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vaifan1986
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I can't wait for the next CitizenCon. Good snake oil merchants are always fun to watch on stage.
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Jun 2017 20:39 Post subject: |
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I'm close to feeling my $35 was worth all the juicy drama we've been getting over the years.
Seriously, think about it. Their game is very VERY bare bones yet they paid a small fortune to get Gary Oldman to act in a scene while they didn't even get the basics in place yet. I mean, they threw away money so they could jerk off about how amazing their game might be at Citizen Con. When you pull crap like that, it shows how extremely incapable you are. You leave stuff like that for the LAST leg of the development cycle. You can just hire cheap actors if money ends up running low - but to throw it away on a famous face for what is essentially a cut scene while the game needs so much work on the actual content ... ugh.
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jun 2017 02:56 Post subject: |
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| red_avatar wrote: | I'm close to feeling my $35 was worth all the juicy drama we've been getting over the years.
Seriously, think about it. Their game is very VERY bare bones yet they paid a small fortune to get Gary Oldman to act in a scene while they didn't even get the basics in place yet. I mean, they threw away money so they could jerk off about how amazing their game might be at Citizen Con. When you pull crap like that, it shows how extremely incapable you are. You leave stuff like that for the LAST leg of the development cycle. You can just hire cheap actors if money ends up running low - but to throw it away on a famous face for what is essentially a cut scene while the game needs so much work on the actual content ... ugh. |
Maybe that WAS the game.. it wasn't a space game at all, but a long running ARG 
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Jul 2017 13:34 Post subject: |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Jul 2017 13:46 Post subject: |
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Isn't the citizen con or whatever in august? More news (or 's) by then I guess. Only mildly interested on the campaign anyway...
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AnarchoS
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Jul 2017 14:29 Post subject: |
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You know what would really accelerate the development of your space game? Focus on the fucking space part. I'm pretty sure they could shit out a few thousand solar systems in record time if they didn't have any stupid ground/1st person bullshit to worry about.
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chiv
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Jul 2017 15:27 Post subject: |
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imagine if theyd just made the game they promised theyd make... a grand space sim. got that done, released it...
THEN started working on the first person ground stuff... shit... even sell it as a moderately priced dlc... everyone would have shit themselves.. HOLY SHIT, FIRST PERSON GROUND COMBAT IN MY SPACE SIM! NOW THATS HOW YOU EXPAND A CONCEPT AND ADD AMAZING CONTENT, SIGN ME UP!!!
instead its just this bogged down mess of empty promises and ruined dreams.
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Jul 2017 18:39 Post subject: |
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And yet people still throw money at this ridiculous money making scam. And defend it, and belittle anyone who tries to point out the obviousness of the truth.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Jul 2017 18:53 Post subject: |
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It's getting truly depressive, how excited I was at the kickstarter and just gradually lost every bit of that. I thought the removal of certain people was their low point, but nope they keep on finding more ways to drop.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Jul 2017 18:59 Post subject: |
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They haven't fucked up anything => Do as little work as possible and milk as much money as you can. This scam will let Chris' children,grandchildren etc to live without a care in the world and eventually Chris The 100th will build a real space ship and colonize Mars. . 
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Jul 2017 19:12 Post subject: |
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notice how even Chris's lapdog Casus has been quiet lately. This is truly significant.
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garus
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Jul 2017 20:32 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Jul 2017 22:03 Post subject: |
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| garus wrote: | | chiv wrote: | imagine if theyd just made the game they promised theyd make... a grand space sim. got that done, released it...
THEN started working on the first person ground stuff... shit... even sell it as a moderately priced dlc... everyone would have shit themselves.. HOLY SHIT, FIRST PERSON GROUND COMBAT IN MY SPACE SIM! NOW THATS HOW YOU EXPAND A CONCEPT AND ADD AMAZING CONTENT, SIGN ME UP!!!
instead its just this bogged down mess of empty promises and ruined dreams. |
You are missing one thing. They don't actually want to finish anything. |
While that is speculation in it's truest form, at least i don't think they'll ever finish it.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Jul 2017 23:29 Post subject: |
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| DCB wrote: | | h0rnyfavn wrote: | | eventually Chris The 100th will build a real space ship and colonize Mars. . |
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Haha perfect |
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Jul 2017 17:04 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | imagine if theyd just made the game they promised theyd make... a grand space sim. got that done, released it...
THEN started working on the first person ground stuff... shit... even sell it as a moderately priced dlc... everyone would have shit themselves.. HOLY SHIT, FIRST PERSON GROUND COMBAT IN MY SPACE SIM! NOW THATS HOW YOU EXPAND A CONCEPT AND ADD AMAZING CONTENT, SIGN ME UP!!!
instead its just this bogged down mess of empty promises and ruined dreams. |
I think he saw the money rolling in and he just went in megalomaniac mode.
I think he's a distant cousin of Peter Mollyneux. Funny thing is, I have many old 90's magazines and to see him revered every time he gets a mention really makes you wonder how fleeting fame is. If he had retired and just rested on his list of classics, he would have been a cult hero. Even Lionhead was a big step down from Bullfrog and harmed his reputation big time.
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Jul 2017 18:07 Post subject: |
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One More Go syndrome.
Someone who was very good once, still thinking they 'have it', using their name to make the impossible sound plausible.. only to discover it is impossible for a reason...
Won't be the last.
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vaifan1986
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Jul 2017 19:59 Post subject: |
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The sudden influx of money fucked with his mind. If he'd received just slightly more than what he initially asked on KS, the scope of the game wouldn't have been blown out of proportion and he'd probably have a functioning game right now. Hell, maybe even SQ42.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Jul 2017 20:08 Post subject: |
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could someone give me a sensible TLDR of Star Citizen?
I remember a couple years back watching a cool walkthrough video and being a bit exited, like NMS but actually good.
So in a nutshell anyone?
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Jul 2017 20:16 Post subject: |
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TLDR: Don't waste your time and money, it's going to take 2 to 4 years before it goes into Early Access.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jul 2017 05:25 Post subject: |
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To expound, Chris Roberts - the guy behind the Wing Commander series - pitched a new space game on Kickstarter which looked pretty fancy. It sounded a bit MMO-ish, which was concerning, but it also included a single player element, Squadron 42, that sounded a lot like Wing Commander.
They made a record amount money by the end of the Kickstarter campaign ($6 mil?), and Roberts decided to change the original plan. Rather than using KS as a means to demonstrate public interest and primarily fund the game via investors, they'd go mostly crowd funded. They continued selling ships after the KS as a means of funding, and people lapped it up with millions of dollars continuing to pour in (they passed $150 mil back in May).
The problem of course is all this money is driven by promises of more content. Even during the KS, stretch goals added a lot of features that weren't really practical, budget-wise. While the game has brought in a ridiculous amount of money, it's pretty clear they are spending it faster then they are making it (they have, what? At least 5 different studios across the world working on it?), leading to promising ever more content in order to generate more money, a vicious cycle.
At this point with the constant feature creep, years past the original release date, and news of financial troubles, it seems like we are likely approaching the point of collapse where they go bankrupt. Whether anything like what they originally pitched actually ends up seeing the light of day, who knows. But don't hold your breath.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jul 2017 07:12 Post subject: |
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| vaifan1986 wrote: | | The sudden influx of money fucked with his mind. If he'd received just slightly more than what he initially asked on KS, the scope of the game wouldn't have been blown out of proportion and he'd probably have a functioning game right now. Hell, maybe even SQ42. |
Given the Freelancer experience, I wouldn't bet on it.
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