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| Posted: Mon, 5th Jun 2017 10:27 Post subject: |
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| highfe wrote: | he should try that with malaga fc  |
That's true but I wouldn't say that doing this achievement even with Real Madrid is as easy as it looks. Just have a look at other teams and coaches. With all the money and players they have winning CL twice in a row it's not as easy as it might look.
Final was a good game and I feel sorry for Juve even RM was definitely a better team.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Jun 2017 10:50 Post subject: |
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I think zidane's best achievement is making the team as a whole group, he gave every player a chance to play, he rested many key players in many matches, before him nobody dared to put out of the team cr7, he made him understand as he said that titles and prizes are won with the big teams and cr7 delivered in the final part of the season after being rested in alot of easy matches in la liga; the spanish media even called team b the reserves team which played in many matches in the second half of the season and most of them delivered winning the matches even more impressively than the "main" team. Like i said not being able to make transfers was a major advantage
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Jun 2017 12:43 Post subject: |
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I think the main reason for Juve's failure is the attitude: they thought they could compete face to face with Real, for the whole game, while is quite evident Real's got the best package overall.
Most of this blame should go to the coach: you should know Real attack is better than your defense (Real scores at least 2-3 goals from I dont know how many matches in a row, especially in Champion's), despite what many people or statistics said. Same goes for Juve's attack against Real defense.
Real has got the pedigree of great results from years: you can't expect to win playing like that. Juve tried for first half (a miracle they were tied, just for one bicycle kick) and of course second half exploded: again, Juve is not used to attack at the same rythm of Real, not for 90 minutes.
Real is *used* to scores lots of goals, Juve is not at the same levels.
This was confirmed by horrible defense stats on the sides (Sandro + Alves, which sometimes went on like a forward, wtf?).
I know it's easy to judge after, but imho a better way would have been a good chess game by Juve, trying to play smart.
Instead they went for the checkers, forward face down like Rocky: this way after 45° they were baked.
In addition, certain key players basically didn't exist for the whole match (Khedira, namely): Higuain can't be blamed a lot, imho, he's not the run&dribble type.
When the whole midfield crumbles you can just watch.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Jun 2017 23:21 Post subject: |
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| AndreaSpooky wrote: |
I think the main reason for Juve's failure is the attitude: they thought they could compete face to face with Real, for the whole game, while is quite evident Real's got the best package overall.
Most of this blame should go to the coach: you should know Real attack is better than your defense (Real scores at least 2-3 goals from I dont know how many matches in a row, especially in Champion's), despite what many people or statistics said. Same goes for Juve's attack against Real defense.
Real has got the pedigree of great results from years: you can't expect to win playing like that. Juve tried for first half (a miracle they were tied, just for one bicycle kick) and of course second half exploded: again, Juve is not used to attack at the same rythm of Real, not for 90 minutes.
Real is *used* to scores lots of goals, Juve is not at the same levels.
This was confirmed by horrible defense stats on the sides (Sandro + Alves, which sometimes went on like a forward, wtf?).
I know it's easy to judge after, but imho a better way would have been a good chess game by Juve, trying to play smart.
Instead they went for the checkers, forward face down like Rocky: this way after 45° they were baked.
In addition, certain key players basically didn't exist for the whole match (Khedira, namely): Higuain can't be blamed a lot, imho, he's not the run&dribble type.
When the whole midfield crumbles you can just watch. |
Yeah, the attitude was catastrophic, there was so much excitement from everyone after the games against Barca (the inevitable one from us fans, but also from the Italian medias, "it's Juve's year!1") that at some point the players themselves and Allegri really started believing that Real could be easily beaten, underestimating their insane roster, their rock-solid mental ability but also their impeccable physical strength.
The other giant problem is, the entire Juve team arrived there in a very, very poor condition. It was already evident in the last 5-6 Serie A matches that things were looking nasty and sluggish for everyone on the pitch, the scudetto was won because there were those safe 10ish points in the bag.
Allegri did some rookie mistakes, at the same time though there weren't many options available in my opinion. Khedira wasn't fit because he was back from an injury, but Marchisio was possibly even worse (he never recovered from the serious knee injury, sadly), and if the other options are Rincon and Lemina, well.   Same for the defenders, he could have used Lichtsteiner or Asamoah instead, but again, those could be alright in Serie A but not in a CL final. No offensive alternatives on the bench either, besides a Cuadrado that stopped running two months ago, so wrong tactics and attitude aside, I believe we were essentially doomed either way.   |
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Jun 2017 17:29 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jun 2017 08:14 Post subject: |
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Balotelli still plays football? How does he keep his career alive, he's a magician
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jun 2017 17:56 Post subject: |
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The sheikhs aren't to happy with the last season. Of course they gonna start buying stars like Aubu. Rumors say they are about to offer Allegri a sweet contract as well.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2017 16:59 Post subject: |
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I have very mixed feelings about Ederson. Never heard of him before this transfer window. Let's hope that he wont be another Bravo disaster.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2017 17:49 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Outrage as Saudi Arabia's football team SNUBS a minute's silence for London Bridge terror victims ahead of World Cup qualifier against Australia because 'it is not in keeping with our culture' |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4584294/Saudi-soccer-team-refuse-stand-London-victims.html
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jun 2017 18:57 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | some Saudi fans claimed it was not within Islamic culture |
Sadly, only shitty things come from that culture.
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Jun 2017 19:45 Post subject: |
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Ibrahimovic released by Man Utd
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10909594/released-pl-players
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Jun 2017 21:38 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Jun 2017 22:58 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 10th Jun 2017 08:41 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 10th Jun 2017 22:05 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Jun 2017 16:28 Post subject: |
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Where do they get the money?
Formerly known as iconized
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