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chiv
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im looking after a pc with an i7 cpu running on windows 7.
microsoft... dear, sweet, benevolent microsoft - in their consumer-friendly desire to push windows 10, have blocked security updates on windows 7 for newer cpus. will that pc be fucked?
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Jan 2018 00:46 Post subject: |
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https://security.googleblog.com/2018/01/todays-cpu-vulnerability-what-you-need.html?m=1
| Quote: | The Project Zero researcher, Jann Horn, demonstrated that malicious actors could take advantage of speculative execution to read system memory that should have been inaccessible. For example, an unauthorized party may read sensitive information in the system’s memory such as passwords, encryption keys, or sensitive information open in applications. Testing also showed that an attack running on one virtual machine was able to access the physical memory of the host machine, and through that, gain read-access to the memory of a different virtual machine on the same host.
These vulnerabilities affect many CPUs, including those from AMD, ARM, and Intel, as well as the devices and operating systems running them. |
| Quote: | A warning regarding explanations about processor internals in this blogpost: This blogpost contains a lot of speculation about hardware internals based on observed behavior, which might not necessarily correspond to what processors are actually doing.
We have some ideas on possible mitigations and provided some of those ideas to the processor vendors; however, we believe that the processor vendors are in a much better position than we are to design and evaluate mitigations, and we expect them to be the source of authoritative guidance. |
Yeah, the manufacturers are going to be totally honest with us 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Jan 2018 00:48 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | im looking after a pc with an i7 cpu running on windows 7.
microsoft... dear, sweet, benevolent microsoft - in their consumer-friendly desire to push windows 10, have blocked security updates on windows 7 for newer cpus. will that pc be fucked? |
Microsoft will issue an update next Tuesday for win7
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chiv
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Jan 2018 00:51 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | | chiv wrote: | im looking after a pc with an i7 cpu running on windows 7.
microsoft... dear, sweet, benevolent microsoft - in their consumer-friendly desire to push windows 10, have blocked security updates on windows 7 for newer cpus. will that pc be fucked? |
Microsoft will issue an update next Tuesday for win7 |
yes.. thats great for MY pc, running windows 7 with an older cpu
but as i said, microsoft blocked NEW cpus (including that i7) from receiving security updates on windows 7 in an effort to push people to installing windows 10, so not entirely sure how ill be able to patch that pc. |
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Jan 2018 01:11 Post subject: |
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@chiv
Your PC will get fucked up if you happen to get one of those exploits on that machine.
Then it will rape your machine till nothing is left anymore.
Enthoo Evolv ATX TG // Asus Prime x370 // Ryzen 1700 // Gainward GTX 1080 // 16GB DDR4-3200
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chiv
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Jan 2018 01:30 Post subject: |
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oh god no. NO.
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo
ill see if theres a working patch hax0r to get security updates on win7 for newer cpus... there used to be... microsoft probably patched it out because theyre dicks, though
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Jan 2018 01:38 Post subject: |
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So my 2500k is like P4 now?
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Nec
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Jan 2018 06:34 Post subject: |
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Chiv, look at wufuc for all your new CPU troubles.
Used it on a few machines so far. No issues.
https://github.com/zeffy/wufuc
Last edited by Nec on Thu, 4th Jan 2018 17:28; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Jan 2018 09:32 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Jan 2018 19:05 Post subject: |
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I'll be avoiding this like the plague. I'll take the risk.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Jan 2018 19:22 Post subject: |
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I'll wait for proper benchmarks, gaming benchmarks at that.
Anything else with lower performance I couldn't give fuck one about...
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Il_Padrino
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Jan 2018 22:21 Post subject: |
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Phew... 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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ixigia
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I imagine the delta for older CPUs will be a bit more noticeable, though the effect in games not being as impactful as originally feared is s something reassuring. Still, this entire ordeal sucks sockets' butts :')
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| Posted: Fri, 5th Jan 2018 01:08 Post subject: |
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they knew about this since june .....
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lgor007
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| Posted: Fri, 5th Jan 2018 12:04 Post subject: |
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So i just installed latest update for windows and tested with AC Origins and there is no big difference with FPS. I got 2 FPS more in average so no big hit or problems with this update. I have i7 4770k
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Mythril
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Stige
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jan 2018 13:33 Post subject: |
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@Mythril
| Quote: | | 6th generation Intel® Core™ processors |
1+1 = You are affected.
Like 90% of all Intel users.
Enthoo Evolv ATX TG // Asus Prime x370 // Ryzen 1700 // Gainward GTX 1080 // 16GB DDR4-3200
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Mythril
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jan 2018 13:39 Post subject: |
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Ahhh, gutted... Thought I was tbh. Thanks for clearing it up for me guys.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jan 2018 18:31 Post subject: |
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Looks like intel got AIDS.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jan 2018 18:55 Post subject: |
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Looks like Q6600 is unaffected  ?
It's not even the 1st generation Intel® Core™ processors
Correct ?
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jan 2018 19:55 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | Looks like intel got AIDS. |
They got AIDS the moment they started using toothpaste as thermalpaste.
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