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ixigia
[Moderator] Consigliere
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Location: Italy
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 Posted: Fri, 21st Oct 2016 23:38 Post subject: |
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| Kaltern wrote: | I've been playing it, and yes, it's possibly the best Civ yet - maybe even better than 1 and 2 (IMO).
But... £50?? I'm sorry, but I think this is just too high. When did PC games suddenly get so expensive (I expect it from EA because they're robbing cunts)? I don't mind paying for a great game, but £50 makes me choke a little. Am I alone here? |
You're definitely not alone Kaltern.  On one hand the game offers much more value for the money than the various short scriptmatics around that cost the same, but on the other one, £50 is such an absolutely insane price that I just cannot fathom.
It's also a matter of principle for me. Especially since there will surely be 3-4 expansions down the way (no matter what they say) and the traditional cheaper GOTY repackage available after some months, followed by a Gold one and finally the Complete Platinum. 
The Civ games also suffer deflation more than others, generally it's good for those who wait. So yeah, ISOdemo party now, and legit full game bought during future sales, so that they get rewarded..only reasonably! |
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 00:46 Post subject: |
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| Clevesa wrote: |
The AI, unfortunately, is horrible. Unless they start with serious bonuses, they are completely useless. Two games in a row, I've always 2 eras ahead of them and I'm not a good player.
I hope this gets fixed, since it really ruins things for me. Apart from that, best Civ I've played. |
What difficulty and game speed?
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Morphineus
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Location: Sweden
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 01:21 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | Please someone comment about AI  As an SP player, the AI wasn't good in Civ 5.
Official price is indeed high, 60 euros ffs. I guess a key for 47 IS cheap. Well FU. |
Get isodemo? That way you can see the A.I. for yourself and judge if it is worth the money. Haven't played yet so can't comment on how it is. |
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dethy
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Location: Conclave of Shadows
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 03:43 Post subject: |
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Damn, you can use sql to modify game. I just did this:
UPDATE Technologies SET Cost = Cost*6;
UPDATE Civics SET Cost = Cost*3;
Makes ages last longer
My specs:
Ryzen 5950x @ boosting 5ghz, Gigabyte x570 Aorus Master, 128gb G.Skill Trident Neo pc3600 ram, nVidia RTX 5080, SoundBlasterX G6, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 1TB and Hynix m.2 1TB storage SSD. Custom watercooling loop.
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Famou
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Location: Amsterdam
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 03:59 Post subject: |
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I am new to civ and I just started a game on Deity. I was just building and after a few rounds Germany which is much bigger declared war. I tought it was going to be rough but I started making military units and especially seka horse archers or what their name is and now I took a big city of germany and have just been steamrolling two factions who declared war.
I thought I took the hardest difficulty but this seems way to easy.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 04:34 Post subject: |
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Hmmm that sounds indeed worrying, and not because you're new to Civ but because if you allow a typically expansionist neighbor to declare war to you on Deity (even on Immortal) when their army clearly outclasses yours it shouldn't be that easy to just "keep producing units" and then even take their city. In fact, unless the player is very experienced that leads many times to being swept off the map, and experienced players rarely get themselves in that situation to begin with, they make sure to have a strong enough military early on. Maybe the "bad warring AI" concerns on the forums are true after all, hopefully they fix that with a patch.
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dethy
Posts: 3175
Location: Conclave of Shadows
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 05:18 Post subject: |
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| scaramonga wrote: | Barbs will send scout to your city, then go back and report to camp, then all hell will break loose if you let it go unnoticed  |
While barbs are annoying, they're not too difficult to deal with when you get your first govt civic that allows for +5 strength fighting barbs.
I'm 150 turns in with my modified game, fucking japan just declared war on me and they're bringing 30+ warriors. It sure as shit doesn't help their units fight full strength when damaged. I have 6 units holding of warriors and a few slingers behind them. This is like that 300 movie lol.
