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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 20:57    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
Morphineus wrote:
Wait a min... people are actually excited to play this cancerous piece of garbage. Yup, I'm really surprised by that.

So I am not the only one who will not download this piece of shit ?


Nope. Just gonna wait till I can have the "complete" game for 5€, just like the first one. And still might not even play it... Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 20:58    Post subject:
I guess going for the Nemesis difficulty is the way to go?

"Normal" sounds too casual for a AAA game. Though Nemesis sounds like buttrape.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 20:58    Post subject:
dethy wrote:
lolozaur wrote:
http://www.allgamesdelta.net/2017/10/you-can-get-unlimited-shadow-of-war.html


How? Cheat Engine?

no idea but cheathappens already has trainers that give that
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 20:59    Post subject:
Camera is kind of weird in this game, far too close sometimes, FOV is kinda whack as well.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 21:02    Post subject:
WHEATTHlNS wrote:
Rage wrote:


I mean the lack of irony is just staggering. . .it's got to be parody at this point from some of these users.

What does all that even mean

So now I am the bad guy for openly disliking the crappy AAA game which only 3 days ago everyone hated for it's shady scummy practices? Laughing
I mean, if it's similar to first game, it's medicore at best. It was a borefest released in a year when almost no other aaa games released. No good characters, terrible story, terrible open world. Just grinding orcs.
I would be happy to be wrong, so if the game is actually great and I am a misinformed idiot, please correct me Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 21:05    Post subject:
Also surprisingly you can disable about 20 HUD elements, not bad for this game:



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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 21:36    Post subject:
I remembered that from the first game, they come back eventually unless you use a decapitation finisher. (Played with in the second game, one of the orcs outright states this.)

I actually killed a orc captain a short while ago and then just a few moments after another captain just barrels straight into me and screams on how I killed his blood brother, so he gets to die too and then ANOTHER orc barrels into me screaming on how I killed his brethren and after him yet another.

There is some pretty interesting AI personalities to some of these characters even if it's RNG how these captains will turn out aside from quest specific ones that are always the same, anything from insane babblers to half-troll bruisers and more stealth focused captains each with their own strengths and weaknesses.


They also have a way to finish you off in a more brutal fashion this time and they actually break your weapon too when it happens (And they will kill you a few times.) which as with the first game also promotes them and levels them up but if you take them down you get your weapon back but it's also a bit stronger now.

Also a lot of feuding between rival captains so there's a lot of duels and such going on as they rise in the ranks even without the players interference and as a new addition there's full on different clans of orcs instead of just sub-types such as hunter or defender (And a couple of new additions like the half-trolls.) I guess a more creative player could set up some pretty interesting encounters and the AI seems flexible even if combat AI is a bit weak.

There's a ton of British accent banter too as you sneak through the various encampments though also a lot of combat quips and taunts and such.



And yes the first game too allowed you to break orcs by killing them over and over as you encountered them, they change after every battle and whether it's scars or missing limbs or even their very mind you can be pretty brutal in how you deal with them.
(Though I remember just experimenting with it seeing how far I could push things, not putting the game down because that one orc came back and asked me to stop.)




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Bow causes frost nova looking things on a headshot, dagger causes corpses to explode though this can kill Talion too, lots of bodies means things start burning and with the ice going off it gets pretty busy, one of the bros can be seen slightly due to the glowy arrows sticking out of his arse in the background too.


EDIT: Came back wrong I guess.
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/862862112357496969/71E8D53E2AA3F6A3E1174F0DB83CC3368FE32886/
(Maggots too, could just be one of those cursed or necrotic orc types but eh, probably also a returner since they get pretty fucking messed up after a few failures. Very Happy )
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 22:02    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Also surprisingly you can disable about 20 HUD elements, not bad for this game:


I can't even think about downloading the game at the moment because I should start a multilayered strategic plan to delete movies and purge other beloved games, but that's good to know for the future. Granted, it might still play itself anyway Cool Face, though at least having less cancerous interfaces is..something.

I didn't dislike the first Mordor either for what it was (brainless AAA popcorn Mcjunk Razz), provided that the player would ignore the many invincibility abilities and activate the self-gimping procedure in order to keep the combat free from something resembling a cinematic auto-resolve. I'm not sure this sequel is following the right route, but I'll probably give it an isowhirl someday out of curiosity and pursue the male fantasy®



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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 22:27    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 22:28    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 22:34    Post subject:
garus wrote:
Also is Kumail Jumanji (Laughing) really doing a voice over for one of the Orcs?


Yup! Talks about it at about 3:38
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 22:42    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 23:13    Post subject:
Updated, exe only.
https://steamdb.info/app/356190/depots/

Quote:

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Steam Only - Michael Carr hydra studio fix



Whatever that is, Google seems to indicate some online service.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 23:31    Post subject:
Emergency patch, aka "oh shit it's cracked"
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 23:41    Post subject:
nah my bet is "oh shit cheaters are cheating lootboxes" .... thats much more emergency to them than something thats already done


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Oct 2017 23:58    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
http://www.allgamesdelta.net/2017/10/you-can-get-unlimited-shadow-of-war.html


That edited currency is just the stuff you can gain via normal gameplay, no? The paid lootboxes/currency afaik requires connection to the game servers so it'll take a bit more doing than just editing some byte value.

