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Posted: Sat, 24th Sep 2016 20:58 Post subject: CPU question: i7-6700K or i7-6800K or wait for Zen? |
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The question is in the title.
German prices:
i7-6700K 325 €
i7-6800K 432 €
AMD Zen ??? €
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Posted: Sat, 24th Sep 2016 21:11 Post subject: |
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I wait for Kaby.
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Posted: Sat, 24th Sep 2016 21:17 Post subject: |
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I'm starting to think AMD Zen is just a myth.
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Posted: Sat, 24th Sep 2016 21:19 Post subject: |
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Wait for Zen you unbeliever!
(I'm also waiting for Zen to upgrade my 3570K)
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Posted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 09:27 Post subject: |
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I would wait for zen how it performs in real world without AMD own tests, kaby lake seems to be failure, not worth to wait.
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Posted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 10:59 Post subject: |
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Bob Barnsen wrote: | I wait for Kaby. |
+1
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Posted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 11:10 Post subject: I have left. |
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Posted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 13:01 Post subject: |
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its the same always -> if you need more power NOW buy a new cpu NOW. if you dont really need it at all -> wait for kaby
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Posted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 18:38 Post subject: |
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kaby lake so you can play cs:go? 
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Posted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 22:21 Post subject: |
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In that case X99 platfrom should be your choice at this moment.
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Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2016 12:24 Post subject: |
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Yeah also looking for more cores here.. hopefully Zen will deliver good single core performance.
I have a 3570k@4.2Ghz and it's holding back my gtx1080 quite a bit and prevents me from supersampling in VR. The CPU can't handle it.
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Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2016 19:38 Post subject: |
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couleur wrote: | Wait for Zen you unbeliever! | What the hell.. wait 2 years ++ for a company that always lagged behind and has failed me with every CPU and GPU generation for the past 15 years ? Sounds crazy
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Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2016 20:15 Post subject: |
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wait for it!
edit: Well of course I dont trust AMD to finally deliver on the CPU front. But there is a chance. And since my 3570K is still good enough for everything I do, I can just sit back and see how it develops. In case it turns out a turd, well intel procs will not have suddenly vanished by then. Just get the next best intel core iteration and be done with it. I'd be surprised if it was any different with Paxsalis 8-threaded i7-2600. Maybe a bit old, not the best min FPS but still very much an ok CPU.
But of course if you absolutely need something new today. By all means, buy Skylake. Kabylake is not going to be that much better except maybe its power management and its integrated GPU, but both those things dont matter for Desktop ayway.
IMO waiting for kabylake is useless, since its very much predictable how boring that upgrade will be. Waiting for Zen is actually a bit exciting.
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Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2016 21:06 Post subject: |
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Its only a bit exciting though.
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