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LuckyStrike
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Killed in the womb. 
| Epsilon wrote: | | Meanwhile the people of that generation will call those guys relics, and not move with the times when everything is auto fucking. |
| EyePatchLives wrote: | | Press X to tame beasts. YOU ARE DA BEASTMASTER!!! |
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2016 22:52 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Which means a core aspect of Cyberpunk 2077 will be combat with other players who can easily drop in and out of a given player's world |
Cyber Souls 
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2016 23:29 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2016 23:32 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2016 23:37 Post subject: |
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jackbomb
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 00:06 Post subject: |
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My biggest problem is how is this going to affect modding? Can I at least make it private only so I can just play with friends, and no need of getting accused of cheating, etc.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 00:27 Post subject: |
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Well, I guess if the single player RPG is rolling back into a MMORPG at the end of the installation, we are all funking then.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 08:01 Post subject: |
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Dark spirit KurwaGeralt69 has invaded!
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 08:49 Post subject: |
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They're aiming for an illusion of a living city and the RIGHT implementation of something like this could help in this regard. I did love what Techland did in Dying Light for example. It is a huge gamble though, since even a small mistake could potentially ruin the immerssion - and the game.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 09:21 Post subject: |
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Hrm, jumping onboard the microtransactions bandwagon I wonder?
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 10:10 Post subject: |
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Completely killed the hype for me as well.
No good ever came of these hybrid "drop in anytime" multiplayer models. The only good implementation is Dark Souls, hope they at least go with something like that.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 10:47 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 11:33 Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's true. They've just applied for a grant, nothing more.
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 11:49 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | All of these replies, yet the article doesn't even state (nor does CDPR, in any way) that this is for Cyberpunk
Calm your tits. |
Well, the very title of the article states it, and the article itself too. Several times even. E.g:
"The other feature, which CD Projekt calls "Seamless Multiplayer," plans to be "a complex technology for making unique multiplayer gameplay mechanics, including the ability to search out for opponents, manage game session, replicate objects, as well as support for different game modes along with a unique set of dedicated tools." Which means a core aspect of Cyberpunk 2077 will be combat with other players "
..or do you mean the polish article, care to give a translation of it, if so?
I guess i don't mind the MP in e.g Dark Souls.. but i wish time and effort is spent elsewhere.
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 12:23 Post subject: |
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...well, it's a conclusion of a translation from Polish. If it was already concluded, 2 years ago even, then there's no need to think it's false or a bad translation..
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 12:26 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 12:58 Post subject: |
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That bit about not filing this grant for a specific title was written about the other technology (City Creation). But I agree, there's really nothing in this. The source - translated in english, btw - doesn't say anything about any of it being connected to Cyberpunk, other than the fact that it's a game they're currently working on. It's a technology they want to develop, that's all. How, when and what for will it be used remains to be seen.
And by pointing out it's the author's conclusion I meant to say we really don't know anything about how the tech could be used and all that stuff about combat with other players being a prominent part of the game is taken completely out of somone's ass.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 13:15 Post subject: |
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-13-cd-projekt-red-says-cyberpunk-2077-will-have-multiplayer
DATE: 2013
 SINGLE-PLAYER WITH MULTIPLAYER FEATURES
"It will be a story-based RPG experience with amazing single-player playthroughs, but we're going to add multiplayer features," CDPR managing director Adam Badowski told me.
NOT ONLY THE NIGHT CITY ENVIRONMENT
Badowski told me that Cyberpunk 2077, like The Witcher 3, will also be an open world game - albeit in a very different setting. "The first and most important environment for Cyberpunk is the city, obviously," he said. "But not only the city: you can expect some more environments in the Cyberpunk game. We want to start in the Night City, which is cool. And yes it will be an open world game as well."
NO PRE-DEFINED PROTAGONIST LIKE GERALT OR AN "ADAM JENSEN", CHARACTER CLASSES
Unlike The Witcher 3, however, Cyberpunk 2077 won't revolve around a pre-defined hero. This means there will be more freedom to the open world, to who you are and to what you can do. In The Witcher 3, for example, hero Geralt can't massacre civilians because that wouldn't adhere to The Witcher fiction. "We'll have different situation in Cyberpunk," said Badowski. "Cyberpunk will have different character classes."
Having different character classes and no pre-defined hero loosens constraints on multiplayer, too. When I asked Badowski if there would ever be a Witcher MMO, he dismissed the idea with a chuckle. Simply, it wouldn't make fiction-sense to have 10 white-haired Geralts running around.
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That last bit "When I asked Badowski if there would ever be a Witcher MMO, he dismissed the idea with a chuckle. Simply, it wouldn't make fiction-sense to have 10 white-haired Geralts running around."
It wouldn't make fiction-sense to have Geralts running around but I can only assume that it makes more sense for Cyberpunk 2077 which won't have a pre-defined main character to allow more players without it. This old article from 2013 explains the news in 2016 about the multiplayer, but I hope it won't be 'massively' multiplayer; OPTIONAL multiplayer with like 1-4 players able to work as a team sounds like more fun than the MMO approach.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 13:58 Post subject: |
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I think it's just going to have a few optional multiplayer elements as has become more-or-less the norm in recent years. If it's done correctly, it shouldn't impact the single-player experience.
Edit: Thanks for digging up the old interview which says that there won't be a predefined protagonist. I don't like predefined protagonists and had forgotten they promised this.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 14:06 Post subject: |
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On potential classes; this lists a few and mentions that expansions have widened the options beyond these.
http://cyberpunk.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Roles
ROLES=CLASSES
Cop
Corporate
Crystaljock
Fixer
Max Tac Agent
Media
Netrunner
Nomad
Panzerboy
Rockerboy
Solo
Techie
... Interesting, I guess. Of course doesn't mean CP2077 will have any of these. A choice of class means we won't be able to become -everything- with one character. It means we'll have a role and abilities set by our choice of class. If we want to play differently, we'll have to make a new character, possibly. Like a second-playthrough doing things the hacker way not the assassin way.
I'm guessing classes will have expert areas, but basic stuff like just firing a normal pistol - anyone can do. Maybe a more combat oriented class will do more damage; depending on whether this is an RNG dice-roll deal, or actually influenced by us in that if we can aim at the head all the time we'll do more damage; numbers v player skill or something in-between that for damage calculation most probably.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2016 14:08 Post subject: |
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The single player with multiplayer components sounds like Dark Souls. Which is fucking awesome. While at it, if there should be close combat, please learn from Dark Souls. People might stop to cite the book whenever I complain about the randomness in the Witchers fighting, which makes timed attacks impossible and all fights random in their outcome and totally dependent on your gear instead of your personal capabilities 
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jackbomb
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