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 Posted: Fri, 16th Sep 2016 09:46 Post subject: Need advice between two laptops... |
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So my relative wants a new laptop, gave me a bunch of shitty options to choose from. I can build a great desktop computer for great value vs performance but when it comes to laptops I don't know a one fucking thing about it, the price they're looking for is maximum:
€576 / $647
So in my effort to find something that isn't total trash I found these two:
HP Pavilion 15-ac133no - €576 / $647: http://support.hp.com/id-en/document/c04922716
Specs:
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T8S10EA
Product name
HP Notebook - 15-ac133no (ENERGY STAR)
Microprocessor
Intel® Core™ i5-6200U with Intel® HD Graphics 520 (2.3 GHz, up to 2.8 GHz, 3 MB cache, 2 cores)
Memory, standard
8 GB DDR3L SDRAM (1 x 8 GB)
Video Graphics
AMD Radeon R5 M330 Graphics (2 GB DDR3 dedicated)
Hard Drive
1 TB 5400 rpm SATA
Optical drive
SuperMulti DVD burner
Display
39.6 cm (15.6") diagonal HD BrightView WLED-backlit (1366 x 768)
Keyboard
Full-size island-style keyboard with integrated numeric keypad
Pointing device
Touchpad with multi-touch gesture support
Wireless Connectivity
802.11b/g/n (1x1) and Bluetooth® 4.0 combo (Miracast compatible)
Network interface
Integrated 10/100 BASE-T Ethernet LAN
Expansion slots
1 multi-format SD media card reader
External Ports
1 HDMI; 1 headphone/microphone combo; 2 USB 2.0; 1 USB 3.0; 1 RJ-45
Minimum dimensions (W x D x H)
38.43 x 25.46 x 2.43 cm
Weight
2.19 kg
Power supply type
65 W AC power adapter
Battery type
4-cell, 41 Wh Li-ion
Webcam
HP TrueVision HD Webcam (front-facing) with integrated digital microphone
Audio features
DTS Studio Sound™ with 2 speakers |
Acer Aspire E5 573G-51RC - $589 / €524: http://www.acer.com/datasheets/2016/4876/E5-573G/NX.MVMED.114.html
Specs: | Spoiler: | Processor & Chipset
Processor Manufacturer Intel®
Processor Type Core™ i5
Processor Model i5-4200U
Processor Speed 1.60 GHz
Maximum Turbo Speed 2.60 GHz
Processor Core Dual-core (2 Core™)
Cache 3 MB
Direct Media Interface 5 GT/s
64-bit Processing Yes
Hyper-Threading Yes
Memory
Standard Memory 8 GB
Maximum Memory 16 GB
Memory Technology DDR3L SDRAM
Number of Total Memory Slots 2
Memory Card Reader Yes
Memory Card Supported SD
Storage
Solid State Drive Capacity 256 GB
Solid State Drive Interface Serial ATA/600
Optical Drive Type No
Display & Graphics
Screen Size 39.6 cm (15.6")
Display Screen Type Active Matrix TFT Colour LCD
Aspect Ratio 16:9
Screen Mode HD
Screen Resolution 1366 x 768
Backlight Technology LED
HDCP Supported Yes
Graphics Controller Manufacturer NVIDIA
Graphics Controller Model GeForce 920M
Graphics Memory Capacity Up to 2 GB
Graphics Memory Accessibility Dedicated
TV Card No
Network & Communication
Wireless LAN Yes
Wireless LAN Manufacturer Qualcomm Atheros
Wireless LAN Model NFA435
Wireless LAN Standard IEEE 802.11ac
Ethernet Technology Gigabit Ethernet
Bluetooth Yes
Built-in Devices
Front Camera/Webcam Yes
Microphone Yes
Finger Print Reader No
Speakers Yes
Interfaces/Ports
HDMI Yes
Total Number of USB Ports 3
Number of USB 2.0 Ports 1
Number of USB 3.0 Ports 2
VGA Yes
Network (RJ-45) Yes
Software
Operating System Platform Windows
Operating System Windows 10 Home
Operating System Architecture 64-bit
Input Devices
Keyboard Yes
Pointing Device Type TouchPad
TouchPad Features Multi-touch Gesture
Battery Information
Number of Cells 4-cell
Battery Chemistry Lithium Ion (Li-Ion)
Battery Capacity 2520 mAh
Power Description
Maximum Power Supply Wattage 65 W
Physical Characteristics
Height (Front) 24.90 mm
Height (Rear) 29.20 mm
Height 29.2 mm
Width 381.6 mm
Depth 256 mm
Weight (Approximate) 2.40 kg |
Now in my brain the Acer is the better choice because it has an SSD (which also happens to be 256gb) and it's also cheaper (due to being a demo example, according to the store at least)... The HP one has a better and newer CPU though. Both are 15 inch (which is what they want).
