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 Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 22:14 Post subject: Ultrawide thoughts. |
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So I'm thinking about selling my triple monitor setup for a ultrawide screen.
What are your thoughts about going in for an ultrawide monitor instead of triple monitor setup ?
Would I need another 16:9 27" Monitor to have that extra Monitor while gaming on the Ultrawide ?
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 22:19 Post subject: |
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People who have ultrawides love them but it's not the same as multiple monitor setup for sure, unless You use app that "splits the screen" (if that exists).
If You got one, You could just play games with locked aspect ratio in the middle if they did not supported uw resolutions. But then, seeing all black sides of the screen would probably reveal ips backlight corner glow(most visible on black background) and could be annoying.
And curved ultrawides are said to be prone to dead pixels a little bit more, so You would need to be sure if You can easily return it.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 22:34 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | People who have ultrawides love them but it's not the same as multiple monitor setup for sure, unless You use app that "splits the screen" (if that exists).
If You got one, You could just play games with locked aspect ratio in the middle if they did not supported uw resolutions. But then, seeing all black sides of the screen would probably reveal ips backlight corner glow(most visible on black background) and could be annoying.
And curved ultrawides are said to be prone to dead pixels a little bit more, so You would need to be sure if You can easily return it. |
Thanks yeah these are some very good points. Are there lots of games that do not support 21:9 aspect ratio ? I'm currently only playing newer games, 2016 - 2017.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 22:37 Post subject: |
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Last edited by paxsali on Thu, 4th Jul 2024 23:30; edited 2 times in total
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 22:38 Post subject: |
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here:
http://www.wsgf.org/mgl
You can sort UWS supporting games by their list
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 22:41 Post subject: |
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I love my UW monitor. Stuff is just so good.
Support for resolution is sometimes hit and miss but pretty good but shitty too. Don't expect many asian developers giving a fuck but then again western devs don't care either.
There is good website called wsgf for modified .exe files to fix resolution.
If you are gonna buy one please don't get 1080p UW. Shit is stretched and you can literary see pixels everywhere. And don't listen to people who will try to tell you otherwise.
You either buy 1440p or nothing at a..
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 23:02 Post subject: |
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Sweet thanks a million guys. Im thinking about getting this one:
https://pcmonitors.info/benq/benq-ex3501r-100hz-3440x1440-va-with-hdr-support/
So it's 3440x1440 and 100Hz. I got 1080 Ti so it should be OK.
But do you guys think one 21:9 monitor is enough ? I'm used to having some shit/movies/walkthroughs/website on one monitor while gaming on another monitor.
Would it make any sense to have one 16:9 monitor with the 21:9 monitor ?
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 23:07 Post subject: |
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I have the exact same panel but from Crossover. Only thing to keep in mind this is not true HDR so your experience will vary but good news news only about 10 PC games support!
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 23:09 Post subject: |
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That Benq looks nice. But be aware - AMVA will ghost like shit. Benq usually has terrible overdrive which still lefts trails when moving or is overly aggressive and produces inversion artifacts (white ghosting).
Also - It's nowhere near real HDR. It's only 300 nit max brightness and no local dimming zones. Real hdr have at least 1000 max brightness and like 300 local dimming zones (or are oled).
So, if You are good with (most probably) plenty of ghosting/trailing and no hdr, then it should be nice.
There are probably better options but I wouldn't know, sorry.
edit: Should specify - AMVA ghosting can also looks like if picture was getting a bit darker during movement. Like - if You look camera when looking at a night sky in a game, some smaller stars will disappear during camera movement. it is va. You trade motion for excellent colors and black quality.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 23:11 Post subject: |
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| Przepraszam wrote: | | I have the exact same panel but from Crossover. Only thing to keep in mind this is not true HDR so your experience will vary but good news news only about 10 PC games support! |
Yeah I read about that it's not true HDR. I can get this monitor new for around 1k and that's my max budget atm.
Would you consider spending more money to buy a true HDR monitor for future proof ?
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 23:17 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | That Benq looks nice. But be aware - AMVA will ghost like shit. Benq usually has terrible overdrive which still lefts trails when moving or is overly aggressive and produces inversion artifacts (white ghosting).
Also - It's nowhere near real HDR. It's only 300 nit max brightness and no local dimming zones. Real hdr have at least 1000 max brightness and like 300 local dimming zones (or are oled).
So, if You are good with (most probably) plenty of ghosting/trailing and no hdr, then it should be nice.
There are probably better options but I wouldn't know, sorry.
edit: Should specify - AMVA ghosting can also looks like if picture was getting a bit darker during movement. Like - if You look camera when looking at a night sky in a game, some smaller stars will disappear during camera movement. it is va. You trade motion for excellent colors and black quality. |
Thanks alot for this information. What Ultrawide monitors would you guys recommend ? 1440p is crucial and it would be awesome to have 100+ Hz.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 23:17 Post subject: |
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| Tumitishdu wrote: | | Przepraszam wrote: | | I have the exact same panel but from Crossover. Only thing to keep in mind this is not true HDR so your experience will vary but good news news only about 10 PC games support! |
Yeah I read about that it's not true HDR. I can get this monitor new for around 1k and that's my max budget atm.
Would you consider spending more money to buy a true HDR monitor for future proof ? |
There is no true HDR monitor and UW with it won't be available for 1-2 years...
