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 Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2016 23:55 Post subject: |
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I liked the game.
The "ending" did it no favors though.
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2016 03:06 Post subject: |
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The game got better after the first act, but is this game a lesbian fantasy?
Estimated 90% of all characters are females who act in the most masculine way possible.
It really makes it hard to immerse yourself in the world, can't take it seriusly
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2016 03:49 Post subject: I have left. |
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vurt
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mtj
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2016 10:52 Post subject: |
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| Shoshomiga wrote: | | jungbas wrote: | The game got better after the first act, but is this game a lesbian fantasy?
Estimated 90% of all characters are females who act in the most masculine way possible.
It really makes it hard to immerse yourself in the world, can't take it seriusly |
WHY are you complain about this? Don't you know its 2016? |
Its a bit extreme even for 2016.
Ot maybe this is the new normal and am just out of the loop?
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vurt
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2016 10:56 Post subject: |
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| jungbas wrote: |
Where did you read that in the game?
Also its not only the rebels, but both kyros armies seem to be dominated by women. |
Haven't played it, like i said it was discussed earlier in the thread.
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2016 10:57 Post subject: |
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I'm done with act 1, it's a good game. I wouldn't call it innovative or boundary pushing, but it does what it does well. It's a 100% budget game though, I would've been pissed if I did spend more than 20 bucks on it. I'm enjoying it, but that's about it. I feel sad for all the people who undoubtedly pre-ordered this due to the Obsidian tag.
After PoE and this, I doubt I'll ever buy an Obsidian game again. PoE was the last time they got my money. I don't like the direction they're heading.
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2016 11:00 Post subject: |
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seems like the usual obsidian game  some love it , some hate it ... scores with a wide range
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2016 13:05 Post subject: |
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A new studio needs to be made.. A mix of Larian employees taking care of the engine, combat etc and Obsidian employees , supervised by CD Projekt Red, responsible for writing and shit
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2016 13:28 Post subject: |
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Supervised by CDPR? Get real... They made 3 games and the writing had its ups and downs in every game. I'd rather have Chris Avellone be the lead writer of such a studio and keep Brian Fargo as far as possible.
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2016 14:10 Post subject: |
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@Nodrim
Witcher's 3 writing(quests) is the best in the industry atm.
Avellone hasn't been really active for the past ~5 years + he did have his ups and downs too.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2016 15:35 Post subject: |
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Witcher 3 has like a dozen well-written quests at most, including both expansions. Most of it is mediocre filler. Mediocrity isn't worth mentioning unless you compare it to BioWare, Bethesda and other crap.
| jungbas wrote: | The game got better after the first act, but is this game a lesbian fantasy?
Estimated 90% of all characters are females who act in the most masculine way possible.
It really makes it hard to immerse yourself in the world, can't take it seriusly |
Obsidian is trying to tell you what true evil is since evil has obviously won in the game.
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2016 15:53 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2016 19:25 Post subject: |
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Finally got started with this, too early to really say anything about the game itself but the magic system is really neat - wish more games utilized custom spell creation, custom spells tend to be far more fun than default ones. Even as a mage I probably should've picked those talent options over the spell specializations since you can easily get the frost/shock ones at least early on.
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2016 23:52 Post subject: |
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| jungbas wrote: | | Its not only about the conquered army but Kyros forces as well |
This is a "law" that applies to everyone, including Kyros forces. There will be some exceptions, like Sirin being sent away since Kyros didn't want her around (she was considered dangerous) or the fatebinders who are sent to bring justice.
But overall, regardless of which faction they belong to, the norm in that world is for men to adventure and constantly move while women are told to stay in one area and be in charge of it.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2016 01:28 Post subject: |
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| Kanint wrote: | | jungbas wrote: | | Its not only about the conquered army but Kyros forces as well |
This is a "law" that applies to everyone, including Kyros forces. There will be some exceptions, like Sirin being sent away since Kyros didn't want her around (she was considered dangerous) or the fatebinders who are sent to bring justice.
But overall, regardless of which faction they belong to, the norm in that world is for men to adventure and constantly move while women are told to stay in one area and be in charge of it. |
Yep, that's what I'm understanding as well. We know that under Kyros' empire men and women are considered equal, and generally, it's always been part of the tradition among the Tiersmen (especially in the Younger Realms era) to control the seas and the "navy", leaving the women to guard outposts/lands. They're pretty damn tough, which makes sense logically speaking in such universe. 
The decision surely can be interpreted in many ways (and I always like to joke about it), since it's undeniably a sign of our times(tm). So far though, I'm finding the writing coherent, there's no sign of hidden agendas, or hilariously blatant attempts like it happened in Beamdog's Polygons Gate for instance. |
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2016 05:12 Post subject: |
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So bottom line, am I going to tut, roll my eyes and sigh after every scene involving angry, triggered non-male gendered beings? Or could I actually enjoy it as a game, and not a privilege checker?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2016 07:15 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: | | So far though, I'm finding the writing coherent, there's no sign of hidden agendas, or hilariously blatant attempts like it happened in Beamdog's Polygons Gate for instance. |
| Kaltern wrote: | | So bottom line, am I going to tut, roll my eyes and sigh after every scene involving angry, triggered non-male gendered beings? Or could I actually enjoy it as a game, and not a privilege checker? |
Yep, i didn't encounter any obvious SJW crap neither so far.
And i doubt there would be any later on. Maybe there are actually some, but then more to make fun of the theme, not to support it.
I mean just look at the naughty things Verse constantly says.
Though it still is somewhat strange that so many women are in high military positions and often are your enemies (or your companions).
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2016 14:14 Post subject: |
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The studio went through some rough times so they streamlined a bit the games to appeal to a wider audience, I guess that's better than no studio at all. But they are getting back on their feet so the quality should improve with the upcoming titles. Obsidian also lost the talent of Avellone and got Josh Sawyer as game director and he is known for focusing on things that are not so relevant for a singleplayer RPG.
Everyone streamlines, take a look at CDPR, but the communities of old school gamers and RPG enthusiasts seem to have higher expectations from Obsidian than any other studio, that's why there is a lot of disappointment related to features that aren't bad at all.
It might be the trend. These RPGs are part of a niche category, so those willing to play them expect the best or they quit. That's what I think, otherwise it's harder to explain why the horrible combat of TW3 didn't turn off many players, but the gimmicky and slightly annoying combat of Pillars did.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2016 14:19 Post subject: |
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I don't mind streamlining, this game has much bigger problems. Combat, graphical quality, very small maps, overall budget game feeling etc. It just feels like Obsidian goes backwards instead of forwards. I expected a lot from PoE since I loved Obsidian doing their own thing. This game wasn't even on my radar, so expectations were very low, but it's still disappointing me.
It's fun though.
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