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Vulgarr




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Mar 2017 18:13    Post subject:
Did anyone actually get a beta invite? Despite the moba reference, I'm actually rather interested in this game.
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Mar 2017 18:14    Post subject:
^no
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Mar 2017 20:09    Post subject:
So they have remove unit collisions (units pass through each other like in Retardcraft 1/2). No sync-kills. It's a shit for the "competitive" retards. No attention to details. I rage quit after a few minutes. And performance is atrocious.
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Mar 2017 20:22    Post subject:
Vulgarr wrote:
Did anyone actually get a beta invite? Despite the moba reference, I'm actually rather interested in this game.



I got a beta invite yesterday. A steam code to download the beta client
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Mar 2017 20:39    Post subject:
Shoot us some of your thoughts when you've logged a few hours, please.
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Mar 2017 21:18    Post subject:
600mb update just now while i was searching for my first game. Sad


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 01:02    Post subject:
played for 2 hours... the game its bland and empty.
i would rather play dow1-2 than this.


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 01:22    Post subject:
@Leo & Guyver: Crying or Very sad Another one bites the dust, volume #346
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 01:28    Post subject:
im too tired to write something with sense in english... will explain tomorrow while im at the office. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 04:41    Post subject:
Played a bit now. Feels incredibly clunky. The whole time I was wondering why I wasn't playing DoW 1 instead. It's far superior to this. It feels like there is no soul or passion behind this. And it's basically a weak shell of the former games. The sounds are crap. Those assault marine chainsaws, that dreadnought etc. Nowhere near as good sounding as the original game. Nor do they feel like they have the same impact.

The gameplay is just a clunky DoW 1. The graphics aren't an upgrade at all. I even prefer dow 1. It's just all so incredibly boring looking. Even a Dreadnought which is my favourite unit. The gameplay is just the same or worse with an awful moba mechanic.

I did a few 2v2 matches aswel as 1v1. I see a ton of Orks. I HATE the core mechanic. It's just run to the enemy core with all units and kill it before you lose yours. Like in moba's you have a core.

I didn't feel like playing much after the first match already. Says enough tbh as a huge DoW fan.

I LOVED Soulstorm and all of DoW 1. I played DoW 2 aswel and enjoyed that too but less. This is a 100% no buy from me. Why they even tried making it is beyond me as it is not an improvement in any way.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 08:00    Post subject:
Meh, and another franchise went to crap.


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 08:53    Post subject:
I'd be more disappointed with all the negative feedback if the game didn't look like generic crap from the beginning Rolling Eyes
At least we got an awesome trailer out of it!!! Crying or Very sad (hopefully some more too)

40k games are cursed it seems.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 09:18    Post subject:
Famou wrote:
Played a bit now. Feels incredibly clunky. The whole time I was wondering why I wasn't playing DoW 1 instead. It's far superior to this. It feels like there is no soul or passion behind this. And it's basically a weak shell of the former games. The sounds are crap. Those assault marine chainsaws, that dreadnought etc. Nowhere near as good sounding as the original game. Nor do they feel like they have the same impact.

The gameplay is just a clunky DoW 1. The graphics aren't an upgrade at all. I even prefer dow 1. It's just all so incredibly boring looking. Even a Dreadnought which is my favourite unit. The gameplay is just the same or worse with an awful moba mechanic.

I did a few 2v2 matches aswel as 1v1. I see a ton of Orks. I HATE the core mechanic. It's just run to the enemy core with all units and kill it before you lose yours. Like in moba's you have a core.

I didn't feel like playing much after the first match already. Says enough tbh as a huge DoW fan.

I LOVED Soulstorm and all of DoW 1. I played DoW 2 aswel and enjoyed that too but less. This is a 100% no buy from me. Why they even tried making it is beyond me as it is not an improvement in any way.


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they are trying to make a "massive" game aka total war, but it's shit because it compares directly to Starcraft2 and this game... can't win on any front, even graphics.
the game punish you hard for losing units because the cost is the same on the old DoW franchise, but their lifespan? like 1/4.
jump-jet inside few eldar ranged units with 2 assault marine squads: they get shredded by a third unit and the other 2 NOT forced to go melee... i'm speechless.
the game awards you by choosing a blob of the same unit + few other specialized units like a scout/ranger sniper or some mechanized units like predator or dread. (i think the landspeeder is only used for harrassing the enemy listening post... got shredded by few eldars units ). it feels like years of sturdy space marines came to an end.
and before you ask it, no, balance patch can't improve it because this game is rotten to the core like the mandatory giant-elite unit for every match, no bunkers/turrets besides the listening posts giving a little comical relieve for scout units.
at least they got right the drop pod mechanic: every tech tier ( 3 total) you get 1 drop pod slot that you can fill with any unit you can produce; it has a cooldown of 200ish seconds and units take a little longer to build for the drop pod.


