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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 12:26 Post subject: |
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Yeah, really. To each his own, I guess. I like the exploration, but the world feels like something straight out of a seriously bad b-movie.
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 13:01 Post subject: |
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Aquma wrote: | I tried playing it for a bit, and I instantly got the exploration bug. Typical for PB games, but still nice. That's the good part. The bad part... The world feels incredibly cheesy and cheap to me. It's the Sharkando of post-apo games, with people who call themselves Berserkers because it sounds cool, magic and tech really awkwardly fit together and dialogue lines that make you cringe so hard your face nearly splits. Combat is also as bad as ever, but that's PB for you, they can't design a decent system for the life of them. That, however, is okay. The world though... I honestly don't know if I can stomach it, even though I do see some fun to be had in this game. I'll give it a few hours. |
Well it's a bit better in german still a bit cheesy but that's true for everything here these days, i guess the localization makes it seem worse, i noticed that with their earlier games as well.
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 13:48 Post subject: |
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tet666 wrote: | Aquma wrote: | I tried playing it for a bit, and I instantly got the exploration bug. Typical for PB games, but still nice. That's the good part. The bad part... The world feels incredibly cheesy and cheap to me. It's the Sharkando of post-apo games, with people who call themselves Berserkers because it sounds cool, magic and tech really awkwardly fit together and dialogue lines that make you cringe so hard your face nearly splits. Combat is also as bad as ever, but that's PB for you, they can't design a decent system for the life of them. That, however, is okay. The world though... I honestly don't know if I can stomach it, even though I do see some fun to be had in this game. I'll give it a few hours. |
Well it's a bit better in german still a bit cheesy but that's true for everything here these days, i guess the localization makes it seem worse, i noticed that with their earlier games as well. |
Well, having lived in the Ruhrpott for some years myself... I feel like the cheese is actually pretty true to life. In pretty much all of their games. But maybe you guys are talking about something else being cheesy 
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 13:55 Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 13:56 Post subject: |
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The game is nice but very bad at the same time like someone pissed in your capucinno
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 14:05 Post subject: |
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I am trying to imagine the taste of Capuccino and piss combined, to decide whether I want to play the game...
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 14:16 Post subject: |
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vurt wrote: | inz wrote: |
Yeah, considering they're already working on Elex 2 don't expect much in ways of post-release support for this one.  |
Wow, they are, it seems. "supported with 150,000€ from EU".. well, good for them, at least 1 thing that EU has done right
....now if EU could also put in 150,000€ for support of patches for the two games, that would be great  |
Those 150k apparently keeps PB afloat for a single month 
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 14:27 Post subject: |
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Err... with 150k you can pay what... 2 developers in Germany? (not even very highly paid ones)
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 14:34 Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 15:14 Post subject: |
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They are currently 27 people in total apparently. I mean, as long as they can produce everything themselves, they don't need to pay more than the wages (yes, I know, I simplified this alot, but I hope my point comes across) and the team just slaves away driven on their salary and passion. At least that seems to be their work attitude, which I actualy love about them. I mean, they repurposed a fucking normal house as their office. It's like the indie dev upgraded from the garage to the living room
But yeah, the flaws of PB games are propably more based on possibly incompetence, stubornness and other shit than actual funding. At least that's the feeling I have.
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 16:00 Post subject: |
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Bob Barnsen wrote: | Anyone managed to disable double-tap for dodging yet?
It's really unbelievable how amateurish PB still are after all those years, to not let people disable shit like that. |
Am i the only one annoyed by that crap?
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 17:11 Post subject: |
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Bob Barnsen wrote: | Bob Barnsen wrote: | Anyone managed to disable double-tap for dodging yet?
It's really unbelievable how amateurish PB still are after all those years, to not let people disable shit like that. |
Am i the only one annoyed by that crap? |
No, you are not the only one.
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 18:44 Post subject: |
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any sign from devs when first fixes will come?
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 18:57 Post subject: |
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Aquma wrote: | Yeah, really. To each his own, I guess. I like the exploration, but the world feels like something straight out of a seriously bad b-movie. |
This is basically the very first time our opinion differs.
I agree, the whole game setting, writing, and everything else is B-movie level. But that is exactly, what I was expecting.
The combat I like - same as all PB combat. I like the feeling of discovery and having to work hard to become powerful.
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 19:48 Post subject: |
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lolozaur wrote: | any sign from devs when first fixes will come? |
Nothing in Steam DB so far.
https://steamdb.info/search/?a=app&q=elex
Usually there's some in-progress test or Q&A branch or even a daily build branch but nope, no further activity in six days since the public branch was last updated.
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 20:41 Post subject: |
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This time PB outdid themselves in how majorly bugged the game is. None of the attributes work in a way their description says - strength does NOT increase melee damage, Constitution does NOT affect HP in any way (neither when increasing Constitution nor when leveling up with more Constitution), Intelligence does not increase mana, etc. Many skills are bugged too, such as "Extra Hitpoints" giving 10 HP once and nothing after level ups, books and "Bookworm" skill giving no XP, "Experienced Hunter" not affecting your companion kills.
Lets see how fast they will patch this mess (if ever). But playing it in a state like that is just pointless.
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 21:06 Post subject: |
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@PowerGamer dont know what you have been smoking lol
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 21:18 Post subject: |
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lolozaur wrote: | @PowerGamer dont know what you have been smoking lol |
If you don't believe me you can easily test it out yourself with the Cheat Engine.
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 21:40 Post subject: |
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there is a patch out for the gog version
patch_elex_1.0__15133__to_1.1__15807_
not sure what the patch notes are though
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 21:43 Post subject: |
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@PowerGamer
Maybe you haven't found all addresses to make it work via CE?
Have you tried testing it without cheats?
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 21:48 Post subject: |
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h0rnyfavn wrote: | @PowerGamer
Maybe you haven't found all addresses to make it work via CE?
Have you tried testing it without cheats? |
I found addresses for attribute points and mana/HP - enough for testing, without CE the results would be the same.
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Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 21:50 Post subject: |
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@PowerGamer
Create a topic on the steam forums then, post your findings and let's see what others and, hopefully, devs, have to say coz this needs to be addressed pronto if true.
PS cheatengine tables are out on the unofficial forum.
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