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hellishere




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2017 22:20    Post subject:
I just did the update, and now none of my win 10 games will launch, this includes GOW4 forza horizon 3 and forza 7.. any tips?...


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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2017 23:05    Post subject:
mh no clue

but try reinstallling the nvidia driver. everything worked fine for me after the update but i reinstalled them nevertheless and even the nvidia installer hasnt detected any driver installed (cant say i forza worked or not, dunno if i ran it before reinstalling the drivers ,but fifa worked fine for example)
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thudo




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2017 23:10    Post subject:
But but.. isn't it great to be.. current?!?!?


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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2017 23:23    Post subject:
Laughing Laughing like I said, I'll skip Laughing


thudo wrote:
How do you figure? Yer gonna conform regardless otherwise what other alternative? You're gonna get it.. eventually... butt hurt now or later... Mr. Green


No Sir! I wont conform, ever! Next iteration of LTSB will do me. I'll wait a long time for it, but I'm in no hurry Wink
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thudo




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2017 03:32    Post subject:
Dunno... never had a single issue with any of the major updates. Neutral


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ixigia
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2017 03:35    Post subject:
It's always a good habit to wait at least until the microdust settles, potential soft fuckups gets fixed and things become stable before entering the minefield when it comes to such updates (just like it happened the last time). I'll push the button too one day, just..not now, can't quite afford being a guinea pig. Razz
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2017 05:22    Post subject:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/76t8r4/windows_10_fall_creators_update1709_megathread/


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thudo




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2017 06:33    Post subject:
Yep I usually wait a few months before each Redstone release. However I seem to have no choice as no matter what it takes a while for it to show up in Windows Update.


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escalibur




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2017 07:12    Post subject:
I've just updated my PC. So far so good. Smile


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0wen




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2017 18:09    Post subject:
I just updated to the new Windows 10 Fall Creators update and it broke most of my Steam game icons. What is weird it did not break all the icons but most of them and I am not sure how to fix them.
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dr-nix




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2017 18:54    Post subject:
you could try deleting the icon cache -> https://www.howtogeek.com/232779/how-to-rebuild-a-broken-icon-cache-in-windows-10/

If that doesn't do it you can manually fix the shortcuts by just right clicking on the shortcut, open properties and choose change icon.

The exe file in the steam library normally has the icon embedded in it.


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Paintface




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2017 19:17    Post subject:
forza horizon also not starting after update
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Xenthalon




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2017 19:27    Post subject:
Got the update, no major issues yet. Monitor color profile was messed up somehow though, did the display calibration wizard and all is fine again. Really weird, seems like Windows brightness or contrast was set too low.
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hellishere




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2017 20:41    Post subject:
Paintface wrote:
forza horizon also not starting after update


I could not find a fix and im short on time, and since most ppl here just say "durr durr never install on first day" i eventualy formated and i am downloading forza again to see whats up.

I installed this update in hopes to fix the stuttering that was prevelant in the last creators update, so by the logic of some here, we should never EVER update. lol.
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morgan2468




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2017 20:43    Post subject:
i can't install the new Windows 10 Fall Creators update, after installing it windows just gets to the welcome screen and keeps on looping the welcome screen never getting in to windows, i have to reinstall windows again for it to work.


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0wen




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2017 23:29    Post subject:
dr-nix wrote:
you could try deleting the icon cache -> https://www.howtogeek.com/232779/how-to-rebuild-a-broken-icon-cache-in-windows-10/

If that doesn't do it you can manually fix the shortcuts by just right clicking on the shortcut, open properties and choose change icon.

The exe file in the steam library normally has the icon embedded in it.


I just tried that and it still did not fix the issue. These are the broken icons I am referring to in case I am calling out the wrong descriptions.



Both in the Steam folder in the start menu and the start tabs show these blank icons after the verify the integrity in Steam and resetting the shell icon cache now and rebooting after it was done. Verify the integrity in Steam does fix the missing icons in the \Program Files\(x86)\Steam\steam\games folder where they are all stored but I cannot seem to get them to appear fixed in the start menu or tab view even though when I right click and open file location it now shows the icon in that folder.
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2017 01:38    Post subject:
Laughing

Sorry, lol...

Hilarious (to me) Very Happy Fuckin nonsense piece of shit, it really is. Don't worry though, Mr Microsoft will be in with 'words of wisdom' soon, so you will be fine Wink

(sounds like all that shit is sucking up everything and leaving nothing for the icon cache, or MS has decided it don't like you using Steam, or both?) Update 15990034.1599 incoming! BEWARE! lol
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spajdr




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2017 06:21    Post subject:
No issue so far here, just need to reinstall KMSPico to stop being informed to register legal Windows Very Happy
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difm




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2017 09:19    Post subject:
morgan2468 wrote:
i can't install the new Windows 10 Fall Creators update, after installing it windows just gets to the welcome screen and keeps on looping the welcome screen never getting in to windows, i have to reinstall windows again for it to work.


If you have to reinstall whole Windows again then why don't you just download the latest iso from MS site?


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Roach_666




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2017 14:41    Post subject:
Clean booted Version 1709, Build 16299.19, then activated with KMSPico Nova's portable.

Installed it this fast since I won't have the time later on.