Not sure about difficulty above posters are playing, but AI seems to handle units pretty well. They hit me, get damaged, pull out wounded and bring in fresh ones.
I have a feeling I lost this game. I'll prioritize army before expanding too much.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 05:38 Post subject: |
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I won several games on Emperor in Civ 5 (Scientific, Cultural and Diplomacy. I don't like going for Domination), never got to try above that. Here I started playing on prince to get the basics but I plan to keep making my way up back to Emperor and hopefully with many more hours than I invested on Civ 5 ( I was a late buyer 3 years after release) maybe I can keep climbing towards Deity, though I got a feeling there's more bugs on release than we think that are making the AI easier than it should be. We'll have to be patient and see as the patches start rolling.
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LuckyStrike
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Location: Somewhere in the Portuguese Colonial Empire
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 06:26 Post subject: |
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| Famou wrote: | I am new to civ and I just started a game on Deity. I was just building and after a few rounds Germany which is much bigger declared war. I tought it was going to be rough but I started making military units and especially seka horse archers or what their name is and now I took a big city of germany and have just been steamrolling two factions who declared war.
I thought I took the hardest difficulty but this seems way to easy. |
Maybe its reversed, chieftain being the hardest and deity the easiest?
I know i tried taking a city very early ingame, in prince, to try and see if the rush/blitzk worked and found it quite hard going with the same tech/era level (that means with clubs and stones), as the city would heal almost instantly between turns 
| Epsilon wrote: | | Meanwhile the people of that generation will call those guys relics, and not move with the times when everything is auto fucking. |
| EyePatchLives wrote: | | Press X to tame beasts. YOU ARE DA BEASTMASTER!!! |
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-=Cartoon=-
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 07:06 Post subject: |
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I had a big ass giant war vs Greece, was pretty balanced.
It seems there is no way to attach units to traders ?
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 10:45 Post subject: |
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Game is finally growing on me after playing some more hours. My game on King mode ended a bit abruptly tho..... turn 152 or something and i got beaten by a cultural victory
I have no idea what happened
Empty again
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 11:15 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 11:55 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | | Clevesa wrote: |
The AI, unfortunately, is horrible. Unless they start with serious bonuses, they are completely useless. Two games in a row, I've always 2 eras ahead of them and I'm not a good player.
I hope this gets fixed, since it really ruins things for me. Apart from that, best Civ I've played. |
What difficulty and game speed? |
King and normal.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 12:34 Post subject: |
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On prince diff. and normal speed i got my ass kicked cause the barbarians. Then cause of sneak attack of my AI friend. 3rd time i am killing them, only two Ai left, 1 of them has more score than me.
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Famou
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Location: Amsterdam
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 12:36 Post subject: |
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I am playing on Deity and the double speed. My first game ever of Civ and I literally steamroll everything from barbarians to huge cities just by mostly producing horse archers and knights on horses. I had two factions declare war almost immediatly and they are on either side of my towns but I still win easily fighting two fronts. I am also behind on era's but that doesn't seem to be a problem. I just took Germanies cities and he wants badly to make peace a few times now.
If the game is like this I am going to be bored very quickly.
I didn't change any settings besides the difficulty and game speed. Is it because of the double speed?
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VonMisk
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Location: Hatredland
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 14:09 Post subject: |
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The AI seems to be cheating. When faced with possibility of loosing a city he magically spawns units (happened once) or spawns barbarians near your least defended town (happened twice) not just a barb village but 3 advanced units for barbarians.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 14:20 Post subject: |
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^ Dunno about the barbs, may just be a coincidence, but the civ unit spawn could just be them using gold to buy them directly.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 14:23 Post subject: |
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I've lost two games to being declared war on while my army was miniscule. This was on prince difficulty. I've never lost a game in Civ 5, ever. This time around, the AI brings enough units to actually take a city. They always underestimated cities in Civ 5.
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kumkss
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dethy
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 15:09 Post subject: |
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AI loves to park armies near your border.
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