atm ive got a i7-5820 so I guess ive fallen behind abit).

Should I get a ryzen? (my current gfx card is an Evga Kingpin 1080ti)

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Edit: Btw, sorry for the hijack - but I thought since you already discussed ryzen so.. Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Jan 2018 16:56    Post subject:
Well tbh ive heard loads of people mention Ryzen so I thought that was the one to go for Razz tbh Im up for any improvement really. Hopefully not beyond €1000 though Razz any new cpus inc worth waiting for? (as I said, i wont buy until after summer)
Im ofc after a good improvement. Smile


Yeah I know...I really should have given you more to work with, but I just posted while I was taking a bath so Razz

Ta for reply btw
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Jan 2018 23:39    Post subject:
Can I ask why not Intel?
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Jan 2018 23:50    Post subject:
I wouldn't buy right now anything with the ongoing Spectre/Meltdown thing lurking around.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jan 2018 07:21    Post subject:
I am in the same situation;
I'm stuck with a 2012-build (i5 3570k, 16GB 1600, Radeon 7950 OC...)
The difference is that I don't have the money to buy new stuff. :/


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jan 2018 13:59    Post subject:
I was under the impression Intel already had 8-core CPUs, guess I was wrong. I'm really out of the loop Sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jan 2018 11:27    Post subject:
Yeah I meant 8-core CPUs for the normal consumer, not the rich bastard with a penis as an avatar Sad

Hopefully by the time some proper, boundary pushing PC games appear, there will be proper 8-core Intel CPUs (with proper, not overpriced chipsets). At this moment, I'd be upgrading just to brute force my way through shitty ports.
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jan 2018 12:15    Post subject:
Looked briefly at Ryzen but wasn't impressed with the performance. Ordered a i5 8600k + MB and RAM. At 4K it seems like graphics card is more important, at 1080p the 8600K outperforms the i7 in the tests i've seen, Ryzen has always been way low in the performance charts ive looked at. 8600K is quite cheap and will be easy to overclock to around 5GHz.

Edit: 8600K not 2600K Razz


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vurt wrote:
Looked briefly at Ryzen but wasn't impressed with the performance. Ordered a i5 2600K + MB and RAM. At 4K it seems like graphics card is more important, at 1080p the 2600K outperforms the i7 in the tests i've seen, Ryzen has always been way low in the performance charts ive looked at. 2600K is quite cheap and will be easy to overclock to around 5GHz.

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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jan 2018 12:27    Post subject:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-coffee-lake-core-i5-8600k-cpu,5264-6.html

and i mean 8600K.. used to have the 2600K i7, messed up the numbers Wink

But when you look at 4K gaming you can see that the CPU's are quite equal, so i guess it means GPU is more important when it comes to that resolution.. e.g GTA V here:

https://www.nordichardware.se/artikel/test-core-i7-8700k-i5-8600k-i3-8350k.html/15?/test-gtx1070-grand-theft-auto-v-dx11
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jan 2018 15:01    Post subject:
Not sure why you'd want something else for 4K gaming tbh.. doesnt seem to matter at all in the performance tests i've seen, an i7 performs equally, maybe with 1 FPS to its advantage.
Memory speed does seem to matter more in that case, i've seen as much as a 5 FPS difference (slowest compared to fastest DDR4).

The only time i would bother with something better is for professional use of photoshop or rendering and video software.

The i5 8600K is an awesome CPU for overclocking, and imo that's what to look for when going for a gaming CPU (and same with gfx card, one that has good cooling) IF you want best price/performance. My really old 2600k i7 @5GHz did well for many years and still holds up great.
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