I've looked at what's available, but I don't really know how to compare shitty vs shitty here.  Both these two laptops have dedicated graphics cards but maybe it's better to go for an integrated Intel HD at this price point?
I don't know, help please, it's driving me up the wall trying to min max this crap. :'(
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Sep 2016 15:49 Post subject: I have left. |
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Sep 2016 16:09 Post subject: |
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https://one.de/shop/product_info.php?products_id=15433
15.6 " / 39.62 cm (1920 x 1080) Acer ComfyView™ Display
Intel® Core™ i5-4210U (2 x 1.70 GHz / 2.70 GHz)
8 GB DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
1 TB HDD
NVIDIA® GeForce® 940M 2 GB GDDR3
449,99€
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https://one.de/shop/product_info.php?products_id=15444
17.3 " / 43.94 cm (1920 x 1080) TFT Display
Intel® Core™ i5-7200U (2 x 2.50 GHz / 3.10 GHz)
8 GB DDR4 SDRAM 2133 MHz
500 GB HDD
NVIDIA® GeForce 940MX 2 GB GDDR5
579,99€
The 940M and especially the 940MX (with GDDR 5) shit on the other notebooks you posted. Obviously the second one is a fucking huge thing at 17.3"
You will not find a notebook with an IPS display at this price point of course, but you don't have to stick to some intel graphics shit with sub full-hd resolution either. Also the examples I found are with normal HDDs, but you can most likely find similar configurations with 500GB HDD-> 128GB SSD and 1000GB HDD -> 256GB SSD.
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Sep 2016 16:14 Post subject: |
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look out for new the kaby lake notebooks and for one without those shitty 940M(X) cards. they are useless, the igpu is almost as powerful as them and for playing games both are shit
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Sep 2016 16:19 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Sep 2016 16:23 Post subject: |
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| Janz wrote: | | look out for new the kaby lake notebooks and for one without those shitty 940M(X) cards. they are useless, the igpu is almost as powerful as them and for playing games both are shit |
Yeah, look out for one with the newest processor generation, some dual titan xp like mobile gpu and preferably amoled 200hz display. Also order me a fucking whopper menu and a brand new gold plated Ferrari 458 from the spare money that you'll have after buying that notebook with <573€  |
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Sep 2016 16:33 Post subject: |
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new laptops with kaby lake, 1tb hdd + 250gb ssd as well as a shady 940mx are in the range of 8xx euros and still not available. prices will drop soon and they will be models without expensive extensions around 550-600 bucks
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Sep 2016 16:36 Post subject: |
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Yeah I didn't see that he had the option to wait some months and the options I posted are 450€ and 580€, so well within his current budget 
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Sep 2016 16:50 Post subject: |
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Do they even play games on it?
Back when I needed a laptop for work I always bought it with the mindset of: Ooh I might be able to play some during travelling. Well... like usual I ended up just working and studying on the damn thing and do most other things on a comfortable desktop.
So... what's the function of this laptop?
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Sep 2016 23:07 Post subject: |
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