Will report any potential fuckups.
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Guy_Incognito




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2017 15:35    Post subject:
Just for the info:

VL:
Code:
1bbf886697a485c18d70ad294a09c08cb3c064ac *en_windows_10_multi-edition_vl_version_1709_updated_sept_2017_x64_dvd_100090741.iso
8c274ce27b49d43216dfef115b811936880e6e06 *en_windows_10_multi-edition_vl_version_1709_updated_sept_2017_x86_dvd_100090759.iso


Retail/MSDNAA/DreamSpark:
Code:
1ad928cfef439f6aa4044ddc3a96b0b6830bdd0f *en_windows_10_multi-edition_version_1709_updated_sept_2017_x64_dvd_100090817.iso
93b317c82b69252027e57aa2d18b50825cdf443e *en_windows_10_multi-edition_version_1709_updated_sept_2017_x86_dvd_100090818.iso
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Roach_666




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2017 16:10    Post subject:
Also, one can use the Media Creation Tool from here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
and then download the latest Windows 10 ISO of 3.54 GB. After download has finished, use Rufus to make the image USB bootable.

And then successfully boot install from there, saying I don't have a key.
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Guy_Incognito




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 13:01    Post subject:
Yeah, but I'm kinda sucker for official releases.
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streetunder




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 17:09    Post subject:


Hey guys, just did a clean install of win 10 1709, is there any way to terminate ctfmon.exe process?

I tried everything.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Oct 2017 19:34    Post subject:
That's part of RS3 now, used to just trigger for certain language settings and office but it's a default now though perhaps setting the service to disabled could work but they can get re-enabled if the OS deems it important so it's not so easily removed.

I'll have to search around a bit and see if I can't find anything else about it.

https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-ctfmonexe-and-why-is-it-running/


EDIT: Disabling the touch service might work.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/771p0m/fcu_ctfmonexe_starting_with_windows/
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Oct 2017 03:33    Post subject:
streetunder wrote:


Hey guys, just did a clean install of win 10 1709, is there any way to terminate ctfmon.exe process?

I tried everything.


I'd be more worried about that 'Opera' than ctfmon, lol...

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streetunder




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Oct 2017 06:38    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
That's part of RS3 now, used to just trigger for certain language settings and office but it's a default now though perhaps setting the service to disabled could work but they can get re-enabled if the OS deems it important so it's not so easily removed.

I'll have to search around a bit and see if I can't find anything else about it.

https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-ctfmonexe-and-why-is-it-running/


EDIT: Disabling the touch service might work.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/771p0m/fcu_ctfmonexe_starting_with_windows/


Tried to turn off touchpad, keyboard and handwriting stuff, no luck, even after reboot.

Disabling TabletInputService did the trick, its the only way it seems.

The process is not heavy on memory at all, but it is strange to see it there since i dont see it on background processes, since Windows XP maybe? and now is back? wtf?

Thank you JBeckman! Smile

scaramonga wrote:
streetunder wrote:


Hey guys, just did a clean install of win 10 1709, is there any way to terminate ctfmon.exe process?

I tried everything.


I'd be more worried about that 'Opera' than ctfmon, lol...



Well, i can close Opera everytime i want, no problem, and i have 16gb of Ram.

When i took that print screen i had like 5 separate pages open, and for me opera is way more simple and quicker then any browser out there (imo).

I just want to be able to close all the useless processess when i want to play games.
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2017 21:53    Post subject:
Well.. I've decided it's time to reinstall windows 10 just because (I reinstalled windows 95,98,xp like once a week when I was a kid for some stupid reason or another).

So media creation tool - > usb - > 5 minutes to install and all seems fine BUT:
-Game mode cannot be disabled anymore? (Your pc supports game mode)
-Windows store did not worked (some manifest error) - changing to USA region, resetting the app, restarting helped. Then I could update store and change back to Poland region.

Overall it seems media creation tool is not makind those fall update discs. Apparently it is crap - I already 3 times had settings(control panel) menu crap on me but I could just open it again. And from time to time, a quick error appears on right hand corner which I am not fast enough to read Laughing

Guess i will have to wait for them to compile better ISO on media creation tool and redownload/reinstall when they get their shit together

edit: oh and on top of that I get that great solitare effect when resizing winamp now. YES I still use winamp 4 lyfe!
edit2: NEW PROBLEM - Chrome just stops when I minimize it lol. In order to listen to any video I have to have chrome not minimised


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Janz




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2017 22:37    Post subject:
for some stupid reason you need to activate/deactivate the game mode through the gamebar... (but it seems if you deactivate the gamebar its set to off anyway, started a few games with the bar active (have it deactivated normally) and in none the gamemode was active, not even in first party store titles like forza 7)

Quote:

Overall it seems media creation tool is not makind those fall update discs. Apparently it is crap

apparently you dont know how it works. it sure creates current isos with the 16299.15 build, BUT only if you download the new version of it. if you stored the mct on your harddrive it builds the older version from the time you downloaded the tool (and yes thats a bit crappy)
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2017 22:43    Post subject:
Thanks.. that makes no sense - they are idiots.
Any idea what causes chrome to stop playing any video when I minimize it? This is just bad... why would they even "update" windows like that


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