Won't be playing until tomorrow myself, but guess I'll snoop around a bit then. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Oct 2017 00:09    Post subject:
BTW: even for ingame curentcy lootboxes (aka only place to get training and reaassign orders for orcs) you need to be online


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Oct 2017 00:24    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
WHEATTHlNS wrote:
Rage wrote:


I mean the lack of irony is just staggering. . .it's got to be parody at this point from some of these users.

What does all that even mean

So now I am the bad guy for openly disliking the crappy AAA game which only 3 days ago everyone hated for it's shady scummy practices? Laughing
I mean, if it's similar to first game, it's medicore at best. It was a borefest released in a year when almost no other aaa games released. No good characters, terrible story, terrible open world. Just grinding orcs.
I would be happy to be wrong, so if the game is actually great and I am a misinformed idiot, please correct me Crying or Very sad


I'm not going to debate on the subjective feelings about a game. However you cosigned on someone who called the game "cancerous." There's hyperbole and then there is hyperbole. It's just absurd at some point. And yes my reaction is more of a collective reaction to the absurdity in this thread (I nearly fell out of my chair when someone used "the casuals" without a hint of satire) of which I have lumped you into (perhaps unfairly, I'm open to being proven offbase).


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Oct 2017 00:43    Post subject:
Well the practices of this game are cancerous to our hobby, no?
If that is hyperbole... shit son, than I don't know how far you will bend for these publishers.

Anywho:
I was genuinely surprised that after all the slagging off here, people were still eager to download it.
I have a wild enough imagination to know some people out there would enjoy it (and that is fine)... but reading the comments just before release and then comparing it with the eagerness of getting it at release is what baffled me.




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Oct 2017 00:44    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
BTW: even for ingame curentcy lootboxes (aka only place to get training and reaassign orders for orcs) you need to be online


Is that a big deal, then? Do you mean training for yourself, or for your orc peons?
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Oct 2017 00:51    Post subject:
inz wrote:
prudislav wrote:
BTW: even for ingame curentcy lootboxes (aka only place to get training and reaassign orders for orcs) you need to be online


Is that a big deal, then? Do you mean training for yourself, or for your orc peons?

training for orcs (stuff like sending him to hunt for a mount or for new weapon) and rearange for switching orcs between frotresses


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Oct 2017 01:59    Post subject:
3 out of 4 orcs I recruited betrayed me. I shamed one twice and he lost his sanity. he made weird noises so I had to put him out of his misery. Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Oct 2017 06:26    Post subject:
garus wrote:
Also is Kumail Jumanji (Laughing) really doing a voice over for one of the Orcs?


Who?

Anyway, anyone else having problems getting a good copy off newsgroups? Most are corrupt etc.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Oct 2017 07:18    Post subject:
Okay, played a bit yesterday.


Two things i immediately noticed:

- Movement is very clunky. For example you get stuck at obstacles quite easily, instead of the character just automatically running over them. And jumping on or off ledges feels way too annoying. For example i was not able to just run over a ledge to fall down to the lower area. Nope, i first have to press a key to "hang" from it, and then press again to let go.

- Mouse controls are fucking terrible for me. It feels so muddy and delayed. Anyone else has this too or knows of a fix?


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Oct 2017 07:26    Post subject:
There's some latency or something with the mouse controls same as the first game, would be nice to see it fixed but I wouldn't hope too much on it being fixed.

Movement is indeed a bit like the early Assassin's Creed games although at least the character isn't dry humping every little architectural creation you run into. Very Happy

Elven sprint helps once unlocked, still have to manually jump over stuff though and then double jumping ("of sorts.") also helps traversal or you could just go doggy style on a Caragor.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Oct 2017 07:50    Post subject:
So installed. All i can say is WOW that HDR implementation. Fuck it’s so good colorwise. Tried SDR after just for laughs and looks horrible.

Think it’s the best i’ve seen pc and ps4 games combined.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Oct 2017 07:54    Post subject:
That I can understand, all the different time of day possibilities for the areas the game offers for exploration and weather conditions that can occur in them too not to mention caves and such would no doubt make for a excellent showcase of proper HDR and not just the old adaptive brightness shader effect. Smile

EDIT: Also it seems Evil Within 2 is currently not supporting HDR either on PC or console so it might come in a later update.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Oct 2017 08:04    Post subject:
Yeah barely started and just staring in awe at the beginner zones (cave, the forest area after etc).

Gonna be great when HDR becomes mainstream, such a great visual impact for no performance cost, it’s insane.

Also will be great since most people might then understand better what it actually does instead of ‘lolz halflife 2 had HDR / just use reshade and enable HDR’ etc >.<


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Oct 2017 11:18    Post subject:
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