Maybe Q8 of 2018 if we are lucky.
I bought it anyway coz pc games support is piss-poor and I already have HDR 4K TV. |
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 23:19 Post subject: |
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| Tumitishdu wrote: | | KillerCrocker wrote: | That Benq looks nice. But be aware - AMVA will ghost like shit. Benq usually has terrible overdrive which still lefts trails when moving or is overly aggressive and produces inversion artifacts (white ghosting).
Also - It's nowhere near real HDR. It's only 300 nit max brightness and no local dimming zones. Real hdr have at least 1000 max brightness and like 300 local dimming zones (or are oled).
So, if You are good with (most probably) plenty of ghosting/trailing and no hdr, then it should be nice.
There are probably better options but I wouldn't know, sorry.
edit: Should specify - AMVA ghosting can also looks like if picture was getting a bit darker during movement. Like - if You look camera when looking at a night sky in a game, some smaller stars will disappear during camera movement. it is va. You trade motion for excellent colors and black quality. |
Thanks alot for this information. What Ultrawide monitors would you guys recommend ? 1440p is crucial and it would be awesome to have 100+ Hz. |
hehe no idea.
I know Gabe Newell is using acer x34 and people love this monitor series.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 23:22 Post subject: |
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IPS is a panel lottery. People are returning their monitors multiple times before they get somehow remotely good. VA has its own set of problems.
It's matter of personal preference. I prefer VA > IPS.
Check out http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/
They have reviewed multiple 34' UW panels from both IPS/VA.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 23:25 Post subject: |
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Keep in mind some "competitive" games online don't allow for the UW resolution because it's "an unfair advantage"
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 23:33 Post subject: |
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Thanks alot guys I really appreciate it. I will think this through, but I think I will be getting this one since I wont have to wait after selling all my monitors and it has a nice price compared to other ones.
But what competitive games dont allow UW resolution ? I don't play CSGO but I do play Escape from Tarkov, Pubg and R6 Siege.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jan 2018 00:15 Post subject: |
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Overwatch is one, there's been a fight over it since release. They have "Fake" support of it where it zooms in the FOV to balance it out which is retarded.
Diablo III, not really ALL that competitive but depends what modes you play
Pubg you might want to dig into more because 3 months ago it was still a problem where they faked it like Blizzard did.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/6ylkut/about_pubg_and_its_219_support/
Escape from Tarkov doesn't officially support it but last I read you could manually change it in the ini files, I don't know if this will get picked up as a "cheat" or not for modified game files so look more into that.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jan 2018 00:30 Post subject: |
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Diablo 3 supports ultrawide if you run it in borderless fullscreen, unless they changed it recently.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jan 2018 13:00 Post subject: |
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Yeah that's really retarded with Overwatch. But it wont matter since I dont play it. I own it though but it's not my cup of tea.
Hopefully Pubg will figure this out soon.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Jan 2018 00:33 Post subject: |
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Bought the BenQ 3440x1440 100Hz "Fake HDR" But it looks fantastic. Way better then all my other monitors.
Sold all my monitors and bought this one, I only had to pay 100 bucks in between.
Although 1080Ti struggles with some games to maintain 60FPS at this resolution if every setting is set to Max.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Jan 2018 02:18 Post subject: |
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Don't use any DSR and only use postprocessing AA 
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Jan 2018 02:58 Post subject: |
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nice!
gratz!
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Jan 2018 10:09 Post subject: |
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Thanks alot! Yeah it's fantastic! I couldn't recommend it more, it just gives so much more when gaming.
Sucks with Escape from Tarkov though it feels like it's not optimized for 21:9 because it's like its zoomed in or something like that. Hopefully they will fix it.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Jan 2018 10:27 Post subject: |
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I got an Ultrawide too and it's great! So much more working space and in games it nice to see more on the side instead on top and bottom. You definitely feel more immersed.
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Jan 2018 02:57 Post subject: |
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It's a bit overrated for games imo because it looks very small vertically which does take away a bit from the immersion. For 2D and strategy i don't care, but for 3D it takes away a bit.
My non-UW TV (4K) has wider res than my ultra wide monitor (which is 3440x1440) + the TV can show 1080p in native resolution (since it's exactly half of its 4K res). 1080p can be nice to have for very (/too) demanding games.
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Jan 2018 08:47 Post subject: |
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What? 34" when watched from normal position pretty much fills your whole vision, or are you one of those people who has monitor 3 meters away?
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Jan 2018 17:10 Post subject: |
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With proper implementation, which most games have these days, you don't get lower vertical FOV. Vertically you get the same picture as with 16:9, but horizontally you get more - it adds to a 16:9 display at the sides.
For 3D, the problems you are describing have nothing to do with aspect ratios or resolution, but with screen size. A "normal" 4K screen can be smaller than an ultrawide screen. Your 4K TV will have slightly higher horizontal resolution, but its horizontal FOV will be lower while vertical will remain the same. It fills more of your vision because it's bigger, but it will show you less.
It would have been the same thing if it was a 1080p TV, just with less pixels.
Perhaps the problem is that you are comparing them inches to inches. As in, a 32" 16:9 to 34" UW.
In reality a 34" ultrawide is a 27" 16:9 display stretched out horizontally.
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