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I think max 3 months. But all the problems with Ryzen will be fixed by then, it will be cheap and you get the AM4 socket which will last for next 2 generations.
Edit: Also there is no guarantee that the new intel line won't have any early problems.
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Mar 2017 22:31 Post subject: |
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But all the problems with Ryzen will be fixed by then, it will be cheap and you get the AM4 socket which will last for next 2 generations.
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nice glass sphere you have there. where have you bought it?
again: if you wanna play the waiting game -> you can do it always. if you need power now the decision should be clear, if you dont need it now the rules may have changed when you think again about buying a new system in a few months
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Mar 2017 22:37 Post subject: |
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I know about the waiting game.
But it seems that after the last few years of barely any advancement in the CPU scene, that thanks to AMD in the next few months there might be some relatively big changes coming up.
Similar to back then with the jump from 1-to-2 cores, and 2-to-4 cores.
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Mar 2017 22:46 Post subject: |
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imho that wont happen until the next generations arrive in 1+ year
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Mar 2017 23:24 Post subject: |
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| Janz wrote: | | imho that wont happen until the next generations arrive in 1+ year |
Seems you don't need a glass sphere.
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Mar 2017 23:29 Post subject: |
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i have one, its a good one, build it myself
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Mar 2017 23:39 Post subject: |
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Im also eager to change the 2500k, but I will wait some months until we can see the true potential of Zen and those Intel 6cores if they arrive on summer, then I'll decide on changing or keep waiting until Zen 2. Right now the 2500k is holding pretty decent on everything I do or play, so theres no hurry.
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2017 15:47 Post subject: |
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| Bob Barnsen wrote: | I know about the waiting game.
But it seems that after the last few years of barely any advancement in the CPU scene, that thanks to AMD in the next few months there might be some relatively big changes coming up.
Similar to back then with the jump from 1-to-2 cores, and 2-to-4 cores. |
You got your 7700k yet? If so... did it do the trick? Compared to the 2500k I mean. I'm still on the fence...
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Mar 2017 00:20 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2017 18:04 Post subject: |
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Intel to unveil Basin Falls, launch Coffee Lake ahead of schedule
| Quote: | Intel will unveil its Basin Falls platform, i.e. Skylake-X, Kaby Lake-X processors and X299 chipset, at Computex 2017 in Taipei during May 30-June 3 two months earlier than originally scheduled, and will bring forward the launch of Coffee Lake microarchitecture based on a 14nm process node from January 2018 originally to August 2017, to cope with increasing competition from AMD's Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 5 processors, according to Taiwan-based PC vendors.
The Basin Falls-based products are expected to be launched at the E3 gaming show in the US in June, with the official release at the end of the month.
The Skylake-X series has three 140W processors featuring 6-, 8- and 10-core architectures, while the Kaby Lake-X series has an 112W quad-core processor. In August, Intel will release a top-end 12-core Skylake-X processor.
Meanwhile, AMD is planning to announce its top-end 16-core Ryzen processor and X399 platform in the third quarter to compete for the gaming market.
As for the 14nm-based Coffee Lake-based processors, Intel will initially release several K-series Core i7/i5/i3 processors and its Z370 chipsets in August, and will release more CPUs as well as H370, B360 and H310 chipsets at the end of 2017 or early 2018. |
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20170419PD207.html
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2017 23:40 Post subject: |
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No desktop i5 ever had HT, they're just plain quadcores.
Notebook i5s are dualcores with HT.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2017 00:39 Post subject: |
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Someone here using Intel-CPUs?
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Oh good, guess we where lucky then. Does not matter to anyone!1!!
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2017 04:18 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | No desktop i5 ever had HT, they're just plain quadcores.
Notebook i5s are dualcores with HT. |
What difference does HT do?
Im curious to how the dual core i5 in my new macbook stacks up to my old 2500k, or are they too different for a meaningful comparison?
Also, i was under the impression that dual core was "out" or "old", do dual core cpu`s use significantly less power and that`s why they put them in notebooks or what?
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2017 10:54 Post subject: |
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HT, hyper threading, is a technology that creates two virtual cores from one real core, effectively giving the system the illusion of having 2 real threads instead of just one. Of course, the virtual core is not as efficient as ressources are shared, but gives a nice boost in applications that utilize the threads.
So dualcore with HT = 4 working threads.
The dualcore in your macbook will probably not be as fast as your old 2500K since 4 real cores are faster than 2 real cores + 2 virtual cores. The i5 in the macbook will not clock as high either, since it needs to be efficient. But some IPC improvements since then will still give it enough power for you to not notice a major difference.
Dualcores obviously use less power. But there are qudcores in notebooks aswell. These need to be binned especially for efficiency though and subsequently become quite expensive.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2017 12:54 Post subject: |
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I wouldn't say dual cores are obsolete, it depends on what you intend to run. Some heavy AAA games need a lot of processing power and take advantage of 4 cores but generally you are fine with a dual core. I mean, you get your value for the money they cost.
Two years ago I bought a rather cheap i3 4170 and I am very satisfied with its performance in games, emulators and chess computing. It is a dualcore with HT.
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| Posted: Sun, 14th May 2017 13:23 Post subject: |
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| Janz wrote: | cores are not that important for home use  |
lol 
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| Posted: Sun, 14th May 2017 22:18 Post subject: |
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actually thats just a design they (badly) copied from zalman, they used it ~20 years ago. ofc it doesnt work well on an 4,5ghz i7
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| Posted: Mon, 15th May 2017 00:03 Post subject: |
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He should invest in someone that knows how to focus. I could watch this at 240p without any loss in quality...
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