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 10:39    Post subject:
Thanks for the input so far. If you get more impressions from the beta if you play more, I'd ask that you share those as well.

I'm assuming you judge this game as its own thing, and not only comparing it vs DoW/DoW2. If this game isn't fun to play even if you imagine it wasn't called Dawn of War 3, there's no hope. I've never played LoL or DOTA, but I've seen my share of gameplay and never found it to look interesting.

Not exactly fueling the hype, I'd say.


What can really be done about this during the remaining 6 weeks; if some assets are placeholders, they can replace those for sure, they can also make tweaks here and there - but they have no time to reinvent the design or the flow of gameplay entirely based on beta feedback.

There's the possibility of more gameplay-modes, modes that might be more fun than what's showcased in the beta, but who knows at this point.


They are alienating the old fans (a smaller group, let's be honest)

and designing this towards the larger MOBA group (more paying customers)
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 15:38    Post subject:
Much like the iTard industry for a decade+ really..

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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 16:12    Post subject:
EternalBlueScreen wrote:
They are alienating the old fans (a smaller group, let's be honest)

and designing this towards the larger MOBA group (more paying customers)

you mean asking MOBA crowd to pay premium price for inferior game to the FEE 2p MOBAs???? sure that will end great
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EternalBlueScreen




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 17:04    Post subject:
To my knowledge many, not all, Moba regulars dump cash into their 'f2p' experiences through skins and other shit, so I dunno how that thought process works.

Some mobas can add cute little monsters and things, attracting grills and women, I'm not sure how DoW3 can tap into that while still staying within the theme of 40k.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 17:23    Post subject:
Easy, by selling army skins like it was done in the past.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 17:37    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
Easy, by selling army skins like it was done in the past.

didnt they confirmed it has army painter though?
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 17:53    Post subject:
It doesn't matter. The previous games had that as well, that didn't stop THQ/Relic to sell skins.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 18:36    Post subject:
but still premium priced game with moba elemts its not really that interesting to the moba dans


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2017 21:05    Post subject:
Don't see this game going anywhere. Just doesn't feel like a good game, if this didn't have the DoW name it wouldn't be sold at all. Im very forgiving with 40k games but this just isn't cutting it.

40k universe has so much potential. It basically sells itself. Yet they fuck every single game.

I bet they could have done a DoW remastered and just updated the graphics and it would have sold a lot.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2017 08:58    Post subject:
Just sounds like all these games are designed to monetise as much as possible, by attempting to cash in on the latest craze. Which still seems to be MOBA, although I'm pretty sure that isn't really the case now is it?

It's like I keep saying, right now the gaming industry is fucked as publishers just want to play as safe as they're being advised by beancounters. There really is no 'soul' in most of today's developed games, and it's noticeable.

DOW I was one of the finest strategy games of it's kind back in the day, and while they did still whore the crap of that game with DLC content, at least it was fairly meaningful DLC.

Now? Now it's just a case of 'minimum viable product' and DLC's to make double the money on base sales. It's a very sad and dark time for gaming.


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Mar 2017 02:07    Post subject:
Warhammer 40k Dawn of LOL...

Pains me to see how ppl can fuck up so bad when the foundation was so strong.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Mar 2017 02:13    Post subject:
We saw it coming a while ago..


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Mar 2017 10:04    Post subject:
At least we've washed clean of thinking this is an actual DoW sequel. Sad

It is Dawn of War 3, in title only. In title. Only. It is something else entirely with regards to design.

Maybe we can actually enjoy parts of this game now that we know SEGA Relic didn't even try to build on the two previous games?



Maybe. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Mar 2017 10:11    Post subject:
EternalBlueScreen wrote:

It is Dawn of War 3, in title only. In title. Only. It is something else entirely with regards to design.


This is modern gaming, take good franchise X and make it into the game currently selling the most copies.
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Apr 2017 17:40    Post subject:
Open Beta Registration
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The Dawn of War III Open Beta will run from 10am PST April 21st to 10am PST April 24th..

The beta will include a range of different maps, modes and other game content to try - click here for an overview of what's included vs. the full game.

https://www.dawnofwar.com/beta
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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Apr 2017 09:50    Post subject:
Closed beta test this weekend, friday to monday.
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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Apr 2017 09:56    Post subject:
Anyone got a spare key? Very Happy
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